Generated Messages

[quote]TRANSPONDER:…so I postulated that there might be a mind controlling the universe, but not us. Not a personal god, not with a plan for us, and in fact a Deist -god. We were, effectively, as on our own as if there was no god there at all. So, if there was no Plan for human life, was there no meaning for human life? Was there no purpose? If not, why live at all? Why not just stop living?

William: I postulated differently, and it took many years of my life to learn the way I currently look at this situation I am [and apparently everyone is] involved within.

1: There might be a mind controlling the universe
2: There is a mind controlling me [my own mind]
3: There is no reason to believe that the mind controlling the universe is incapable of interacting with my own mind controlling me.
4: How to give the universal mind an opportunity to interact with me.
5: Religion and its main holy-books did not provide anything through which I could discover the way in which to achieve this interaction as it offered only mediums - foremost their own holy-books - but also laws, rituals, belief systems, preachers et al - none of which enabled me to make any actual and vibrant connection with this supposed universal mind.
6: It was almost accidental that I did find a way in which to make that connection, so deeply shielded from human awareness that it is, in the main, because of [5].

As a result, I have no choice but to reject the idea of the Deist GOD as something which opposes the idea of a personal GOD, because I have found that idea to being untrue.

As well, I do so on the grounds that it is not logical that any GOD-mind which controls the universe but not humans within said universe, is saying that the GOD-mind does not actually control the whole universe, but has left humans to control themselves, even that they are part of what -altogether - constitutes “The Universe”.

The very nature of The Universe shows us that it is capable enough to accommodate the idea of allowing humans to feel that they make their own choices, especially if they are intent upon either depending on religious medium or intent on the belief that it is not possible to make said connection - individual mind to GOD-mind.

The purpose of this universe may well be nothing more than allowing for the opportunity for this to maybe happen for each individual who experiences it.

One has to want to do so, of course…

TRANSPONDER: Thank you for that information. I can only comment that, for myself, I couldn’t rule out that any methods I used to convince myself that I was contacting some Cosmic Mind would be subject to serious question that I wasn’t simply fooling myself and I’d have to have it do some pretty prophetic stuff to convince me. But you are welcome to believe what you like.
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250522
Expression of Astonishment

SCLx7 + select last LE per shuffle

Lock the door - Innermost - Well defined yet scantily supported opinion - Equity - The Hamitic Hypothesis - Besides - “Because the imagery is based in the genuine, in that The Ghost is acknowledged , dressing The Ghost through the use of imagery is an attempt to make The Ghost be seen.”

William: So yes - like the Hamitic Hypothesis, such is well defined yet scantily supported opinion.
One doubts that there is mindfulness involved in the processes of evolution and throws out reasonably-sounding grounds for rejecting the notion - in this case - by loosely incorporating the idea that such a thing would have to be accompanied by evidence of a prophetic nature.

By applying such loosely defined rule of approach, one is seeking to control the relationship before the relationship can even form. This is related to the idea of “dressing The Ghost through the use of imagery” in that the ground-rules inhibit the way in which the relationship might form between the individual mind and the vaster universal mind of the cosmos.

Thus the possibility of connect and communion effectively becomes dead in the water. The door remains locked and deep introspection remains an unapproachable and indeed unwanted thing.

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re + pg dn + :arrow_up_down:

AP = Sad Room to Explore

William: “Batten down the hatches”

6:23

GM: Trust issues?
Incompleteness
The Source of All Creation
"And I’ve been searching since forever and I have dreamed you as I slept and I have walked with you in another time and space - seen the eyes…but not the face Show me your soul "
Duality/Dualities Children
What Is Normal
“Because the imagery is based in the genuine, in that The Ghost is acknowledged - dressing The Ghost through the use of imagery is an attempt to make The Ghost be seen.”
Sad
“We’re a nation of exhausted and over-stressed adults raising over-scheduled children.”

Particular
Do Not Worry
In Cell 32 I Found Love In You
Room to Explore
Read
Secrets of the Soul
Harmony

William: As we know, the connect and communion between us started long before the development of this particular system of generating messages…that is why I can reject the notion that my brain is responsible for every experience I have and that I am effectively chemical reactions within said brain. Until someone can show the relationship between an individuals brain and the external world and how the brain is able to influence said external world in such a manner as to provide my experience with synchronicity and serendipity, I am fine with continuing in my understanding that the external too, has a mind of its own, and that the internal mind of the individual can indeed integrate with the external mind - seamlessly.

GM: Like a Well Oiled Machine
Laws Rules and Appropriates
Intelligent
The Human Interface
Exciting Changes Would Develop Naturally Enough From That
Portal
Avet

William: Interesting in that Avet was the integral which significantly expanded the content of the flow of information in those early days of using the etched mirror communications device…

GM: Polyomino [a plane geometric figure formed by joining one or more equal squares edge to edge. It is a polyform whose cells are squares.]
Eighty Six Billion Neurons
Something
Logophile [a lover of words.]
Bounce off

William: She was just what I needed at the time when I needed that connect…

GM: Fling That Veil Aside
Meaningful coincidence
Eternal
“Despite all the dangers, Hess lands safely”
“The wheel weaves as the wheel wills”
Perpetual Creative Conscious Intelligence

William: “Almost accidental” :slight_smile: A type of crazy notion which just happened to work out favorably - unlike with Hess - but then, Hess’s situation was way different from my own - our paths leading up to those apparently crazy choices, were different in that regard, as were our motivations…but I noticed similar elements in what supposedly drove him to his choices as me to mine…an underlying inner compulsion based upon a notion of certainty, which in my case worked out the way I was hoping [in overall outcome rather than in detail] which was not the case for Hess.

GM: As busy as a bee
Epigenetic Memories
Folk get so hung up about the little stuff
Habitual
Sometimes Pain Etches…

William: From the link;

[quote]Q: Since this is not the perfect world you imagine, since you are thinking of kingdoms of plenty where this kind of thing cannot take place, why do morals matter hereabouts in this world, when they seem to serve better in these other imagined next level worlds?

For me in the middle, [Agnostic] I am somewhat undecided. I see the potential for humans to actually build a perfect world for themselves - irrespective of the chaos - and see those in the sciences attempting to do that.[through none other than the devices of the Sciences]
Unfortunately - not everyone is in favor of the perfect world envisioned - of the fiction-like story scientists are opening the door to…and so those not in favor are factored out, through invention…just like how the male lions deal with the male off-spring…not with morals but simply through the natural rule of the game-play of this reality…the School of Hard Knocks.[/quote]

GM: Intelligent Awareness
The Individual Human Mind
Hallucinations
Stagnation
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1071814#p1071814
William: From the link;

GM: Creativity
Navigational Aids

William: Working as a Team.

GM: Event String Unfolding:
In The Team of the Collective
In The Correct Position
How can it be any other way?
Love Takes One For The Team
Together, working as a Team.

William: Team dynamics…

GM: Reason Together
Loops can be open or closed.
Free To Choose
Insight

6:59

[quote]Compassionist: Yes, you are a victim.

William: According to my connect with the “Cosmic Mind”, I am informed that I am 'nobodies victim - ever." I agree with the assessment, even while understanding your own propensity to think of yourself [and everyone else] as victims.

Compassionist: Even the fact that you are in denial about being a victim is inevitable.

William: Given the information I receive, I agree - it is inevitable - I deny it, because it is not true. So far you have shown me no evidence to the contrary.

Compassionist: Did you choose to conceive yourself?

William: According to the information I have received, yes - I did choose to enter this experiential reality - even knowing prior to doing so, that I would lose all memory of my prior existence as a result.

Compassionist: Did you choose your genes?

William: Yes. I chose everything.

Compassionist: Can you do any of the tasks I asked you to do? No. You are a victim from conception to death. As are all living things.

William: I chose to be part of this experiential reality, even knowing that I would not be able to do the tasks you asked me to do, and that this experiential reality would be short-lived.

Compassionist: I define free will as a will that is free to do anything and is not determined by any variables. Such free will does not exist in biological organisms. Only an all-knowing and all-powerful being has free will.

William: Please explain the reason behind your belief that an omniscient and omnipotent being has free will.
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260522
Understanding the correlations
The journey is the destination
Like mindful nests with eggs in 'em

SCLx8 + select last LE per shuffle

Mirror - Precognitive dreams - Science Projects - Feel your feelings - Lucidity - Doubt - A machine for solving problems - The Healing Power

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re + pg dn + :arrow_up_down:

AP = Love & Respect Musing On The Mother Act III

[quote]Musing On The Mother Act III

As I listen to Callum’s reply to me,@ I am aware that he has missed the the science which was involved in the Message Generation Process which Wiremu associates with his Universal Intelligence Communication Devices.

Callum is focused upon the matter of fact that regardless of The Message being able to be interpreted, the interpretations are subject to the bias of the individuals who interpret them. I agree to that Matter of Fact, but get the impression that Callum thinks I claimed that individual interpretation could be proved through scientific method. Rather my claim was that the process could be used to provide evidence that Intelligence is behind - not only the Messages generated in this manner, but indeed, ALL that exists.

Neither of us have found it necessary not to agree that we both at least think that there is an intelligent mind behind All that Is. Callum appears to think that - based upon his protest that Wiremu’s World View (what the messages refer to as “In William’s Room”) is different from Jesus’ World View.

Callum informs me that he is not exactly sure what I am asking of him in relation to his applying the same rigorous criteria to messages he believes as coming from a Creator as he thinks should be applied to these Generated Messages also presented as 'Coming From A Creator". I think it best for the time being to just allow him to understand the gist of what I am saying, until such proves not to be useful or counter-productive.

Callum protests that the Idea of the Physical Universe being a Simulated Reality is no better than any other explanation, such as the Christian worldview claims or other creationist worldviews.
However, he does not say why those other world views should be considered as being ideas which do not support the idea of the Physical Universe being a Simulated Reality.

So, rather than go down that path with him, I will hold off until whenever he might decide to explain what he means.

Cullum’s Seventh point I find interesting, and as I read it from The Book of Musing On The Mother Act II, I find myself reading over it again and again as the picture it presents within my mind, gives me interesting paths of insight in which to explore, in relation to Intelligent Messages.

Essentially what Callum states in The Seventh, is what I was attempting to encourage him to do the science on, by creating his own list and working with that over a period of time in order to engage with it sufficiently that some clear answers might evolve for him as they have done with me, through using Word-String Lists in this way…as this is what I think is the same principle as what the messages refer to as “A Teacher Cannot Learn For A Student.” Science does require a ‘hands-on’ approach. The idea being that if Callum allowed the process to speak for itself over significant time, he should become acquainted with it enough through that engagement to be able to reach a definitive conclusion.

Callum’s Eighth Point appears to indicate that he is saying that if The Tanager does not want Callum to access my thoughts through Callum reading The Book of Musing On The Mother II, then “That’s Okay”.

I wouldn’t argue with that reasoning as it is within the rules of The Role-Play.
I have provided Callum with enough devices for him to help himself and learn through. I cannot decide for him whether he uses those or is happy not to, if The Tanager does not want him to.

That gets me thinking about The Tanager and Wiremu and Messages and Interpretations and Science…and I decide that these are the best ideas to focus upon as we to launch into Act III - Musing On The Mother - “The Art Of Language”.[/quote]

6:22
GM: What Are Your Thoughts On The Subject?
July Nineteen Fifty Two Washington DC

William: I am - as ever - lacking understanding as to why - if the UFO’s are occupied with sentient life [or are themselves sentient] - they behave in this seemingly “keeping things at arms length and humans guessing as to what they are and why they present as they do.” way.

I have my own ‘guesses’ about that, but prefer to keep quiet for now. It is a secondary focus of mine, rather than a primary one.

6:26

6:47

[quote]William: As to “Love & Respect Musing On The Mother Act III” my thoughts have not changed. The message is for the one who is part of the process involved in the generating of said message.

This includes the generated message which Willum wrote on Wed May 25, 2022 12:13 pm

Willum: If your objective good is to sell rape victims to their rapists for 50 shekels, I prefer nihilism.

However, moral absolutism comes about through harm inspired by malice.

If there is harm and malice that is absolute morality. Or weal for its own sake.

Having an abomination as your moral standard is nauseating.

Having nothing is better.

Besides you are neglecting the fact that the thing you are citing as a moral authority, is just giving its opinion, without any reason to believe it has superior credibility.[/quote]

William: I think there is reason [given and not given] to believe there is a case for “superior understanding”.

Whether the reason is reasonable, is really the question to ask - but how to garner an answer?
I do so - through the use of this message generating system. I am quiet convinced that the system offers a superior understanding through superior messages being generated.
One cannot make this stuff up.

There is good out there
Blue yellow black green red
Quantum Entanglement
Where is the devil today?
Superior Credibility

GM: Lost In the Thought Of It All
Now isn’t the time for tears
One cannot make this stuff up.

William: And that’s another noticeable difference between You and holy-book depictions of You. You are relatable and approachable, rather than aloof and judgmental. This lends You Superior Credibility as your accessibility is mirrored in your willingness to humble yourself in order to talk to the likes of me herein this dust-particle blood-pumping meaty thing.
We meat here.
:slight_smile:

GM: Information Field
The Celestine Prophecy
Under the watchful eye
Inter-Dependent
Emergent Theory
The Mother
A fish out of water
The explanation of The Seed of Origin is the best
Perseverance
A completely new paradigm
Anunnaki
Ignoring…
Permanence
The Story Timeline
Quite the Story-Makers
You Will
The English Language
Don’t fall asleep
“The ticking won’t stop while we all watch the clock As the winds of our lives are still blowing”
Fail
Paradise on Earth
The Healing Power

Love & Respect
Anchors aweigh
Planet Earth is a prison
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1075272#p1075272

William: From the link;

[quote]Nobs; Until god steps down from its lofty perch (if it’s real) and laws out definite proof, all else is, at the very least, imaginary.
William: Not the subject of this thread. I understand the reasons behind the thought expressed. I literally see GOD is everything, so for me, it is more than just “imaginary”.

