4th Turning: NOW the crisis phase has begun

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The problem with models is when people come to conclusions about reality based on a model rather than adjusting the model to match a changing reality.
This is the case with the so-called “4th Turning” model, which uses 80 year cycles to explain global events.
According to the 80 year model, we should just be coming out of a crisis phase but as far back as 2018 this model was not describing what I personally saw ahead of us. I saw we had only had a few minor crises and our solutions to this as a nation and planet had only been band aids, not solving the root of the problems.
COVID was just a dress rehearsal that showed us where cracks in society were and how events would unwind during the real crisis.
COVID was a warning. It gave us a kind of punch list of things to fix or adapt in our personal lives for the next crisis. The evergreen joke is about toilet paper but the serious reality is to be prepared for shortages in even basic necessities.
This week the stock market is in a nose dive and there are no adults in the room on Pensyvania Avenue. The retards have taken control of any kind of possible response. The upcoming crisis phase has been set in motion and nothing in our existing tool box will fix it because; first, all the tools we have are designed to fix the last cycles crises and second, even those tools are under lockdown by MAGA. It will be two years before there is even any potential for any kind of legislative challenge and four years before any respobsible solutions have the posdibility to be implemented.
When the last financial crisis hit In 2008 we only had a short period of time before a new congress and chief executive took action to reverse the crisis. What followed was a period of several years of corporate bankruptcies and layoffs. This time we can expect that period to last up to a decade rather than just a couple years in the best case and multiple decades if humanity takes longer to wake up. No natural born American who is still alive has experienced economic turmoil like what is on the horizon.
Yet all this was inevitable.
Humanity needs to discover alternatives to the captalism vs socialism debate.
Humanity needs to realize technology is only a tool, not any kind of new life. AI is aptly named artificial, not actual intelligence. Life and living are what one does offline, in the physical world in a biological body - not in a dystopian techno feudal online artificial life.
Humanity needs to learn that consumption is only healthy up to a point necessary to sustain life. After that point, consumption is poison. Consumption of artificial food and artificial entertainment leads to poisoning of the body and spirit, respectively. Watching others live according to a predetermined and formulaic script on a screen is not life.
Corporations are not humans and should not have rights that supercede himan life. The corporation needs to be recognized as an enemy to life and has goals directly in opposition to living a good healthy life.

These are a few lessons humanity needs to learn before we will see an end to this upciming crisis phase.

It might be interesting to see what lessons others think humanity needs to learn to rise out of the crisis, particularly on the undividual scale - because it will be important to find individual solutions first while the large global solutions take decades for the powers that be to figure out and implement

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Humanity needs to discover alternatives to the capitalism vs socialism debate, I most certainly agree.
Here’s a Substack post that’s opened a new thought discussion, ready for your strong attack and criticism.

Capitalism has run it’s course in advancing humanity. Elon Musk is a name that generates lot’s of energy around money and power. In the old 3D Matrix where money and power ruled, the primary means of compensation was capital. Here’s an idea on a 5D upgrade.

The accumulation of capital manifests a predatory mind set. I.E Google buying up YouTube and Facebook buying Instagram, Walmart undermining local merchants, Amazon the small ecommerce entrepreneur, Citibank - Bank of America - Chase overtaking the local community banks. This 3D Matrix is dead or dying to the 5D perspective.

With pure capitalism money accumulation becomes a weapon much more powerful than any bomb. Just look at what’s unraveling in Washington right now with Elon Musk and DOGE. No matter where we stand on USAID, it’s a window into how piling up capital can dim our collective 5D glow. Here’s a fact check question for clarity.

Fact check: Does money accumulation equal power and control?

We all know money is power. That “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely” … this is a long tested, tried and true algorithm on corruptive effectives. Here’s a 5D perception upgrade to start a bigger conversation.

We’re very early-on in making this observation, but not alone in suggesting two additional market forces be added as a 5D innovation.

The new 5D concept is “Conscious Cooperative Capitalism”. Consciousness and cooperation are the two spiritual components needed for a 5D upgrade. Let me explain.

First, the most important and consistent market force for success in any marketplace is consumption. We all consume and we’re all contributing equally to this force in the marketplace. We contribute our means to satisfy our desires into the marketplace. For that participation as consumers we are equally assigned compensation, because consumption drives the marketplace.

This idea of a citizenry dividend is not new or unique but it’s now resonating with a 5D clarity of efficiency. There are no taxes or government subsidies to manage. The 5D system distributes a dividend to pay you for your consuming contribution to the marketplace. As the collective market advances a 10-20% citizen consumption dividend is returned directly to the individual citizens to fund more marketplace consumption.