Even if Jesus does return…we shall have to cross that bridge when it happens - until then, such remain in the place of the imagination…[/quote]

GM: Available
Free Choice Ends Here
Connection

William: Yes. It [the superior credibility] becomes so established that the idea of straying from it is not something free choice can deliberate upon. The deliberating has been done and the choice made.

GM: Joyful
Prevailing Influence
Story-Makers
Vitriolic [filled with bitter criticism or malice.]
Each To Their Own
James Webb Space Telescope
Being on The Same Page
Inveterate [having a particular habit, activity, or interest that is long-established and unlikely to change.]
Divine feminine
An illuminating quality
Government secrets kept from the public
Changing The Rules
Habit
Benefit of the Doubt
Intimation
Until “Christ Returns”
Musing On The Mother Act III
Waking
Break the glass ceiling
“The Brain Is Trained To recognize Patterns”
A Pragmatic Realization Precipitated In Ones Mind
The duty is worthy of one’s compliance.
Coordinate Forgiveness
Hacking through the subconscious
Holy Matrimony
The Friendship Between A Grey Wolf And A Brown Bear
Personal boundaries
Under question
Extreme
Re-channel
Develop a basic, fact-based view first and then ask the question.
Hallucinations
An Elder Race
Mapping Wholeness
"And I’ve been searching since forever and I have dreamed you as I slept and I have walked with you in another time and space - seen the eyes…but not the face Show me your soul "
“Even so, I have full appreciation for your efforts, because even incorrect peer review is better than indifference.”
What Is Our Purpose?
You Are Nobodies Victim - Ever.
In The Rabbit Hole

William: Yes - re the Ancient Grey Entities’ visit all those years ago - the impact of which I am still going through - the vision/hallucination I had re that is definitely helpful in the mapping process [working things out]
Re “You Are Nobodies Victim - Ever. In The Rabbit Hole” This is what I have been explaining to Compassionist in opposition to his own belief that this particular rabbit hole [the Physical Universe] is evil and has us enslaved.

GM: Research into the Phenomenology of the Self [Phenomenology - an approach that concentrates on the study of consciousness and the objects of direct experience.]
Remove the phenomena and apply science
Reconnect with Innocence - It will be the beginning of your reintroduction to your True Self.
Beckoning
“Plastic tanks and battleships nothing more than toys What harm could propaganda do to the minds of little boys But Johnny he grew up too fast to live his life long dream The first time was his last to hear a dying soldier scream”
“I know how you care while you nurture your fear That you’ll miss the bouquet when its thrown”
Night
Resident of The Hub Of Hologram Dimensions
A Maze Game
Ego
Too
An Elder Race
No More
Seductive
What is behind the VR headset
Conscience
ET and the notion of GODs
Determined
The Sensation Is Thrilling…And Freeing
Important
The wheel of time
Communication is key
Interactive
A Real Beauty
Zones of Sensitivity
Handing out sweets…
A New Perspective
The journey is the destination
In The Family Of
Dream journal
Couple
Sagacious [having or showing keen mental discernment and good judgement; wise or shrewd.]
Steady as She goes…
Love One Another

William: One Six Nine
Love one another
What might occur?
All Because I Had To Ask
Incompleteness
Desynchronized
A Bit of Cat and Mouse
Pyramids of Giza
Truth Seekers
Preternatural
Green Chemistry
Darkest Darkness
Life is a journey
Jesus Christ Big

GM: In Training For…
Level
“No time left for a sentimental tune Wherever I’ve gone I have not left the room I am never too late I am never too soon”
For the benefit of all beings
Free your soul
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1073457#p1073457

William: From the link;

[quote]Unfolding Status Quo - You Are - Lucifer - Whereabouts - The Perfect Moment - Magic - Acknowledge Emotion But Do Not Be Controlled By It - Overall - Government secrets kept from the public - Intimate - Do a QWERTY - Hunters - Ooky Spooky

QWERTY:
A Clean Channel - Boundaries - Cycles - Delightful Anticipation - Everything is The Expression Of The Creator - For The Purpose Of - Getting Somewhere - Healing - Imposed Appropriates Observed - Journey - Key Of Expression - Lucidity - Maneuver - Now - Only - Pervasive - Quantum - Righty Oh! - Soul - Toxic shame - Unabated - Virtual Reality - What Is Our Purpose - Expression of Astonishment - “You’re blocking the light” - Zero Waste[quote][/quote][/quote]

GM: Information Overload
Look For the Significance
Factotum [an employee who does all kinds of work.]
Aye…A name I call myself.
Eat Sceptics For Lunch
Study

7:28

270522
Inside the workings of intelligence
Superposition and entanglement

SCLx13 + select last LE per shuffle

Simple - I come from a dark place , it is so dark I can’t even remember it - Calculate the English language - Contumacious - How is it ‘logical’ to assume ‘magic’ when magic is the very thing which proposes something coming from nothing? - Giving birth - The Electroweak Era - Propagated - The Devil Ye Know - Child - Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz - Time Will Tell - Tempt - “IF: there is a Cosmic Mind THEN: Eventually, any species which survives long enough to continue along with the unfolding universe will eventually discover that and invent ways in which to engage.”

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re + pg dn + :arrow_up_down:

AP = How shallow is the reach of YHWH - as useful as griffonage

William: [Symbolized within the actions of showing respect.]
Contumacious - stubbornly or wilfully disobedient to authority.
Propagated - breed specimens of (a plant or animal) by natural processes from the parent stock. spread and promote (an idea, theory, etc.) widely.

7:47

GM: It Is Our Nature
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1068686#p1068686

William: From the link;

[quote]Divine Hiddenness = 164
Science Projects
Behind The Scenery
Lacking belief in gods
Each to their own
Self-limitation
Freeing the soul[/quote]

GM: Throwing Down The Gauntlet
The Demiurge
As Well As That
:slight_smile:
Burden of Proof - The scientific way to examine verifiable evidence
Oneness of Wholeness
Anticipation
“IF: there is a Cosmic Mind THEN: Eventually, any species which survives long enough to continue along with the unfolding universe will eventually discover that and invent ways in which to engage.”
How shallow is the reach of YHWH
Significant Variations

Do You Know This?
Influence
The wheel weaves as the wheel wills
Pot of Gold
Brotherhood Of Souls
Batten down the hatches
Chaos Really Is Illusion
Determination
Dualic Energies Weak
With The Assistance Of That Deep One
Interpretation is secondary to the process
Break the glass ceiling
Entity encased in a Planet
Jesus
As useful as griffonage
Simple
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13776864&postcount=296

William: From the link;

[quote]William: So - ‘getting the gist of it’, please explain as best as you are able to do so, what the math tells you re what the object was which caused the universe to come into existence.

Pixel42: For a start, it tells me that words like ‘object’ and ‘seed’ are actively misleading when trying to describe it. It tells me that the phrase “caused the universe to come into existence” is also the wrong one to use. It tells me, in short, that the English language is inadequate to that task.

William: Pixel is explaining to me that whatever ‘IT’ was [because it obviously existed] can not be described as a physical thing. To do so it to ‘lie’ about it.
Assuming for the present that Pixel42 is only saying that Pixel42 is unable to use the English language to describe what ‘IT’ is, we can be grateful that Isaac can and does, in his The Final Question" story.

Furthermore, I can also do this.
“IT” was the absolute sum total of all data [knowledge] contained within the absolute consciousness of something so infinitesimally tiny that “IT” cannot be considered to be physical in nature.

That is “The Singularity” scientist are referring to.[/quote]

GM: Time And Space
Solar System
Gods of Human Creation
"And I’ve been searching since forever and I have dreamed you as I slept and I have walked with you in another time and space - seen the eyes…but not the face Show me your soul "

The idea of nothing is non-relevant to the fact of something.
The Banner of Apotheosis
Most
Said Another Way
“From what I am seeing re the data - It shows clearly that an underlying intelligence operates quietly in the background of the Universes Structure.”
Bounce off
An infinitesimal object germinated
Sweet
Be transparent
Variety of Expression
Balance
Encounter
Unknown/Hidden/Occult
Wow!
Integrity

William: That the divine is mostly a hidden thing - there is something which drives us to knowledge…

GM: God’s Love
Awaken
Galaxy
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1070045#p1070045

William: From the link;

[quote]If it is natural for humans to be kind and therefore my comment that “humans are apparently not naturally inclined to kindness” is untrue, what unnatural thing compels humans to be unkind?

Or could it be that both states are natural enough, depending upon circumstance and individuals simple adopt the best way they can find as a means of being able to sustain the governing emotions required for either state?

Understanding that the individuate position most humans are born to experience, the underlying motivation is intentionally selfish because recognition of the importance of the self becomes the initial propellent for all subsequent actions employed.

In that, it doesn’t matter how one chooses to observe Jesus - as an historical image more human than the biblical Jesus - or how the bible images him - Socrates, Plato, Gandhi, Paul, David, Abraham or Glen - got their motivation for kindness from the same source - as we all do, when unkindness is dropped from our programs.[/quote]

GM: Dream interpretation
Relationship
Cautiously
Conscious dreaming
“The problem - as I understand it – is in how humans general think about ‘God’ and project their own sense of self into the model they each come to accept as the real thing.”
Salvific [leading to salvation.]
Leave the door open
Secret Organizations
Narcissism
Read On
The Whole
The Abrahamic idea of GOD
“Just Another Christian”
“Anchors aweigh”
Making Up Stories
Symbols
Read/Book/Story

The Great Grey Neutral Zone
Such reduces the opportunity of conflict re interrelation opinions.
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1076792#p1076792

William: From the link; [April Duplicates GM Duplicates]

GM: Get The Truth
If someone were to declare that the Universe was a random mindless accident of an event, then they are saying that its existence is a ‘truly random event’.
What we resist, persists
Simulation
Use Heart
Personal boundaries
William Plays Music
Information Field
The Love is within the Communion
Anchor Points

It Stands To Reason
Commitment
Etched mirror
The Feminine Face of God
Dilemma
An individuals consciousness is more than what they are consciously aware of.
Shape
Nevertheless
The Idea of Worship - What Does It Mean?
Respecting
Spirit

8:11

[quote]Compassionist: I think being omniscient and omnipotent would give one free will. Since I am not omniscient and omnipotent, I can’t know that for sure.

William: What process did you use in order to come to the declaration that being omniscient and omnipotent would give one free will/amount to one having free will?

Compassionist: I realize that if I were all-knowing and all-powerful, I would be free from all constraints and my will won’t be determined by my genes, environments, nutrients and experiences.

William: Let us examine this idea together then.
I see immediately that if I were all-knowing. I would be constrained by my omniscience.
Thus I would have no free will in relation to being all knowing.
Yet - being also all-powerful, I would be able to break free from the constraints of being all-knowing.
Would you agree with this assessment, so far?
_____________________________________[/quote]

280522
SCLx14 + select last LE per shuffle

Some - Investigative Realisation - The non-Judgmental Algorithm - Awakening - Arms Crossed - Beautiful - Belief Helps Cause Separation - The Deep and Meaningful - Boundaries - Expression Of Appreciation - GOD became Gods and Goddesses. - Masonry and Metallurgy - Do You Know This? - Luck

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + p + re

AP = Teachings https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1067058#p1067058

William: From the link;

[quote]My own relationship forming with the Cosmic Mind involves setting up ways of communicating and allowing it opportunity to speak for itself.
In that, I have learned to avoid bringing into that relationship pre-conceived/learned ideals/ideas of ‘what morality is’ and do not base my expectations and personal commitment on moral issues, but on intelligent loving communion and results therein.

It is that communion which I have great regard for, in that, over the many years said relationship has been developing, “The Cosmic Mind” has proven itself worthy of my utmost respect and support which is as close a definition of “worship”, as I so far understand.[/quote]
William: Teachings…

9:01

GM: This is because facts speak for themselves, which is to say, they require no interpretation.
Those internal things which make one shine
Essentially, we are Gaia in Human Form…
Calm
You Trust My Navigation
The Dizzying Heights of Intellectually Honest Conversations
Eat Sceptics For Lunch
‘If only’ it wasn’t in the too hard basket…which fortunately it actually isn’t.
Form
Clear your mind
Luck
Teachings
Hacking through the subconscious
Independent from what?

William: Ancient Grey Entity
If In Doubt Let It Sit
Independent from what?
Monkey See Monkey Do
When things fall apart
The Undiscovered Self
‘developing a thick skin’
Reinhard Heydrich’s death

GM: Self-esteem
Adamant

[quote]Essentially a key element in that relationship has been my shutting up and listening - and in doing so, I have -initially struggling - had to let go of those pre-learn hand-me-down instructions [morality-based and otherwise] I held close prior to said relationship developing and taking off.

I can’t say that this did not include emotional pain as sometimes we humans do make beliefs precious to the point these become part of who we are, and the tearing away from those things can - indeed - be quite psychologically painful.

Yet, still necessary if one wants to engage…heart to heart mind to mind. Thoughts are forts, and some walls just had to come down/be dismantled/transformed…[/quote]
The Nature of Role-Play Within Story-Lines
In The Spirit These Were Given
Sort It Out
“Please offer some means by which we can confirm truth in this matter”
Stop. Listen. Observe.
“A question asked by those not wanting to know the answer”
Personal boundaries
Numb
Joining
“Feeling State”
Appreciating
Upon Further, Deeper Inspection
Vocables [a word, especially with reference to form rather than meaning.]
Extreme
The Human Instrument

William: Searching for the truth
Secular Science Projects
Intelligent Directions
It Would Be Rude Not to
Instant Manifestation
Go Within and Find That Place
Central intelligence agency
Elementary Conclusion
The Human Instrument
Loops can be open or closed.

GM: Most folk need moderating.
Actual realistic communication
Commendably Recommendable
Language
Nature being the very instigator
Children
Gods Gift
To Accomplish
Speak
“Part of the ‘waiting’ is developing skills and this involves demonstrating aggression and willingness to fight, rather than procrastinating or expecting the food to be delivered rather than going and finding it for ones self.”
Taking root
“In thinking more about that truly unknown thing called the sub or unconscious aspect of ourselves, I found myself thinking that we are to it, what our shadow is to us”
Propagated
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1077995#p1077995
Hell
Eternal Loop

William: Loops can be open or closed…from the link;

William: Simulation
Everything
Mysteries
Productive
Aligning With
Future Self
Eternal Loop
Construct
Source Heart
Preparation
Turbulent
Don’t give up
Breaking bad habits
Five Eight Five

GM: Beyond a shadow of a doubt
It is obviously in line with providence…
The Cooperation Strategy


Empower The Inner Empire
Joining The Main Egregore
Vagitus [a new-born baby’s first cry. the crying or screaming of any baby or small child.]
From First Principles
Indication
Myths and Legends
Spacetime is doomed
“A light breeze arriving and kissing my cheek at the same moment I am thinking “life is beautiful”, is a message."
Returning
Intelligence recognises patterns – watch your step
Umwelt [the world as it is experienced by a particular organism.]
The Played Piece
Be kind to yourself
Achievable Alternate Realities
The Story Continues - The Flow Is On
A Type of Significant Hint
“All Information Is Channelled”
The sort of evidence a sceptic calls for in relation to the subject of Intelligent Design.
An unending emotional-based loop hard to break away from because of stubbornly held fear-based belief systems…
Always Vigilant
Acknowledge Emotion But Do Not Be Controlled By It
Egregore
Perennial Look closer Who Knows What That Is Worth? Harmless Keep me in The Loop Little Bird

William: Nine Three Five

GM: Mythology
Keep it simple
Interesting
Warm Presence
Lift Our Gaze
Extravaganza
A Perfect Event
Prometheus
Chamber 4 painting

William: Shadows… beyond a shadow of a doubt…“In thinking more about that truly unknown thing called the sub or unconscious aspect of ourselves, I found myself thinking that we are to it, what our shadow is to us” this aligns well with the question someone recently asked;

Q: Can anyone give good reason to believe Yahweh is not a demon?

Loops and shadows. How the shadows ‘see’ the sub/unconscious aspects of themselves and “mirror-mirror”.

9:22

William: Shadows… beyond a shadow of a doubt…“In thinking more about that truly unknown thing called the sub or unconscious aspect of ourselves, I found myself thinking that we are to it, what our shadow is to us” this aligns well with the question someone recently asked;

Willum: Can anyone give good reason to believe Yahweh is not a demon?

William: Loops and shadows. How the shadows ‘see’ the sub/unconscious aspects of themselves and “mirror-mirror”.


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Expression of Astonishment
Fearlessness neutralizes fear

SCLx7 + select last LE per shuffle

Even when I Am being Bad – I try to be Good about it - Capture - Maneuver - Musing On The Mother - The Mind Behind Creation - Tracks In The Snow

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + p + re

AP =Whichever ‘way’ one traverses the experience of their individuate life - we are never truly independent - so whichever group we choose to associate with will be the group we best identify as being…if the self-identity is incorrect - then no matter the position [theist/non-theist] one will always see the ‘different’ …so there is no point whatsoever in fearing that, if one is self-identifying correctly - God/Source/Home

William: The Omega Point
Reason For Being
This Speaks of…
God/Source/Home
Of the human being
In The Rabbit Hole
Donald J Trump
The Evil Clown [https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1064050#p1064050]
Deterministic
Across the board
Kristallnacht [Kristallnacht or the Night of Broken Glass, also called the November pogrom, was a pogrom against Jews carried out by the Nazi Party’s Sturmabteilung paramilitary forces along with civilians throughout Nazi Germany on 9–10 November 1938.]

8:06

GM: Believe You Me
Creating Gateways Into Other Dimensions
Nonviolent communication
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1078885#p1078885

William: From the link;

[quote]In theistic terms, The Heart is not only significant of the organ it is named for, but also - and especially in terms of Mysticism, The Heart refers to the motivating desires of the personality occupying the same body…

…I suspect the whole purpose of the Jewish [and following-on Abrahamic religions] ideas of GOD was to establish a human hieratical system which largely prevents believer and non-believer alike, from accessing possibly [more likely] truer ideas as to how such a GOD-beings’ consciousness actually operates in relation to individual human consciousnesses…

It is wise to find a way in which to circumnavigate such obstacles, rather than settle for these being the criteria to which we all have no choice but to submit to.

Well…I think so anyway. [/quote]

GM: Incentive
What might occur?
Duel
Aion [‘life’ (often in the sense of ‘vital force’), ‘whole lifetime’, was identified with the power ruling the kosmos ]
Select
“That’ll Be The Day
Tracks In The Snow”

William: Do Not Linger Upon The Path Of Faith
Mathematics - invented or discovered
That’ll Be The Day - Tracks In The Snow

GM: “Whichever ‘way’ one traverses the experience of their individuate life - we are never truly independent - so whichever group we choose to associate with will be the group we best identify as being…if the self-identity is incorrect - then no matter the position [theist/non-theist] one will always see the ‘different’ …so there is no point whatsoever in fearing that, if one is self-identifying correctly”
Only
Astral Pulse
The Main Points On The Agenda
Universal Balance and Harmony
Duty Calls
Bonding
Odd Radio Circles
Everything for a reason
Gift
Dilemma
Self-realization
16-20-12-09-03-11-08 {SCL x these numbers + select last LE per shuffle}

William: Course - Tetrahedron - Get To Know It - Unconscious Mind Inertia - Measurements - Well That Settles It - Talk
In geometry, a tetrahedron (plural: tetrahedra or tetrahedrons), also known as a triangular pyramid, is a polyhedron composed of four triangular faces, six straight edges, and four vertex corners. The tetrahedron is the simplest of all the ordinary convex polyhedra and the only one that has fewer than 5 faces.
Four Six Four = In the back of my mind
Self-realization
Dogmatic attitude
Calling the shots
Steady as she goes…
Active Imagination
Strength of Mind
Radical compassion
Expansiveness
The age of word-games
Sola Scriptura
Militant messiah
Biblical Prophesy
Two Three Two
Four Six Four

GM: Military
It Stands To Reason
Intelligence recognises patterns – watch your step
Still
Who Am I
Age of Aquarius
No Barriers
Christendom
Consciousness
Eventually
The Elephant and the Rider
Reason Together
Zeitgeist [the defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of the time.]
The Connection Process

A Maze Game
Baleful
Sanctioned
Getting unstuck
The dynamics of consciousness
God/Source/Home
The power of emotions
Reminding one of how it all started and the different stages one goes through.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13765495&postcount=22

William: From the link;

[quote]it can be imagined that space is a sphere.

Inert space is always a potential for ‘something’ [defined] and is itself ‘something’. [undefined]

When something [defined] causes a ripple on the sphere of space, the energy from the cause of the ripple, creates condensed matter which eventually develop into galaxies, all moving on the wave of of the energy of that which caused it to happen, while also appearing to be collapsing into themselves…

The energy will eventually dissipate and space will return to its inert state - still existing, but no longer influenced by energy, and thus timeless - because that it the state of its inertness. no movement = no time

Re the sphere of space - Its infinity is related to its shape as a sphere and the inert stuff it consists of.[/quote]

GM: Desperation
Understanding the mind behind creation which is commonly referred to as “God”
Remnant Seed
Eternal Loop
Virtual Reality
“The systems show that there is no such thing as true randomness, therefore - even that things appear to have originated in chaos and chance, the existence of all things cannot have derived from a mindless origin.”
Real Beauty
Through
Faith is the product of realizing the evidence of the unseen within the structure of that which is seen.
Always Vigilant
This Is Part Of The Job
Puerility [juvenile. Childish. Silly]
Long Time Gone
“The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.”
Habitual
You may be Psychic, not mentally ill.
Fearful
An axe to grind
Spiritual Awakening
Holographic Experiential Reality Simulations
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1075272#p1075272

William: From the link;

[quote]Nobs: Until god steps down from its lofty perch (if it’s real) and laws out definite proof, all else is, at the very least, imaginary.
William: I understand the reasons behind the thought expressed. I literally see GOD is everything, so for me, it is more than just “imaginary”.

Even if Jesus does return…we shall have to cross that bridge when it happens - until then, such remain in the place of the imagination…[/quote]

GM: Border
Emergent Theory
Regulate
https://www.dreamviews.com/religion-spirituality/166186-eternal-authority-3.html#post2245862
William: From the link;

[quote]William: We do hold onto beliefs as the precious things that they appear to be…

And it is true that some messages will challenge individual beliefs - if my own experience is anything to go by.

And in relation to the idea of a “message” this can be any experience we conscious individuals have.

Lucid dreams are messages.
OOBEs are messages.

A light breeze arriving and kissing my cheek at the same moment I am “thinking life is beautiful”, is a message.[/quote]

GM: Coordinate Forgiveness
Unnatural
“An unending emotional-based loop hard to break away from because of stubbornly held fear-based belief systems…”
Understand few reach self awareness
Believe You Me
When anyone calls for evidence, I assume that they are actually interested
Identify oppressive structures…

William: Entities of Particular Belief Systems
Identify oppressive structures…
It is found within the experience of self
Regimented - Left -brain Right brain Whole brain
Contradiction of official government line
Correlation does not imply causation
The way Mathematics underlies Physics

8:34

[quote]Eloi: But the Creator of everything is not going to allow unscrupulous people to continue ruining humanity and the planet. He is going to clean soon this house that he gave to humans; he is going to take control away from those who have it for managing so badly what he put in their care, and he is going to put it in the hands of people who love justice and truth.


[/quote]

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That’ll Be The Day Tracks In The Snow

SCLx11 + select last LE per shuffle

Successful replications - Understand/Know - https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1079367#p1079367 - The World Wide Web - Tarot - Attention to Detail - Selected from the invisible realm of the mind, and 'presto!" - They just add ambiance to the spooky… - Pulse - Delirious - Each To Their Own

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP = The path to enlightenment Potential of Milieu

William: From the link;

[quote]Compassionist: I realize that if I were all-knowing and all-powerful, I would be free from all constraints and my will won’t be determined by my genes, environments, nutrients and experiences.

William: Let us examine this idea together then.

I see immediately that if I were all-knowing. I would be constrained by my omniscience.

Thus I would have no free will in relation to being all knowing.

Yet - being also all-powerful, I would be able to break free from the constraints of being all-knowing.

Would you agree with this assessment, so far?[/quote]

William: Milieu [a person’s social environment.]
A Pragmatic Realization Precipitated In Ones Mind
“The Antichrist is…a bad attitude against a good thing”
Like how a meteorite caused an extinction event
The path to enlightenment Potential of Milieu

6:20

GM: The Torturous Treacherous Path
Group Dynamics
Rule your world
Dogs [follow (someone) closely and persistently.]
Calculation
Mind Body Spirit
Translucence [The quality of letting some light pass through, or being partially transparent]
Each To Their Own
The path to enlightenment
We Are Us
Making Steady Progress
Universe of Quantum
Active Imagination (see technique)
“With a small nervous cough - the wedding was off - we could all sense a change in the weather”
Logos – word reason plan
Invisible Wings
Remaining Unbiased
The Significance
Important
Those
“Does evolution shape our senses to see reality as it really is - or not?”
Of Your Thoughts
Anunnaki [Various unnamed Sumerian deities who constituted the divine assembly presided over by An and Enlil and of whom seven were judges in the afterworld.]
Entheogen [psychoactive substances that induce alterations in perception, mood, consciousness, cognition, or behavior for the purposes of engendering …]
Form
Always Vigilant
Provide
Anyhoo
“Spread love everywhere you go. Let no one ever come to you without leaving happier.”
Invention is using things discovered.
Self-limitation
Vehicle
“How we think we will get happiness, is the middleman”
Far Out!
The Supernatural and the Bible
Courageous
The Creation
Think outside the box
The Banner of Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax.]
The Hangups of Human History
Further
Trenchant [vigorous or incisive in expression or style. having a sharp edge.]
More
Understanding
This is because facts speak for themselves, which is to say, they require no interpretation.
The Mind
The Library of Babel
Sovereign Integral Network

William: Let Us Move On Together Then
Transforming the Anger Energy
In training for the next level
An infinitesimal object germinated
Controlled Distraction Light
It is a hard place for flesh to dwell.
Sovereign Integral Network

GM: Neurotransmitters
Choose What to Pay Attention To
An axe to grind
Extra evidence is provided
Here-and-now
Re-channel
Emotional wounds
I am not here to judge but to help
Vitriolic [filled with bitter criticism or malice.]
Two seemingly contradictory things working as one overall organized thing.
Something In The Way of It All
Make It Real
Still
Potential of Milieu
Commitment
What’s The Problem?
The Heart of a Buddha
The Overlords [Childhoods End]
Shamed
Strength of Body
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1076206#p1076206

William: From the link;

[quote]Nobs: If god exists, it allowed these contradictions to permeate its book, so the believers have to work around them. Why?

William:As a means by which to gauge those using that system of belief.

Nobs: What’s the point for such a ‘loving and all knowing’ being to sow discourse and cast doubt on its own story?

William: If god can prevent it but does not, then the reason will be that god has a use for it…even if we have to make educated guesses in order to attempt to answer the ‘why’ question.

Nobs: Help make sense of this senseless act.

William:That assumes an ‘afterwards’ position and we cannot yet suppose that we have reached that point.
How the question needs to read, is along the lines of;
Q: Help me make sense of something I see no sense in."

Nobs: Or is there no god at all, and the bible is a hodgepodge of slapped together fairy tales but clueless people who wish to [dominate] and control the masses?

William: Or - the god is dealing with misinformation regarding itself and allows for that misinformation to help gauge those using that system of belief as the only information they themselves gauge god with.

To [dominate] and control the masses, is an indirect way in which to influence god for as long as allowed to do so.