In the the new 5D marketplace we all cooperate and collaborate to exchange our capital means to satisfy our personal desires. With this Citizen dividend everyone now has means to participate. Meaning we can barter and trade to build personal accumulation of capital based on our desires and determination beyond just the consuming level.

This offers the brightest and most capable citizens to accumulate additional capital from the marketplace if that’s their desire. In the new 5D world all Citizenry services are supported by the individual citizens, who all now have means in the open marketplace to compete to deliver such services.

This new 5D perception makes everything in the system free from control and monopolization, and is improved by our collective 5D competence. In Conscious Cooperative Capitalism we let the workers decide where they want to contribute efforts to earn and grow personal profits from the system by their own merit.

This system eliminates the need for taxes or tithes, which only create bureaucracy and/or controversy. Now everyone can work for everyone, no restrictions or regulations just conscious cooperation. No more titles, degrees or certifications required, just competence in getting the job done. We consciously cooperate with the collective competence of 5D perception so the marketplace regulates itself.

Just my ideas ready for the heat of scrutiny or other 5D contributions to build on these ideas.

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Note: “You” below is used in the plural meaning, not singular

I agree and also I think we need to revalue types of capital and what “capital” means other than land and money. As long as people see Capital as only money and property, the disease will continue to progress.

Here are other types of capital that I think you will agree can provide much greater happiness and quality of life, or indeed “power”

  • Social Capital. How much support can you call in from family, friends, neighbors during a crisis or to meet day to day needs. Does everyone need their own house with outrageious mortgage and every adult family member their own car with a $600 - $1,000 car payment? What skills is it necessary to cultivate in order to accumulate social capital? When you are sick or old, will you need expensive hospital care from strangers costing exhorbitant amounts of money? If you lose your primary source of income or other financial setback common in the world today, do you have anyone to fall back on for assistance?
  • “Spiritual” Capital, though this can be named various things. To what degree is one spiritually “sick” and addicted to whatever the world wants to foist onto you? Men like Elon Musk and Trump are small, weak, petty men at their core with a completely undeveloped “spirituality”. This causes them to want to exert power over others and they are able to gather behind them equally weak people (often men) and lead them down various spiritually debilitating “rabbit holes”. At their core, these men are consumed with facing their own deeply rooted feelings of self doubt, unworthiess and self hatred.
  • “Capability” Capital. How capable are you without money? If your sink clogs on Thanksgiving, do you need to fork out $600 to a “real man” (lol) or can you DIY the repair and save that $600 for something else? In areas of food, transportation, home, interpersonal relations, education and personal development; to what degree do you need to pay others increasingly outrageous sums of money for these things, and in turn does this reliance on paying others for your basic need force you into wage slavery?
  • “Spotting BS” Capital. This is perhaps a combination of other capital described above, but is perhaps the most important. To what degree can you be sold a sack of crap and think you are smarter for doing so? This can be in the area of physical items, politics, spirituality, intellectually pretentious nonsense, fake friendships, fake love interests, scams, etc etc. These are often more easily “sold” to those who are “needy” from a lacking of different types of “Capital”, above. The more needy a “mark” is, the easier it is to “sell” them a load of BS.
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Thanks @raybennett nice comment with a lot of insights; also still resonating in the dark judgments of 3D fear.

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Its only a roadmap. People do die. Sinks clog up. Emegencies happen. People want to sell you worthless junk at high prices.

If Ignoring realities is 5D then that is likely why Im not closer to my local 5D communities. They seem to be in two categories: those with trust funds who dont have financial worries at all and those who are in constant crisis. Believe me - i literally have dozens of friends in those communities. They are nice people and i like them. But I dont need the drama so much to meet them more than casually.

My three points are perhaps for the variety of 5D seekers who dont have trust funds and dont want their spiritual journey to be so money- centric

  • Build useful and functional friendships
  • Build your own capabilities in a variety of useful areas
  • Dont fall for scams, including the spiritual variety

Funny thing about fear, though: I notice fear very strong in these communities, just stronger and in different areas than the mainstream. For example, the fear of vaccines even to the point of fearing contact with vaccinated people.

Fear isnt something to be avoided. Fear is to be recognized, understood and accepted. Denial of fear isnt spiritual, its delusional.
Once understood and accepted, fear can morph into something useful, like determination or a plan of action.
What i am presenting is more of a plan of action

Judgement is necessary in every moment of life: what is healthier for me to eat? A donut or an apple? One can label my judgements about donuts to be " dark judgements", but thats pointless. Every moment if life we have to judge and discern what is healthy for us and what is toxic, and to avoid the toxic. Lots of people may try to convince me that dozens of toxic things are healthy. For me to say a toxic thing is unhealthy isnt a “dark judgement”.