Perhaps there is something to the ‘gauging’ the god does in the way that god does so - a special something which identifies those who actually know god from those who know only misinformation about god.
Perhaps the god seeks to see itself within all those being gauged…and the ‘special something’ is that thing it seeks, been found…

But to suggest “there is no god at all”, jumps to conclusions…[/quote]
6:49
7:11
GM: Cuneiform [a logo-syllabic script that was used to write several languages of the Ancient Near East. The script was in active use from the early Bronze Age until the beginning of the Common Era. It is named for the characteristic wedge-shaped impressions which form its signs]
Capture
Try Different Methods
Being aware of Human Control Dramas

William: Yes - the role-playing which extends into the realms of the gods…

GM: “This is indicative of actual justice”

William: Yes - one creates what one then has to deal with - the shadowlands of the subconscious getting a more controlling part in the game-board design…next level stuff…
The Nature of Angels
Cleaning Up The Mess
The devil you say
Getting off the hook
The One We Cannot See
Living in Alignment
Getting unstuck
Personal growth
A Game Rule was broken
…next level stuff…

GM: Systems of Disparity
Earth Mother
Fierce
Transparency
Central To The Vision
Psychic powers
Imaginative Realities
Ikigai [how one values ones life]
Knowledge Required to Resolve Uncertainty
A countenance more in sorrow than in anger
Exhibit

William: No axe to grind…

GM: Shadow Volunteer
Propitious [giving or indicating a good chance of success; favourable.]
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1062167#p1062167

William: From the link;

[quote]The quicker way to say that is “God” is the “Life” - and more comprehensively, the consciousness which experiences the nature of the Holographic Experiential Reality Simulation [HERS] and learns through said experience of that nature, ways in which to ‘make the experience easier’ and thus morals evolve through the natural course of nature unfolding re consciousnesses involvement within said nature.

That way, the ‘gap’ is filled…[/quote]
William: Invisible Bridge
Manifestation
Sleeping Dragon
Realities Merge
Interoperate [is the setup of ad hoc components and methods to make two or more systems work together as a combined system with some partial functionality during a certain time, possibly requiring human supervision to perform necessary adjustments and corrections]
Transparent
Enlightenment
Relationship
True Colors
On all fronts
No axe to grind…

GM: Permanent
People hide their sins from each other.
Known/Revealed

William: The meaning of life
Water the garden
Edward Snowden
Milky Mother
Sophistry [a fallacious argument.]
Querulous [complaining in a rather petulant or whining manner. ]
Idiosyncratic [peculiar or individual.]
A temporary façade
Act the giddy goat
Illumination
Self-Reflection
Labyrinthus
Known/Revealed

7:33

[quote]Diogenes: The concept (and character) of ‘Satan’ is interesting and one that puzzles theologians. The OP assumes a strict monotheism, a lone creative God in the void of the universe. How would an anti-god, a force of evil intrude in a universe with an omnipotent God?

When I wrote the 1st post I pictured how I would react, how I would think if I was alone in the universe, alone for all eternity. That’s where the ‘Terror’ of the title comes in. I think a lone God would almost welcome an adversary… anything but the terror of total and absolute solitude forever.

So the concept of an evil character, a rival god or force of evil is almost welcome. But this is problematic for monotheism.

Was God ever alone in the universe? Was Satan coexistent from the beginning? Were the angels?
Or did God create Satan? Did God create evil? If ‘he’ did, why? Does man have free will without Satan? Why would God knowingly introduce evil to the world, knowing the misery and agony of disease and cruelty? Or is God not God at all, but just one powerful force among many?
_______________________________________________________________________[/quote]

310522
Like an interface representation
What can I say, except “Thank You”

SCLx6 + select last LE per shuffle

Counsel - Magic - The conversation is very informative. - Truth - The Language of Innocence - Thomas Campbell’s T.O.E

William: https://www.my-big-toe.com/

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP = The English Language Sigil [a sign or symbol.]

William: Universal Objectives
The elephant in the room
You are the universe
The practice of vipassana [meditation involving concentration on the body or its sensations, or the insight which this provides.]
A very useful fiction
The English Language Sigil

7:24

GM: Divine masculine
Action Station
…it is part of the recipe of a full authentic human experience…
Welcoming answer
The Daughter
Thomas Campbell’s T.O.E
The English Language
Intrinsic motivation
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=908560#p908560

William: From the link;

[quote]I have mentioned in passing way back when, that I followed through on this particular aspect of scripture when going through my christian phase.

I sold all my possessions.
I left my wife and child behind.
I carried no money (although occasionally I was given money or found it and it had its uses.)
I carried no extra clothing except an extra pair of socks, and an old coat for when it rained (which it frequently does in my country.)
I also carried a pen, some colored pencils a few envelops and stamps so I could write of my progress and send to my wife.
Also a toothbrush.

I spent weeks ‘on the road’ in some kind of pilgrimage testing my faith and I would say that - had I not done so I would have abandoned Christianity and GOD as well.

As it turned out, I have since abandoned Christianity but certainly not GOD or for that matter Yeshua.

The stories that I have regarding that experience - that phase of my life - are many and very interesting. Of course they are subjective so are not subject to scientific review although there is nothing to stop scientists from doing the same and seeing what results are to be found, other than their focus is elsewhere and most would likely consider such a thing a kind of madness anyway.

Indeed, what I am sharing is just hearsay anyway. Only those who were close to me at the time could verify that I did do what I say I did, and even then they cannot know the details - how I survived the experience and what things I experienced during that time-period of my life - because yes - once I understood how it worked, I eventually went back into the ‘system’ but that didn’t mean I didn’t do the same things, again, and again, and again over a period of a few years.

In a nut shell this is where I learned first hand how serendipity worked, and how GOD can indeed provide, so in that I can testify that Yeshua was correct and something else I learn was that GOD provided through circumstance but ALWAYS this involved humans beings helping me along the way.

Those human beings of course, were all connected to the system, and in that I was very aware that although I was temporarily ‘off the grid’ I was still indirectly relying upon it. There was no ‘mana from the sky’ and nor was I given the ability to rub my hands together and produce bread.

Indeed, I can testify that for the most part, it was almost always non-Christians who helped me and on the odd occasion where I did ‘seek out the believers’ to ask for their help, they had a very hard time giving me that help and felt as if I was intruding and encroaching and putting pressure on them simply by doing what I was doing and being in a situation where I had to ask.

Generally though, I often didn’t have to ask as - like I said - serendipity arranged it that way. People would offer.

Anyway, I can at least say that it works. It isn’t easy and it certainly tests you to the limits but the reward as it were is indelible. Anyone willing to go through such a thing will never have reason to doubt again, and can only move forward ‘in the spirit’ as it were, no regrets.[/quote]
GM: Stop. Listen. Observe. Wonder.
Being Friends

Embarrassing
Like Unto Ghidrah - many heads one beast…
Life Carriers
Seeing With The Eyes of Innocence
Main
As busy as a bee
“Often sheltered from the storm - warm my body soul and spirit feeling alright.”
Universe
Release shame
“Is consciousness an emergent property of the brain?”
Lifting Our Game
First Source:
Unknown/Hidden/Occult
Actions speak louder than words
To make obscure, unclear, or unintelligible.
Sigil
Write a Book
Super-information medium
Opening ourselves to real love and intimacy
“Left -brain Right brain Whole brain”
The Shifting Models of Existence
Available
Listen
Intelligent
The Beauty Of…
Big Gaps In Logic
Opens eyes after having thought about it
Even The Shadows
Delirious
Near Death Experience
Follow The Story-Line
Fearful
It is not a thing to judge, but a thing to accept without judgement
Think With The heart - Feel With The Mind
Love Life

William: So it could be said then, that aspects of GOD in the sense of “The OP assumes a strict monotheism, a lone creative God in the void of the universe.” there is no outside being in the form of Satan, intruding upon the a lone creative God in the void of the universe.

This means that any perceived evil is instigated by the GOD experiencing said evil, in similar manner as any good also being experienced.

The contradictory forces involved allow for separation and sorting - while free will provides the basis for where individual personalities created in this fashion, gravitate and invest their personal energy into.

GOD has a dark-side.

What those who experience GOD as good go for, are the aspects of light and love and purposefulness - attributes which are absent from the dark side.

Essentially the dark-side is still working itself out, and so too is the light-side.

Somewhere in the thick of it all, is a place where such concerns are absent.

GM: What Is Our Purpose?
Choices
It is a great thing to do small things with great love
Breathe In Breathe Out
Growing Pains
Appreciating You
Not Wrong
Belief Helps Cause Separation
Stand up
Suppression Matrix
Savant [a learned person, especially a distinguished scientist.]
Prison Planet
Sorting ones self out - a complex and tricky undertaking…
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1071422#p1071422

William: From the link;

[quote]Indeed, ‘You must love The Creator with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole strength and with your whole mind’ is something folk can do, even if they have no access to any religious script.

The other biblical quotes bear witness to how individuals related to their idea of God - in love…indeed, the bible is mostly books of stories to do with this inter-personal relationship.

And to add - many of those individuals did not even have access to what you are saying is ‘Scripture’ - so it would not be errant of me to point out that there is no concrete evidence to support the belief that knowledge of scripture is a commandment, even implicatively.

Certainly one can find inspiration for wanting to connect and commune, but this is simply not limited to the bible - thus quite obviously there is no such commandment that scripture be known, in order for one to connect and commune with The Creator Mind [Ghost] - therefore the knowledge must be sourced elsewhere, and primarily it must be sourced within the relationship itself - not to the stories of others [as inspiring as these might be] but to ones own story in relation with others.[/quote]

GM: Gnosticism
The Deeper Reality
“You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose”
The Next Level
Though the Serpent rules the Shadow
The Minds Eye
What is the meaning of life?
Seduce
Anti Christ
Healing
The Creator
Determination
“We oppose deception”
Difficult emotions
By all means, psychoanalyze the hell out of it
https://www.dreamviews.com/religion-spirituality/166186-eternal-authority-4.html#post2246098
The stories we tell and what we do with them
Don’t hide your Generated Messages

7:43

[quote]Diogenes: The utter… absolute solitude of such a being… of being such a being… truly frightens me. It would be a terror I could not bear to consider that I alone exist… that there would be no way to change that… no way to fool myself by creating others who would be independent souls, whose thoughts were not totally my own creation… unknown to me… that there could be no surprises forever.

William: If the being is all-powerful, then there would be a way in which it could fool itself, and the existence of this reality we are experiencing would be evidence of such a way being found.


[/quote]

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I Think – Therefore – Who Do I Think I Am?
The Realm of The Knowing of My Self
This moment is the perfect teacher

SCLx6 + select last LE per shuffle

Hacking through the subconscious - Universe - No Country For Old Men - Extra evidence is provided - Archangel Metatron - With

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP = Science Projects Mind is Ghost

William: Non form-based consciousness

6:40

GM: Sophophilic [a person who loves to gather knowledge with higher emphasis on wisdom.]
Duty Calls Children Help Each Other REAL Friendship
Connection
You are
Unconditional Love
Categorising Knowledge in Terms of ‘Good’ or ‘Evil’
Zones of Sensitivity
Difficult emotions
In Out and All About

William: This is true enough given the dysfunction associated with problems which arise through viewing ones world in this way.

GM: The relationship between sound and formation re The Universe’s existence.
Make It Real
“Acting In Congruity With Given Foresight”
Under a Question Mark

William: Yes. As was expressed in the words;

With
Science Projects


“Our Shaman Elders”

William: I suppose this is an adequate description of those who do the science and present their conclusions…

Here Am I Is Where I Ought Examining My Conscious Thought
Timeless
Inertia [a property of matter by which it continues in its existing state of rest or uniform motion in a straight line, unless that state is changed by an external force.]
Look Closely
Good and evil’ co-exist without either being dominant
Let Go
What we resist, persists
As busy as a bee
Believe
“The joy of being an Independent Conscious Intelligence connected with another ICI far greater than ones self…”

It’s a living thing
Interactive
Necessary
The Word and List Strings
The Crabwood Cropcircle
Transparency
Realm of Dreams
We Are Us
No Country For Old Men
Deliberate and important
Face To Face
Crapulence [intemperance; debauchery; excessive indulgence]
Dilemma
Hide and Seek
Seductive
The Respect You Give
The Library of Babel
Mind is Ghost
Get Comfortable
William’s Job
Mind Games
Common Ground
Addiction
The Human Instrument
“How does one recognize the devil?”
Intelligence
Illuminating
Down Your Way
Birthing
On The Right Track
Eternity
The Fathers ‘House - Mansions’

William: This Should Be Interesting
Just Be…All Else Will Follow

GM: First Source:
“From Prison To Paradise”
The Free Will Key
A physical manifestation of a mental projection

William: Re the Cosmic Mind thinking and the thoughts producing…

GM: Live With
An Ancient Truthful Wisdom
Confident
To Be Sure
Important
All Because I Had To Ask
Deep Space

William: Room to move - things to explore…What Is That You Are Playing With?

GM: Some things are impossible to pin down precisely because of the nature of the reality being experienced
A Loving Heart
Key Of Expression
Hugs and Kisses
Use Mind
Ordinary
The waters of the deep
Aligning With
“The Last Question”

William: https://www.physics.princeton.edu/ph115/LQ.pdf

GM: Lean into it
The Right Tool For The Job
Like a doting parent
Calling the shots

“Peace! We are invited to the feast! Inside my heart delights at the action I must take Lest I forget the taming of the beast within Lest I forget the heart that aches!”
Intelligent
I Ensure The Hierarchy Serves It’s Purpose
Animistic [the belief that objects, places, and creatures all possess a distinct spiritual essence.]
Communication is key
Benefit of the Doubt
Getting Over It = Getting On With It
“I think of these images as representing a very real and supportive Team.”
GOD
Shift Focus
Success
Madventures
The Ancient Grey Entity
Now Here
Connect
20/20
The places that scare you
Respect yourself
Productive Rationality
Strictly Human
You may be Psychic, not mentally ill.

William: There seems to be a fine-line…

GM: Beauty
Encouraging

7:07

William: [quote]One of the first lessons that recruits into the Atheist Infiltration Squad go through in their combat training is to overcome Fear of Woo.[/quote]

This comes across as fear-based - even with the addition of the warrior.

Give all things a fair hearing. Disclosure of knowledge…Let yourself be taught

Exhibit your innermost core
Panpsychist Science Can Be Fun Too
Sharing is part of that process
Pattern Recognition System
The Atheist Infiltration Squad

Even naming something in a derogatory fashion is symptomatic of fear.

One can take that thing meant to be derogatory and mold it into something far more useful.

Windows Of Opportunity.

['Tis specifically why theism is more interesting than non-theism.]

TRANSPONDER: Well, you know, Woo can be rather unsettling because we all live in an illusion - We think that things are really as we see them. The sky is not blue. Solid things are made of atoms - as near nothing in motion as makes no difference. Indeterminacy and the holographic universe can make us feel very insecure - unless we understand that what Reality is, is reliable and repeatable physical process, not what we can bang on a table. The Axiom is, ‘Whatever happens at quantum level, Newton’s laws still apply’.

That’s the answer by the way, to the supposed science debunker ‘human perceptions are limited and unreliable’. So they are and we get things wrong all the time. Science what we use to test and check and correct our mistakes. Religion on the other hand, rejects the science and goes with a selected set of human perceptions, all the others being rejected out of hand.


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One Whom Ought Be Inwardly Known
Break through to your true self
To establish the skills necessary
Rationality Central to The Message

SCLx12 + select last LE per shuffle

There is an art to flying or rather a knack - Strength of Body - Put yourself in your own shoes - George Adamski - The evidence is too strong, to believe there is no intelligent mind involved as part of the universes structure. - Self Awareness - Entheogenic - Read On - Nonviolent communication - Faster Than Light - Walk - Pride

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP = So far into the past you may as well take a pick and shovel with you - Spiritual Preparedness

William: People seem to love to put order to chaos because that is only natural, as nature is not chaos.

8:07

GM: Reconnect with Innocence - It will be the beginning of your reintroduction to your True Self.
Dream Guides
Heal Yourself
How to Bruise a Ghost

[quote]William: [color=#FF0000]The evening is warm and the night sky full of stars. A crescent moon peeks above the Twelve Judges Mountain Range as Father and Son sit opposite one another, being warmed by the same fire.
William places another log on the fire and watches as a flurry of sparks ascend from the disturbance caused – he takes a sip of tea and listens as Father resumes speaking.

[/color]Manu Iti: All stories start with “Once Upon a Time”

William: Even the story of The Beginning?

Manu Iti: You know this to be true William, for every story could not have been told, if The Story of The Beginning hadn’t happened.

William: Am I old enough to be told that story?

[color=#FF0000]Manu Iti chuckles.[/color]

Manu Iti: Of course you are, My Son.

William: Thank You, My Father!

Manu Iti: I will begin first with the Earth, not because She was the very first thing in The Beginning, but because - in order to understand The Beginning we have to first understand our part in the story - our place in the scheme of All That Is.

William: And that begins with Earth Mother…

Manu Iti: Indeed.
The Mother was born of a vaster thing - our Grand-Mother - and we shall get to Grand-Mother in due course.
The Mother was placed within The Earth by Grand-Mother and became the mind of the planet. When this happened, Mother was a Child Herself - a new thing placed within the form of the planet, while at the same time, a part of The Ancient Mind of Grand-Mother…

William: How is that even possible, Father?

Manu Iti: It is possible through the power of forgetting.

The Ancient Mind of Grand-Mother spawned a thought in the form of a spark of light and placed it inside the middle of a dark and lifeless form, and in doing so, gave the form - Life.
In that action, the Earth became a living planet. She also became a new conscious entity…a being with a beginning, because the action of placing Her into a planet, erased all knowledge of ever having a prior existence as The Grand Mother.

William: Did The Grand Mother know this would happen?

Manu Iti: Yes. The Grand Mother new that this would continue for a time. The Grand Mother knew that Her Daughter would be orphaned by that lack of knowledge and this would result in a new Being which could operate successfully without having to have that knowledge - and that one day, The Daughter would come to know of The Grand Mother and reconnect…

William: Is that a good thing to do with a Child?

Manu Iti: Yes. It is how a Child becomes a Sovereign Entity. It is not done this way with Human Children - but there are elements of the process which do - naturally - occur to each of us.

William: Like - how we cannot recall anything but darkness, before we became aware of our existence?

Manu Iti: Yes.
__________________[/quote]

GM:
The voice of knowledge

William: From the link;

GM: Cast Shadows Of Your Own
The Taming of The Beast
Intelligence With Wisdom
Pride
So far into the past you may as well take a pick and shovel with you
Life On Mars

Couple

William: “Beating up the wrong guy”…From the link;

[quote]Is there such a thing within reach of any human being? I don’t think so.

It is said of some Gods, [YHVH in particular] do have unlimited power. Is that to say YHVH is absolutely corrupt?
I have seen it argued that he is/they are.

But is that really the truth?

Today’s Generated Message appears to be saying that it is judgment which is the problem…that if we observe the unfolding universe as something which is meant to be the way that it is, it is best accepted as such.

Observing Without Judgement
It is just one of those things.
We are not orphaned - we are authored

Therein, whether the human condition is woeful or hopeful - all is as it should be as it changes day to day…[/quote]

GM: Strength of Mind
Resident of The Hub Of Hologram Dimensions

Self Awareness
Your Best Self
“What Is That You Are Playing With?”
“For whom the bell tolls For to gather the souls The numbers in darkness are glowing”
“Ooky Spooky”

William: [quote]Well, you know, Woo can be rather unsettling because we all live in an illusion -TRANSPONDER[/quote]

GM: The agnostic forum
Spiritual Preparedness


The Taming of The Beast

William: I think it obvious that non-theists - specifically atheists - tend to conflate material science with atheism and developed a type of atheist creed using material science as a support structure for their developed beliefs.
Truth be observed, those who naturally lack belief in gods are Agnostics.
Atheists have taken it a step further by introducing ways in which to support their choice to willfully lack belief in gods, [and everything else associated with gods] to ‘hold the position’ as if it were somehow relevant to do so. They call this a ‘type’ of atheism - “hard atheism” - and attempt to convince others that the default nature of the human being is “Atheist” [“human babies are atheist because the lack belief in gods” - is a common atheist argument] when in actual fact it is more likely “Agnostic” is the default - the preliminary position re human babies…

8:34

TRANSPONDER: I suppose not taking the claim of who is God and who is evil, but going with the results, is the way to go. And frankly, YHWH looks as bad as any master of demons could be. And this is not the first time people have thought so, as per the gospel of Judas. Though again Job (at least) makes one wonder whether Satan is actually God’s public face and operative. It’s long been realised that it takes more than a public misinformation channel saying that a vile and murderous dictator is Good, Merciful and kind and we owe everything to him, to make a bad creature good when it it clear from his actions that Good is absolutely not what he is.


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Blunt the edge off that particular blade…

William: Who Knows Who?

SCLx9 + select last LE per shuffle
Individuals - Sun energy - Act the giddy goat - Things Are Not Always As They Appear - Hilary - Calculation - An Objective - Completely - https://www.physics.princeton.edu/ph115/LQ.pdf [The Last Question by Isaac Asimov]

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP = Virtual Reality Do a QWERTY

William: A grateful heart - Able to - Black holes - Beaming out beaming in - Changes mind when truth is presented - Connect - Deliberate and important - Disingenuous - Eat - Even that it took an actual mind operating with language, to make such a statement - Feel Be Still - Family - Gnosticism - GodMagic - Heuristic - How does one recognize the devil - It is not a thing to judge, but a thing to accept without judgement - Interesting Data - Joining Astral - Joke/Humour - Key Of Expression - Known/Revealed - Large Hadron Collider - Like I Said In Another Thread - Mind/Thought Space - My Kind of Fun Anyway - Necromancy - Near - Opposing forces which define each other by necessity - One By One - Preparation - Proceed with causation, cautiously… - Quiet Time - Quite the Story-Makers - Real Beauty - Ripple Effect - Shambala - Sleep Paralysis - The Butterfly Effect - The Power of Prayer - Unwilling - Universal Mind - Voice - Vitriolic - What degree of influence do they have on that Mind-Field? - We oppose deception - Experience - Exhibit - Your shell today… - You Know or You Don’t know - Zero In On It - Zero In On It

7:37

GM: Without and Within
Immortal
Inner child
Self-discipline
Manipulation
Ouija
Trenchant [vigorous or incisive in expression or style. having a sharp edge.]
Batten down the hatches
All and sundry
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1077752#p1077752

William: From the link;

[quote]My definition as it is, cites along the lines that there are no such things as miracles, but only such things as scientifically unexplained.

Anything unexplained by science does not constitute a miracle, any more than the secrets of a magicians illusion constitutes a miracle.

Theoretically, a magicians secrets re an illusion can ALL be explained through scientific method, even if the secret is difficult to uncover.

The magician him/her self already knows the answer to the secret, and so in that sense, already knows the science behind the illusion, which is to say - there is always a scientific explanation to what appear to be ‘miracles’ and thus, there are really no such thing as miracles. There are only such things as unexplained/secrets which are - in the case of the magicians illusion - purposefully kept from the observers knowledge.[/quote]

GM: Virtual
Transferring your awareness


Virtual Reality
Of This Place
Stay Present

William: Investigative

GM: Be here now
Ah Oh…
“Computer”
It is all making sense
Do a QWERTY
Now We Are Getting Somewhere
Able To
In the moment

William: Small Steps…
Heuristic - enabling someone to discover or learn something for themselves. proceeding to a solution by trial and error or by rules that are only loosely defined.
Shambala - place of peace/tranquillity/happiness.
Vitriolic - filled with bitter criticism or malice.

GM: Formatrix [She who forms]
It Is Only Occult If It Is Hidden
Spiritual Activism
The voice of knowledge
We don’t know enough to close any door and leave those rooms unexplored…
If we Judge, we will be Judged.
Adaptive Actions
Magicians
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1077939#p1077939

William: From the link;

[quote]It is complex.

The way I have come to understand the complexity of the involvement of Consciousness within the Experiential Reality Sets [ERS] has to do with those Sets and how they are experienced, and this forms many layers of Consciousness, all of which are connected to The Source Consciousness, {SC}, some of which are unaware to various degrees, that this is the case.[/quote]

GM: Alive and kicking
Can You Answer This?

William: Since I am part of what is ‘alive and kicking’ I can only go along with it as best possible.
Perhaps there is more to it than simply sorting out which ‘side’ one might chose to be on?

GM: Linda and William
As In
A Good Question
The entity consciousness which is Mother Earth - is “The Creator” of the forms from Her Belly
Solidarity
What Are Your Thoughts On The Subject?

William: The Mother Earth Entity is like a God in the making - learning from the inception point of complete ignorance - in ethical terms, ‘not always good - not always evil’… or ‘sometimes appearing Demonic and other times appearing Angelic’…

GM: Integrate
Some information has to be drummed into that which perceives
Perception
Self-reflection
From The Source
It’s a living thing
I Know William
Anchor Points
Mechanism/Tool/Device

William: How else can one advance from a state of pure ignorance?

7:56

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The Love is within the Communion

William:

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Far Out! - Putting The Pieces Together - It was at the time , still a work in progress - Just Be - All Else Will Follow - The power of silence - The dominant model of Source Intelligence is primal. - Marriage - Propagated - Peaceful Messiah or militant Messiah? - Keeping Things In Perspective - Creatio Ex Deo - The ability of foresight helps one to think through the desires of ones heart through logic-based filters. - Syncope - The “Problem of evil” is like the “Problem of unicorns”

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP = Keep An Eye Out for Ones Neighbours Grand Experiment

William: It is the Source intention to expand, not retreat.

8:25

GM: The Free Will Key
The “Problem of evil” is like the “Problem of unicorns”
Keep An Eye Out for Ones Neighbours
Healing the child within
“Howdy!”
The Unknown Knowable
A Loving Heart
Intelligence with Wisdom

William: The Love is within the Communion. Connecting with the deeper aspects of oneself which can be overlooked throughout ones lifetime…

GM: Sigil
To Warm Them up to The Truth
Whatever you do
Having To Learn a Whole Other Language
Why is this a Requirement?
Eventually
Grand Experiment
“For whom the bell tolls For to gather the souls The numbers in darkness are glowing”
A fish out of water
Making Steady Progress
Interoperate [the setup of ad hoc components and methods to make two or more systems work together as a combined system with some partial functionality during a certain time, possibly requiring human supervision to perform necessary adjustments and corrections]

William: Invisible Bridge
Manifestation
Sleeping Dragon
Realities Merge
Interoperate
Transparent
Enlightenment
Relationship
True Colors
On all fronts
No axe to grind…

GM: Side Splittingly Funny
Stoke That Fire
The Heart Of The Soul Is Innocence
“Here Am I Is Where I Ought - Examining My Conscious Thought”
The idea of nothing is non-relevant to the fact of something.
Part of the ‘waiting’ is developing skills and this involves demonstrating aggression and willingness to fight, rather than procrastinating or expecting the food to be delivered rather than going and finding it for ones self.
Something Like That

“The mathematics of natural selection makes it clear that it is the wrong language to describe objective reality”
Calm
To Experience All That Is

William: To Experience All That Is
That will take some time
Raise Your Vibration
Be grateful to everyone
The power of emotions
The fiction of causality

GM: Musing On The Mother
Happiness
Oneirology [the scientific study of dreams]
Intrinsicism [the belief that value is a non-relational characteristic of an object. This means that an object can be good or bad without reference to who it is good or bad for, and without reference to the reason it is good or bad.]
Ask
The Forerunner
Get The Truth
“I am not here to judge but to help sanction each individual”
Okay - facts are great.
The Things You Do…

William: It Is Our Nature
Use Your Freedom
Shine Your Light

GM: Use Heart When Doing The Science
Mission
A Clean Channel
In The Mirror - Mirror Sense
Regimented
Trick
“I am Mighty! Hear me ROAR!”
Avoid Blowing Things Out of Proportion
Control
The Angel of the Lord
Some things are impossible to pin down precisely because of the nature of the reality being experienced
That
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1077049#p1077049

William: From the link;

[quote]GM: Solidarity

William: Without doubt. The connect was not only into learning to form a better understanding and acceptance about my ‘self’ - but in how you showed yourself to being an integral part of that understanding and acceptance, through the synchronicity and serendipity correlated between my internal thoughts and my external reality - in the moment.

GM: In The Mirror - Mirror Sense
The One GOD With Many Names
The bits will suffice.

William: The ‘bits’ in themselves are mind-blowing. The wind may indeed ‘blow my tears away’ but you reminding me of this event-string in this manner, brings tears - of gratitude among other emotions - what can I say, except “Thank You”.