For example, Elon Musk is a proven cheater at video games and tells other pointless lies as a habit. He isnt a person to emulate. This isnt a “dark judgement”, its fact ive seen with my own eyes. I could list a dozen others about him but cheating at a pointless game and bragging about how good he is at it probably says most of what is needed to know about the mans character and why one should not follow or admire him. Its like cheating at golf (which Trump does) or shooting quail on the ground.
Its funny - i have several younger relatives. Some are in elementary school. They dont understand about politics or economics, but they understand “he cheats when he plays games”

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2008 started the Crisis period and a generation averages 20 years so a strict interpretation puts us 3 years away from the end of this Crisis period which would mean we are in the midst of the Climax where the fundamental identity and resulting Global Order is transformed like it was during WW2, Civil War and American Revolution. Perhaps this Millennial Saeculum has a bloodless Climax like the Glorious Revolution. Therefore, the 2nd Trump Term is the 2nd American Revolution that the Heritage Foundation claimed it would be.

It doesn’t seem like we have reached anything transformational or definitive though so perhaps this generation is lasting longer and we could have another 5-8 years left. Then, we are about to start the Climax and engage in total war which to my understanding includes cyber, psychological, and informational warfare using robotics and artificial intelligence this time around.

Unless reality isn’t fitting this model or this model only exists in the 3D Matrix and ascending into the 5D means you aren’t affected by these cycles as much or at all. Regardless, I still haven’t figured out how to get out my 9-5 loop.

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Maybe you just need to decide and then do it?
You’ll have another 40 hours a week to figure things out?
5D is a perception not a reality. In 5D we vibrate in our own situation and ignore the outside stimulus that’s out of our control, which is about 99.9% of what we worry about and debate in the 3D Matrix.

Most of lives are not that different from one-another … it’s only our perception that creates our personal experiences, when our heart, mind and head align in love and light that’s 5D perception. It’s right there between the eyes waiting for us to resonate with it.

Are you at 5D yet? You’re Invited! ~ Peace :slight_smile:

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My theory is that the Baby Boomers are the first generation to increase their functional lifespan and therefore hold onto power longer. Modern medicine has increased the physical body’s ability to sustain mobility and independent living well into the 80’s.

Unfortunately, dementia and other cognitive deterioration hasnt yet been cured so what we have is literally a generation of mentally retarded people who arent even interested in making sense anymore. They dont know even the basics of technology or how modern society and economics work and get angry about things they dont understand - which is a considerable number of things.

A suitable analogy would be old people refusing to realize they cant drive safely anymore but instead of a car accident we are facing a global economic pile up.

Those who will do best in the coming years will be those who are less reliant on the global supply chain. Shortage of random goods is going to be 2020 again but worse and with no solution in sight.

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In general as a category, I find most of the “5D” stuff headed in a direction different than I take. There are exceptions of course and I haven’t really analyzed Executive’s materials.

Much of the stuff and people I encoutner are very money focused. A lot of the discussions are along the lines of: If you make more money, you can do more with that money. Maybe Tony Robins is representative of this group: a great man who does amazing things, but very money oriented and his programs are very money oriented.

Since money is only a symbol, I don’t really focus on the symbol that much. Some money is necessary to live but I’m always amazed at how eagerly people throw money at competent people to handle something for them.

The (unhealthy) cycle is something like this:

Problem exists → find someone else to solve problem → throw money at them → need more money - > additional problems appear due to need for more money

This is an obviously unsustainable cycle but it is the madness loop that society has engaged in, including most the spiritual and financial gurus that are household names.

The (healthy) cycle I use is:
Problem appears → recognize the following:

  • It’s most likely actually someone else’s problem but they are trying to make it appear to be your problem (need a mortgage, finance a new car, expensive program to learn to be rich or spiritual, etc)
  • Most of these use the gimmick to make you feel better about yourself by purchasing something from them
  • Learn techniques to feel good without external source
  • In the state of emotional and spiritual self-sufficiency there are actually very few things you need to buy. You start to discover that 90% of your income was going towards junk and you could have saved time by just tossing stacks of $100 bills into the local landfill.
  • There are some things you do need. Research these things dilligently and strive to only purchase high quality items that will have a long life cycle.
  • One of those items you don’t need is any form of “credit” or interest payments. At one point 10 years ago I realized that I was working 20 hours a week to pay interest. I just stopped paying them and haven’t taken out a credit card or loan since. This descision alone gave me back 10,400 hours of my life so far (20 hours * 52 weeks * 10 years). Coincidentally, this is the amount of time required to invest to become a “Master” in some kind of endeavor. Beign a master at something also causes people to throw larger sums of money at you in an effort to avoid the fear and emotional pain of whatever they need done.