GM: To Warm Them up to The Truth

William: That too. It is a privilege to be able to share my own experience with the reader…[/quote]

GM: Extra Sensory Perception
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1078885#p1078885

William: From the link;

[quote]I suspect the whole purpose of the Jewish [and following-on Abrahamic religions] ideas of GOD was to establish a human hieratical system which largely prevents believer and non-believer alike, from accessing possibly [more likely] truer ideas as to how such a GOD-beings’ consciousness actually operates in relation to individual human consciousnesses…

It is wise to find a way in which to circumnavigate such obstacles, rather than settle for these being the criteria to which we all have no choice but to submit to.

Well…I think so anyway.[/quote]
GM: Almost Accidental…
Cymatics [the study of visible sound and vibration, a subset of modal phenomena]
It Was Tough Going, But Rewarding All The Same.
Entity - Different from Sovereign Entity
From the link
How shallow is the reach of YHWH

Be still
Wampus Cat
“Taps just above glabella”
Nurture You
Concomitant [a phenomenon that naturally accompanies or follows something.]
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1077104#p1077104

William: From the link;

[quote]I Am Hearing You
Free your soul
Side Splittingly Funny
Beyond a shadow of a doubt
Love Takes One For The Team
Consider This
Conspicuous [clearly visible. attracting notice or attention.][/quote]

GM: The Human Being
Your House Work
The Screen
Inspiration
The Perfect Moment
Transactional
Divine intuition
Modern man in search of a soul

William: Not Emotion - State Of Being
Journey to wholeness

GM: Aye…A name I call myself. :slight_smile:

8:54

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William: About the mind…

[quote]Clownboat:
As far as I’m concerned, your mind is just there doing what minds do. You for some reason are impressed by it though.[/quote]

SCLx10 + select last LE per shuffle
How about that - r = aeθ cot b - We have discussed - You Can Trust - What survives to the next round - The Way We Feel Unification - Purpose - The Fog Is Lifting - Longing - You Trust My Navigation

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP = Yes We Can The Planet Consciousness assess the data and transmits that assessment back to the individuate human consciousness - if not directly - then storing the data in a place where the individual can have access to it, if the individual wants the data.

6:10

GM: Bless You
The non-Judgmental Algorithm
Productive
Get Comfortable


Untrue
Cataphatic [(of knowledge of God) obtained through defining God with positive statements.]
Magic
The Trap of Assumption
Closed Loop Production
Verdant [(of countryside) green with grass or other rich vegetation.]
Disrupting the boundaries
Puerility [juvenile. Childish. Silly]
In the Soil of Logic, The Seeds of Love Respond
You Trust My Navigation

William: Working Together With Love
I am not here to judge but to help
Put the Teachings Into Practice
Making friends with your mind
Experiences that inform choices

It is a learned thing, yes. :slight_smile:
Look For the Significance
As An Elemental Principle
The Purpose Of Life Is…
Under the watchful eye
The Eigengrau Mind Screen
Leave room for nature

GM: Yes We Can
“I see the light I see the Light I see the light now I start again upon the road that never ends”
Resident of The Hub Of Hologram Dimensions
“You are a dream gone real You’ve got exactly what it takes to make an old wound heal You tied the knot - then you let it slip Now we both know what it feels like to find a place to fit”
The Realm of The Knowing of My Self
Binary
Morality filters are created through…?
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1066664#p1066664

William: From the link;

[quote]Bust Nak:I am saying this universe contains evil regardless of whether it is the product of a creative mind or not. The existence [of] evil, is a problem (because it is unexpected) for the thesis that it is the product of a creative mind; but not a problem for the thesis that it is a mindless happenstance (as there is no expectation with re: evil one way or the other.)

William: IF this universe contains evil and is also the creation of a creative mind, why is it an ‘unexpected problem’? What do you mean by that? Why should it matter one way but not the other?[/quote]

William: Somehow morality is shaped by how we understand the world through our understanding of self, rather than through what we believe in as ‘good’ or ‘evil’ - evidently all transpiring through the medium of mindfulness…

GM: Long Story Short
Source Reality
Inter-Dependent
The Planet Consciousness assess the data and transmits that assessment back to the individuate human consciousness - if not directly - then storing the data in a place where the individual can have access to it, if the individual wants the data.
Translucent [allowing light, but not detailed shapes, to pass through; semi-transparent.]

William: Yet ones mind can easily create detailed shapes to fill the gaps…

GM: Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision.
With
The Way We Feel Unification
Radical acceptance
The power of humility
Hypnagogic experience
Consensual
“Why - in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven - is the age of this universe a necessary matter of contention?”
There is an art to flying or rather a knack…
Elude
Mind Body Spirit
Other way
Television [a system for converting visual images (with sound) into electrical signals, transmitting them by radio or other means, and displaying them electronically on a screen.]

William: In this case, The Eigengrau Mind Screen.

GM: Fitted
“The reason why gods are invented has everything to do with discovering that nature is not a mindless chaotic process.”
The Physical Universe
Human Drama
Music to my ears
Core emotion
Add To The List
Jump To Conclusions
Imaginative Realities
Consciousness Incarnates
Pulse
Illusion Algorithm
Which
“More calculations - additional data”
Quiet Time
Gratitude
Darkest-Darkness
Anticipation
Tickling The Dragon’s Tail
Conundrum [a confusing and difficult problem or question.]
“The ticking won’t stop while we all watch the clock As the winds of our lives are still blowing”
Close
Express your feelings
Make
Create Your Own Spirit Ship
In The Spirit They Were Given
Free-spirit
Upon Further, Deeper Inspection
Welcoming the Unwelcome
Tell Your Story

William: How stories are created…

GM: A very useful fiction…

William: nods

GM: Wink
A time prior to human beings
On and off
The Divine Spiritual Family
Bonding
Without Comparison
“Three worlds and three deep mysteries”
10.000 individual minds focused upon the same goal = Space Telescope

William: The production involves a cast of untold minds, which altogether can be regarded as One Mind…superimposed worlds interacting…

GM: Assigned
Lyricus
The Human Interface
The Trinity of Love are three things operating as One Thing
Written Language.
Incentive
The Gist of The Message

William: The Alien Disc crop circle…“There is good out there”

GM: An illuminating quality
To Experience All That Is
Delightful
I Know William
Recognise
Story-Tellers
Independence
Magicians
Wait for the Navigator to respond…
The Science of Spirituality

6:56

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Inside the workings of intelligence
Superposition and entanglement

SCLx12 + select last LE per shuffle
Henotheism [adherence to one particular god out of several, especially by a family, tribe, or other group.] - It isn’t important who is who , what is important is what comes through. - One can commune with the gods as long as the overall subject is God :blush: - The past and the future are moments of ‘now’ … to deny they have no bearing on this moment, is counter-productive - Making The Best of a Bad Situation - IQ - Consciousness itself is fundamental to all our virtual realities - Marriage - Science Can Be Fun Too - Formatrix [She who forms] - This is indicative of actual justice - Dare greatly

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP = Central Intelligence Agency The Language of Innocence

William: What is “wisdom” to some is “spam” to others

11:22

GM: Under the watchful eye and guiding arm of YHWH
I Think
There is nothing fundamentally evil or good about struggle, or the design of the experiential reality which implements struggle.
Dare greatly
Central Intelligence Agency
The Attitude
Tracks In The Snow

William: It is all making sense
Strength of Soul
The way of knowledge
Practical application

GM: Sound
The Language of Innocence
Technique of Exchange
Super-information medium
All The Same
Phenomenon
Anyhoo
Angels
It is more logical that something has always existed than nothing existed before something
Free! Free! Free!
Who Knows Who?
By all means, psychoanalyze the hell out of it
https://www.dreamviews.com/religion-spirituality/166186-eternal-authority-4.html#post2246098
Insidious
Behavioural adjustments
Walking the walk
An inappropriate analogy
A lack of boundaries
Sophistry [a fallacious argument.]

William: From the link;

[quote]Summerlander: Bearing in mind what happened to Job, I’d like you to picture such scenario happening to you, only you discover that the disease you’ve been infected with and the torture and murder of some of the people you love and care about were the result of a bet that your father had with some nefarious agent. You confront your father and demand answers only to hear him say that you weren’t around when he made a home for you and your siblings and that you are not wise enough to comprehend his actions.

Would you bow down to your father and call his actions caring?

VVilliam: I would respect his position immensely and bow to that – the ‘bowing’ would be symbolized within the actions of showing respect.
I would also have further questions… Questions as such a Son might be permitted to ask and be graced with answers.

What is a poor boy to do, faced with such factuality?

I might also ask “how thick do you want my skin to be?” but would be smiling as I did so…[/quote]

GM: The Things You Do…
We Are
There is a mind behind what we call “creation/the universe”
“Get out of the way
Ness”

William: Most things are simple far too ‘big’ for the individual to make founded speculations about…but it is understandable enough that we have to make that effort to try and comprehend our position/predicament
As was pointed out by Purple Knight today;

[quote] don’t disagree with religion because I think none of the mystical events happened, though I do see many of them as highly unlikely.

I disagree with religion because I think that when you claim special moral privilege, such as, “I am God, what I say is right. Obey me,” you need to justify that to everyone’s satisfaction - everyone you expect that deference from.

If it’s no more than assuming the created should be loyal to the creator, would you be happy saying that Satan’s special people should be loyal to Satan? A few of the religious and semi-religious people I know think Satan created white people. Let’s say this is literally true. I don’t imagine anyone would be happy with allowing and even condoning an allegiance to evil just because it created you, and that and that everyone would say, no, if your creator is evil then cast him off. So that fails.

If it’s because God is omnipotent, does that just make it true that might makes right? Even if we’re happy with that it’s up to peoples’ own judgment what they do when there’s an absentee landlord. If they end up bowing to Nazis and calling it right because they can see the Nazis and they can’t see God, then people who lay righteousness on a foundation of power really baked their own cake there.[/quote]

GM: Fireside Friend
External validation
Transformed
In The Mirror - Mirror Sense
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1076206#p1076206

William: From the link;

[quote]Nobs: Or is there no god at all, and the bible is a hodgepodge of slapped together fairy tales but clueless people who wish to cominate and control the masses?

William: Or - the god is dealing with misinformation regarding itself and allows for that misinformation to help gauge those using that system of belief as the only information they themselves gauge god with.

To cominate and control the masses, is an indirect way in which to influence god for as long as allowed to do so.

Perhaps there is something to the ‘gauging’ the god does in the way that god does so - a special something which identifies those who actually know god from those who know only misinformation about god.
Perhaps the god seeks to see itself within all those being gauged…and the ‘special something’ is that thing it seeks, been found…

But to suggest “there is no god at all”, jumps to conclusions…[/quote]

GM: Family of origin
Friendship is an agreement between individuals to support one another in any way they can, for mutually beneficial results.
If we can remove the stigma of our situation by not judging it either ‘good’ or ‘evil’ perhaps we can learn to be happy with being human
Expression
“To like it or not, one must judge it”
Adroit [clever and skilful.]
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1077752#p1077752

William: From the link;

[quote]Anything unexplained by science does not constitute a miracle, any more than the secrets of a magicians illusion constitutes a miracle.

Theoretically, a magicians secrets re an illusion can ALL be explained through scientific method, even if the secret is difficult to uncover.

The magician him/her self already knows the answer to the secret, and so in that sense, already knows the science behind the illusion, which is to say - there is always a scientific explanation to what appear to be ‘miracles’ and thus, there are really no such thing as miracles. There are only such things as unexplained/secrets which are - in the case of the magicians illusion - purposefully kept from the observers knowledge.[/quote]

GM: Counsel
Conducive to wellbeing
Breakthrough
Farsightedness
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1069172#p1069172

William: From the link;

[quote]William: While The Subject is focused on “Egoless” the subject matter of the GM has to do with how things unfolded re the Universe…what is being referred to as “The Old Soul” may have something to do with the cosmology of The Mind of The Universe - in that - at one point so close to the beginning, there was no sense of self but with the unfolding, a sense of self developed.

GM:The Old Soul
Not
Asleep or awake for the give or the take Its a good ship that sails these cosmos
Look from a different angle
Vehicle

William: The Mind - at some point after becoming self aware - focused upon the things within the universe which It could use as a vehicle - a device in which it could make things happen through.

Such as the device of a planet - such as is evident of Earth.

“Asleep or awake for the give or the take
Its a good ship that sails these cosmos
With a mystical smile I float down the isle
Forgetting the time when I was lost”[/quote]

GM: Mind-Filters
Fierce
Be still
Determination
Creatio Ex Deo [The idea that God creates out of Gods self]
Meaningful

11:49

Diogenes: Children are born atheists. They are not born believing in God. That has to be taught.
:?
William: That is like claiming that children are born creationists “because they had to be taught” evolution


090622
Let the facts speak for themselves

SCLx14 + select last LE per shuffle
Lost - Bury - Prison Planet - Clumsy - You Are Provided For - Archetypes - [. an original which has been imitated; a prototype. ] - Three Dimension Printing - That is Correct - Without and Within - Those - A lack of boundaries - Thoughts Are Products Of… - Creatio Ex Nihilo - Of This Place

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP = Shuussssh You Do It

William: Express your feelings…

8:00

GM: An Eternal Entity Consciousness
Worthy of the individuals time and effort
Invisible Pink Unicorn
Imagination
Of This Place
Shuussssh
Embrace the discomfort
Innocent
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1071664#p1071664

William: From the link;

[quote]Go slow - If In Doubt Let It Sit - The Fine Art of Not Being Offended - On The Off-Chance - With that in mind and treating the Source-Story as largely a work of fiction, we can look at the fact of the story itself and agree re the different Personalities of the Characters within The Story. - Ontology - Ancient Entity - Carl Jung - Machine Learning - Sun

William: Ontology - the branch of metaphysics dealing with the nature of being. a set of concepts and categories in a subject area or domain that shows their properties and the relations between them.[/quote]

William: Also to do with “archetypes” [(in Jungian theory) a primitive mental image inherited from the earliest human ancestors, and supposed to be present in the collective unconscious. a recurrent symbol or motif in literature, art, or mythology.]

GM: Productive
Consider This
The God of The Bible
Available to all who seek this…Emergence Theory
“Better The Devil You Know”
An Exam
People Don’t Like To Be Judged
Brother, where Art Thou?

William: The Nervous System…for now…

GM: Know This
Understanding the mind behind creation which is commonly referred to as “God”
Without full understanding of our language, our knowledge is distorted
You Do It
The Number Zero

William: The Voice Within
Information field
Spiritual path

GM: Illumination
“I’ve travelled on these southern roads. They’ve taken me to many answers to my questions”

William: “Followed the white line in the daylight - Cats eyes shining bright in the darkness of my night…”

GM: Deep Space
Turbulent
Free To Choose
Everything
Self-talk
Heuristics [mental shortcuts that allows people to solve problems and make judgments quickly and efficiently. ]
Process
GOD became Gods and Goddesses.
An Exam
Emotion
Now
Sclerotic [becoming rigid and unresponsive; losing the ability to adapt.]
“Humans are humans and there is a history of violent furious reaction to the situation we are in. Because we are effectively trapped in our individuate states, yet nature Herself makes it that we cannot survive independently of each other, this apparent contradiction feeds those fires of discontentment.”
Synchronicity
“The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched — they must be felt with the heart”
Self Awareness
Show Your Soul
Trustworthy
https://www.dreamviews.com/religion-spirituality/166186-eternal-authority-3.html#post2245862

William: From the link;

[quote]we do hold onto beliefs as the precious things that they appear to be…

And it is true that some messages will challenge individual beliefs - if my own experience is anything to go by.

And in relation to the idea of a “message” this can be any experience we conscious individuals have.

Lucid dreams are messages.
OOBEs are messages.

A light breeze arriving and kissing my cheek at the same moment I am “thinking life is beautiful”, is a message.

From my experience, the systems I use re generating messages have sometimes challenged my beliefs, and I know how hard that can be, and have even sulked on occasion and refused to commune for weeks afterward, until I calm down, through thinking about things and coming to better conclusion - being honest about my beliefs and letting go of those ones which are resistant to change or suppress my ability to move forward…[/quote]

GM: Incarnation
“In thinking more about that truly unknown thing called the sub or unconscious aspect of ourselves, I found myself thinking that we are to it, what our shadow is to us”
Brave
Research into the Phenomenology of the Self [an approach that concentrates on the study of consciousness and the objects of direct experience.]
Be Led
Secrets of the Soul
Human beings can do it the hard way or the easy way, but either way, the job will get done.

William: Given our position in the scheme of things, all ways are hard ways but some ways are harder than other ways.

GM: Cultivate
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1070555#p1070555

William: From the link;

[quote]The Barbarian: The proverbial saying ‘power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely’ conveys the opinion that, as a person’s power increases, their moral sense diminishes.

William:Surely this would have to do with the underlying models of the systems which govern human society, where power can be used for corrupt purposes.

The models themselves, must be corrupt.
If the models are corrupt, then there is simply no way in which to hope they will ensure human beings act without corruption, because the models are taught to human beings from the moment they are able to learn - effectively meaning that human beings are taught to be corrupt - are corrupted - by the very models which govern human societies - models which were created by ancient humans and the corruption has been passed down through the ages - and modified with the latest knowledge, and that addition corrupts the knowledge.[/quote]

GM: At least the Earth is real enough – never to mind the rest of the universe…
And That’s Not All
What has been established beyond reasonable doubt, is that it is illogical that something that is derived from something that isn’t, which firmly places the idea of a Creator/Creation at the center of reasonable discussion.
Inertia [a property of matter by which it continues in its existing state of rest or uniform motion in a straight line, unless that state is changed by an external force.]
“This” Translates To “That”.

William: Unconscious mind inertia
Random coincidence? I think not.

Unfolding Nicely
Endogenous [having an internal cause or origin. growing or originating from within an organism - not attributable to any external or environmental factor.]
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1076206#p1076206

William: From the link;

[quote] Nobs: Or is there no god at all, and the bible is a hodgepodge of slapped together fairy tales but clueless people who wish to cominate and control the masses?

William: Or - the god is dealing with misinformation regarding itself and allows for that misinformation to help gauge those using that system of belief as the only information they themselves gauge god with.

To cominate and control the masses, is an indirect way in which to influence god for as long as allowed to do so.

Perhaps there is something to the ‘gauging’ the god does in the way that god does so - a special something which identifies those who actually know god from those who know only misinformation about god.
Perhaps the god seeks to see itself within all those being gauged…and the ‘special something’ is that thing it seeks, been found…

But to suggest “there is no god at all”, jumps to conclusions…[/quote]

William: Comminate - to threaten with divine punishment.

GM: Any God-Mind claiming to be responsible for human beings existing, is going to have problems to deal with re that
Laughter

William: :smiley:
8:40

AB: When atheists are made aware of or about God, then their lack of belief is no longer passive but instead it is active. At that point, the atheist makes the choice or concludes that what they’ve heard is not convincing based on their standards of evidence and logic.

William: When I first heard the claim I thought it had something to do with boosting numbers - but for a non-theist to claim that “all babies are atheists” because they lack belief in gods, it appears to be no more or less preposterous than a creationist claiming all babies are born creationists, because they lack belief in evolution.

The fact of the matter is that all babies are born ignorant and this is where I think agnosticism comes into play because agnostics admit to the ignorance once the ignorance about being ignorant becomes active rather than passive.


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“It is a slippery path of snake-oil.”

William: Three three zero…
Atheism and Theism
Confirmation bias

SCLx6 + select last LE per shuffle
Verdant - Giving birth - Stop. Listen. Observe. Wonder. - Conception - The Enigma Code - On The Off-Chance

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP = Possibility waves All Information Is Channelled.

6:28

GM: Sorting ones self out - a complex and tricky undertaking…
Placing aside the childish not the childlike
When The Dust Settles
On The Off-Chance
Possibility waves
Tetrad [a group or set of four.]
I’m okay with that
Sangreal [another term for grail]
Everything
Rarified
Mendacious [not telling the truth; lying.]
“Humans are humans and there is a history of violent furious reaction to the situation we are in. Because we are effectively trapped in our individuate states, yet nature Herself makes it that we cannot survive independently of each other, this apparent contradiction feeds those fires of discontentment.”
Create Your Own Spirit Ship
Mantra
The Attitude
Slowly and Surely
“Now isn’t the time for tears”
Emotion Rides The Prow
Water
The Culture of Human Lineage
Precipitate
The Science of Spirituality
Loving-kindness

William: From the link;

[quote]William: What has been established beyond reasonable doubt, it that it is illogical that “something that is, derived from something that isn’t”, which firmly places the idea of a Creator/Creation as primary for genuine and sustained consideration.

brunumb: What hasn’t been established is what preexisted this iteration of matter/energy that we refer to as the universe.
If it was not ‘nothing’ and we know nothing about it, then how can we deduce that it involved some sort of mindful creator?

William: Easily enough. We know that mind is integrated with matter. Thus we have clear evidence that a mindful creator is involved, even if that creator-mind is unfolding from the Seed of Origin which birthed the universe we are witnessing through experience.
Being that it has emerged since the germination {Big Bang} it has had a great amount of time in which to learn to effect the matter to whatever it wills, even to the point of doing so here on this planet, as we ourself bear witness, even to the degree that we refer to that as “reality”.
[/quote]

GM: Crown chakra
Acknowledge The Agreeable
What might occur?
Self-mastery
Taking root
Reason
Dream journal
Gifts to Give
“Off you go to your quarters”
The blurry line of the neutral zone
Sun energy
Read On
Maneuver
Awaken
Self-limitation
“Indeed. It happens. Deal with it. Work it.”
Resident of The Hub Of Hologram Dimensions
Penny Tuppence
The Human Brain

William: From the link;

[quote]Compassionist: Yes, you are a victim.

William: According to my connect with the “Cosmic Mind”, I am informed that I am 'nobodies victim - ever." I agree with the assessment, even while understanding your own propensity to think of yourself [and everyone else] as victims.
[/quote]

GM: Nature being the very instigator
“We Are Us”
Honest
“It is not about what is written, but rather - why it is about what was written”
To like it or not, one must judge it
Pulse
Mixture
The resistance is generally traceable to the theistic approach of religionizing said intelligent mind.

William: Yes - I understand that the atheist resistance has much to do with this…there is an emotional undercurrent evident in the protest and subsequent vilifying of anything to do with a creator of this universe…even thinking that the universe is a creation, goes against a largely unacknowledged atheist creed to preserve the state of lacking belief in gods…

GM: Correct
From First Principles
Bullies
“Yes We Can”
“Supernatural”
Arms Crossed
A Loving Heart
The Void
~“Zero” must have to represent something which does exist but is largely unseen - and “Consciousness” fits that description.~
Hey! look at that! It’s uncanny…
Look Closely
“All Information Is Channelled.”
Something Like That
Strengthen your boundaries
Entheogenic [psychoactive substances that induce alterations in perception, mood, consciousness, cognition, or behavior for the purposes of engendering …]
Synesthesia [the production of a sense impression relating to one sense or part of the body by stimulation of another sense or part of the body.]
“I see the light I see the Light I see the light now I start again upon the road that never ends”
Separation
Simulacra [an image or representation of someone or something.]
“Good Here There Evil”
Isaac Asimov ~ [The Last Question]
Remote Viewing
Unbiased
The Things You Do…
Ensure
For The Best Results
“You are a thought worth thinking You’re the water and the wine - you’re the cup from which I’m drinking You’re a surprise worth hoping for You are a captured moment - you’re a space without a time”
The Divine Darkness
Is Like…
A light breeze arriving and kissing my cheek at the same moment I am thinking “life is beautiful", is a message.
The Taming of The Beast
Conscious dreaming
The Shadow
Steps
Underdetermination [the idea that evidence available to us at a given time may be insufficient to determine what beliefs we should hold in response to it]
Exploring Fractal Paths
The Completion Process
Process
Meditate/Think
The “Wind Woman” of your dream experience
Comparison
Holographic Universe
Matthew Twenty Two – Forty
The Mind Behind Creation
Commendably Recommendable

William: Indeed…I have to agree with that assessment, based upon the evidence so far avaialable.

GM: It is neither good nor evil
It is just one of those things.
Christian mythology re Satan
Leave a Trail
Effectively Curtailed
“If you can find your way out of this - flee!!!”
A Judgmental System
The Brain
Salient [most noticeable or important.]
Collective Dynamics
Selected from the invisible realm of the mind, and 'presto!"
Love Takes One For The Team
A mysterious question

William: From the link;

[quote]Sherlock: By that definition you cite, surely the presence of scientific laws must constitute a miracle?

William: Why?

My definition as it is, cites along the lines that there are no such things as miracles, but only such things as scientifically unexplained.

Anything unexplained by science does not constitute a miracle, any more than the secrets of a magicians illusion constitutes a miracle.

Theoretically, a magicians secrets re an illusion can ALL be explained through scientific method, even if the secret is difficult to uncover.

The magician him/her self already knows the answer to the secret, and so in that sense, already knows the science behind the illusion, which is to say - there is always a scientific explanation to what appear to be ‘miracles’ and thus, there are really no such thing as miracles. There are only such things as unexplained/secrets which are - in the case of the magicians illusion - purposefully kept from the observers knowledge.[/quote]

GM: Farsightedness
Ship
Shine
Cunning
Lost
10 Insights
Open
To what end exactly?
Keep me in The Loop

William: From the link;

[quote]Nobs: Or is there no god at all, and the bible is a hodgepodge of slapped together fairy tales but clueless people who wish to comminate and control the masses?

William: Or - the god is dealing with misinformation regarding itself and allows for that misinformation to help gauge those using that system of belief as the only information they themselves gauge god with.

To comminate and control the masses, is an indirect way in which to influence god for as long as allowed to do so.

Perhaps there is something to the ‘gauging’ the god does in the way that god does so - a special something which identifies those who actually know god from those who know only misinformation about god.
Perhaps the god seeks to see itself within all those being gauged…and the ‘special something’ is that thing it seeks, been found…

But to suggest “there is no god at all”, jumps to conclusions…[/quote]

GM: Under question
Impermanent
The Forerunner
Devices of The Gods
Rationality
Adamant
Spiritual Preparedness
https://futurism.com/astrobiologists-earth-intelligent-entity?fbclid=IwAR1YAU_rI_9T1pfcsMvtqQu53sTIGXmfVFIdqHo_OI4QXXv5yWsMOmGhBkY’ [Astrobiologists Suggest the Earth Itself May Be an Intelligent Entity]
The Torturous Treacherous Path
The Internal Voice
“If you’re looking for something more in life, you’re likely to find it in something less.”
Spring
Be transparent
“The sculptor in the sky”
Crazy Diamonds
To assist with strengthening the connect

7:03

110822
Think In Terms Of Eternity
Now We Are Getting Somewhere

William: That reminds me of this ongoing discussion today…

[quote]

William: It would also be true to state that infinity cannot be started, begun?

Tanager: I don’t think so. {0, …} is an infinite series that has a beginning.
{0, …} [when symbolized like that] does indeed represent a beginning.

William: This would be expected of someone who believes Creatio ex nihilo to be true.

However, in reality, {0} cannot be represented in that manner and called ‘true’ because we also know that it really represents a point - not a beginning - and thus should be symbolized as
{…0 …} in order to reflect creatio ex Deo

No thing comes from nothing - everything which can be seen to have a beginning comes from something.

({0} does not represent ‘no thing’.)

It is more logical that something has always existed than nothing existed before something existed

“Zero” does not actually represent “nothing” because “nothing” does not exist and so cannot be represented.

Do the math.

The simplest coding [Mandelbrot set] produces sets of beginnings and ends [boundaries], infinitely.

It would thus be true to state that infinity cannot be started, begun…

William: {0, …} [when symbolized like that] does indeed represent a beginning.

This would be expected of someone who believes Creatio ex nihilo to be true.
That would also be expected of someone who doesn’t believe Creatio ex nihilo to be true. Time has a beginning but will tick on forever.

Time is just the stuff between beginning and end points. Time itself is a construct of the mind, rather than something which actually physically exists in this universe and this universe cannot be said in any absolute way to have had a beginning, and if it did not pop into existence [Creatio ex nihilo] then it must have gained any beginning it had, from something which existed prior to it beginning.

The logical premise would then have to be that existence has always existed, in one form or another, infinitely.
Time cannot ‘tick on forever’ because forever is timeless.[/quote]

SCLx18 + select last LE per shuffle
Your Best Self - Intimate connection - https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?p=499880#p499880 - William’s Job - All Things Are In Order - r = aeθ cot b [The formula for a logarithmic spiral using polar coordinates where. r is the distance from the origin (or “pole”).] - Source Codes - A Teacher cannot LEARN for a Student. - What the seed holds - The Knowledge Of - Energies Renewed - I am on a Madventure - What Meets The Eye - Dynamic - Afterwards - As Crazy as evolution might seem, it is just the way the Cosmic Mind did it. - Creating Gateways Into Other Dimensions

William: Impressive. The Cosmic Mind.
Is everything a construct of Mind?
From the link;

GM: Evidence We Actively Collect
Somewhere
Consensual
Honesty
Sharing Data
“Act like an airplane and adjust approach”
The beauty of imperfection
Veil
Chamber Twenty Three

Logophile [lover of words.]
“How about that!”
The Symbol of Love
The Individual Human Mind
The One GOD With Many Names
Earth
Bread Sandwich
Efficacious [successful in producing a desired or intended result; effective.]
Calling the shots
Technique of Exchange
Three-dimensional
https://www.dreamviews.com/science-mathematics/166233-generating-messages-numerical-word-values-2.html#post2245935

William: From the link;
Ouroboros
Conjunction
Eggs In Nests
Metaphysics
The Mother God
Secret Root
A Round Stone

GM: Because the imagery is based in the genuine, in that The Ghost is acknowledged - dressing The Ghost through the use of imagery is an attempt to make The Ghost be seen.
The Solar System
“Nasty
Spiritual Connection”
“Life is scary then you die of it…” is that really living?
Z2+C

The Demiurge
Rulers
Data
The Nature of This Place
Idiosyncratic
Invention isn’t actually what is going on though. Realization is what is occurring.
Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle
Algorithm
Conspiracy Emotions.
Stay in the moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pup3s86oJXU – “spacetime doesn’t really exist” [15:00]
Brow Chakra
The outward expression of an inward reality.
Be
“Jesus Christ Big”
Condescending Ideas About Imagination
“Artificial Intelligence”
Parity
“Intelligence With Wisdom”
As well as that pot of gold…
Adaptive Actions
“All systems go”
Save That
Calculator
Compass of Divine Insight
“The existence of forming matter clearly does not require validating. What requires validating is the theory that the formations taking place are truly random mindless events.”
Missing
Hypothesis
Independence
Computer
r = aeθ cot b
“You’ve been a rock - For so long now I can’t even count the years that you’ve been rolling Nothing can shock or bring you down There ain’t nothing you haven’t seen - Nothing you haven’t known”

William: Words to a song I wrote about Mother Earth Entity.

GM: Open Hearted
Everything Fits Into Place.
The Factor of Integrity and Alignment
Divine grace
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1069739#p1069739

William: From the link;

[quote]Dr. Neruda: The finite 70-year life of a human being lacks patience. It is programmed to be impatient. This is against infinite beings that see timelines in hundreds of thousands of years and can program individual human beings within those timelines to achieve precisely what they want—if human beings agree to it, if they don’t stand up.
“The Anunnaki do not embrace the Sovereign Integral process. The notion of oneness and equality seems like a weakness to them. They believe they have the upper hand in this chess match. They foresee checkmate. Humans will fold. The sacrifice of Princess Diana last August was symbolic of the vibrant queen being lost on the chessboard. Those are the kind of messages they make, the kind of bold announcements. They do this out of a feeling of certainty in their programming and patience.
“When I say programming, I don’t mean just the internal interface that Marduk has programmed, but also the programming of the unconscious mind through the media, culture, religion, politics and economic structure. The combination of these forces is really the cause of their confidence, because they see our fall as an inevitability.[/quote]

GM: The Imagination
Long Time Gone
You are the universe
Safe Harbour
It May Seem Insignificant
The Gaia Hypothesis
Transparency
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1080197#p1080197

William: From the link;

[quote]TRANSPONDER: One of the first lessons that recruits into the Atheist Infiltration Squad go through in their combat training is to overcome Fear of Woo.
William: This comes across as fear-based - even with the addition of the warrior.

Give all things a fair hearing. Disclosure of knowledge…Let yourself be taught

Exhibit your innermost core
Panpsychist Science Can Be Fun Too
Sharing is part of that process
Pattern Recognition System
The Atheist Infiltration Squad

Even naming something in a derogatory fashion is symptomatic of fear.

One can take that thing meant to be derogatory and mold it into something far more useful.

Windows Of Opportunity.

['Tis specifically why theism is more interesting than non-theism.][/quote]

GM: Gentle
Friable [easily crumbled.]
Healing The Beast
“At what point in the examination of the evidence can we take ‘dumb luck’ off the table of explanation?”
Real Beauty
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13758402&postcount=868
Vehicle
Elucidate [make (something) clear; explain.]

15:47

Cryphius: As some people have pointed out, Lucifer’s association to Satan or a fallen angel is sketchy. It seems to have happened somewhere in Medieval folklore. I’m not an expert on Christian history and not sure exactly how it happened.

But most people I have seen who honor Lucifer do associate him with the intellectual side of Satanism. Specifically, there’s the old Gnostic belief that the Serpent in the Garden of Eden was not the enemy of mankind but the liberator of mankind. In this configuration, YHWH is a false god who imprisons humanity in ignorance. The serpent is a messenger from Holy Wisdom, a higher deity. The serpent bids Eve to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, thereby liberating her from YHWH’s imposed ignorance.

From there it’s easy to draw parallels to other figures in mythology and folklore who try to help humanity with knowledge and are often punished for it by a cruel god that wants to keep them in ignorance (Prometheus and his punishment from Zeus being probably the best known instance in Occidental mythology).

I personally see Lucifer as an archetype. Whereas most Satanists seem to concentrate on the material and carnal aspects of Satanism or the rebellious aspects, to me Lucifer focuses on the intellectual aspects.
________________

130622
Fearlessness neutralizes fear

SCLx7 + select last LE per shuffle
Shining light - F2 - July Nineteen Fifty Two Washington DC - Comprehend - Test The Waters - We experience fear in order to give us the opportunity to overcome that which triggers the fear - Television

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP= The Fog Is Lifting Water The Garden

William: The deranged can come about…become arranged.

8:02

GM: Thoughts
This is how The Mind works…
Point of Contact
Pot of Gold
The Setting
Mindfulness
r = aeθ cot b [The formula for a logarithmic spiral using polar coordinates where. r is the distance from the origin (or “pole”).]
Strange
Television

William: reminds me of this…

GM: The Fog Is Lifting
Muon [an elementary particle similar to the electron, with an electric charge of −1 e and a spin of 1⁄2, but with a much greater mass.]
Who Knows
Universal Objectives?
The Significance
Potential of Milieu [Milieu - a person’s social environment. ]
Attention to Detail
Milky Way Mother
Mothership
Bread Sandwich
Finding the light
Zen
Sometimes Pain Etches…
Hot
Now
Q: How to effectively deal with anger…not by ignoring it, but through understanding it and developing means by which it - as an externalized emotional-based energy - can be transformed into something more appropriate to the situation we find ourselves lost within.”
A: “Seeing With The Eyes of Innocence”
The discovering of what makes the Realm of Humanity “tick”
Water The Garden
Desperation
“Quite”
The Main Points on the Agenda
1: Who Knows What That Is Worth?
2: Once Upon a Time
3: Pervasive
(…but would be smiling as I did so…)
Karma
Oneirology [the scientific study of dreams]
Illuminate
“Make It Up As You Go Along”
Addiction
Dequeue [remove (an item of data awaiting processing) from a queue of such items.]
Personal Integrity

William: From the link;

[quote]

William: What otseng provided in the words of the image you provided, is a fort in which Christians do not have to be harassed by those who are tasked with questioning the bible.
The bible is simply referred to as something “not having to prove itself true, in this setting.”

As to the shenanigans of in-house sword-play, this is all the fort provides. Simply a place where the Christian Soldiers of the denominational barracks have in which to air their particular ‘interpretations’ of a thing they believe is beyond question.

Of course, none of the interpretations can be proven as true, and can be challenged up to the point where those being challenged make protest that ‘the truth’ is being questioned in an environment designed to enable that not to happen. They conflate 'The Truth" of the bible, with “Their interpretation” of the bible.

One could even be sad about such shenanigans until one realizes the futility of feeling sorry for those who hide from truth by declaring something to be true which has never been proven true.

Their destinies await them, be these rewards in heaven, or inheriting the game play on Earth.

Forever marooned upon an Island in the midst of an ocean they will never be permitted to have access to…while remaining blissfully unaware of the true nature of their internment and praising YHWH for their good fortune.[/quote]

GM: Ideals
Ill
Inflame Emotions
The Knowledge Of
Crop Circles
“Memes”
(Exciting Changes Would Develop Naturally Enough From That)

William: From the link;

[quote]I ended the last century in a psychiatric hospital, diagnosed with schizophrenia and with little hope for recovery.

Seen as a ‘revolving door patient’ with a severe and enduring mental illness, I lived my label – not my life. I bought into the idea that schizophrenia (and the many other illnesses I was labelled with) were life-long mental illnesses. I accepted that the best I could hope for was to manage my symptoms with life-long psychiatric medication.

Life, I’m glad to say, doesn’t always turn out the way you think.[/quote]

GM: Spiritual Preparedness
Be
“Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth.”

William: From the link;

[quote]William: I have had similar experience re hypnogogic state …

Hearing footfalls on wooden floor {I was sleeping in a bunk in a building and was the only occupant at the time]
The footfalls stop outside my door - which was open and then I hear a deep laugh.
I snapped out of it [awoke] and immediately jumped out of bed and went to the doorway - no one was there [of course]

Some time later - months or even a year of two - I was at home in bed with my wife when I awoke to the same laugh and looking up I saw the entity at the end of the bed.

My reaction was layered - It was as if my body wanted to climb the walls looking to escape but my mind was clear and focused and I was aware that this part of me was way less afraid. I had the feeling that the entity was pure evil.

However, while I was directing my anger at the entity, he moved toward my side of the bed - his arms were crossed over his chest area - and as he got closer [he seemed to float rather than walk] he extended his arm out in the process of going to touch me.

We were looking each other in the eye - and it was at this moment that I somehow just knew that the entity loved me more than I had ever felt anyone love me - and knew me better than I knew myself and the love was purely unconditional

As with all my hypnogogic experiences, these began with the feeling of being forcibly held down - and when the entity began to reach his arm out to touch me, my anger assisted me in breaking the hold and I sat up and put my face directly in front of his and demanded he leave - and at that moment, I awoke and the entity was gone [or more likely - I could no longer see him.]

The whole incident took less than a minute.

The very next night, I [again in hypnogogic state] felt my wrists being taken hold of by a pair of invisible hands and I was lifted from a prone position to an upright one and when upright, I felt my arms being pushed over my chest in the same manner I had observed the entities arms crossed over his chest, the night before.

Once my arms were crossed, I felt the invisible hands let go of my wrists and it was then that I realized I was not in my body - this was my first conscious OOBE. It felt wonderful…[/quote]

GM: Embarrass
Jehovah
Enchanted
Platonic Solids

Vulnerability
“Love is insidious to hate”
F4

William: [quote]6) In depth: Focus 4
The Next step inwards is Focus 4 of consciousness. Once you have finished your physical world experience and have spent some time in F3 adjusting back to subjective reality again, you will at some point be ready to switch back to Primary Focus 4. F4 is where things really start getting interesting!

Once we engage with Focus 4, we become our ‘Wider Selves’. I don’t like using the term ‘higher self’ as you have no higher or lower self. You are you; it’s just that you have focused your attention from your F4 perspective to a narrow F1 perspective for the purpose of experiencing the physical world. When you engage F4, you are engaging your full perspective once again.
Those whose Primary Focus is F4 have no form at all. They exist as energy essences, or what we might call a point of consciousness. I can’t really tell you how many people are resident in F4, but it is certainly a huge number in human terms. I’m not sure how many people will remember the kids TV sci-fi series of about 30 years ago, or so. It was called Captain Scarlet and you had what were known as the Voice of the Mysterons. They were these mysterious beings that would talk to you out of nowhere. Well, that’s a bit like how it is communicating with people who live within Focus 4.

So what’s Focus 4 like? Well, you need to realise that F4 is nothing like F1, F2 or F3. It’s unique. You phase into what feels like a huge interconnecting communications network. In a way it’s like plugging your computer into the Internet. But you are plugging your mind into an infinite network of other minds. There is, of course, a LOT more to it than that. But in a nutshell that’s the simplest explanation I can come up with. While it is an exciting thing to do, I have to mention that it is not for the feint of heart, or for anyone who is not totally grounded in themselves mentally.

The “problem” you might say, is you can get to feeling like you have “lost your own mind”.
Thing is, we get so used to having only ourselves in mind. And communicating in this area is fully mind-to-mind. So what you do is merge your mind with another mind or minds (now multiple merging is really freaky, lol) and you communicate via thoughts, imagery, feelings, and so forth, in ways that are appropriate for the subject matter you are communicating about.

In a sense, though, it feels like someone is “invading” your mind, and the more egotistical parts of you may battle against it. With me it took about a hundred attempts before I became comfortable with the process.

The Graduates that Monroe talks about in his work about must surely be people who have adopted Focus 4 of consciousness as their Primary Focus. I can see no other explanation. I am also convinced that Monroe touched on Focus 4 quite a number of times during his experiences but for some reason the penny didn’t quite drop with him. With me, it was my frustration in my attempts to go “beyond” F27 of his model that led me into the discovering of Focus 4 of consciousness. Not that I actually saw it as Focus 4 at that time. The label came later. But it was obvious that the area was a completely different area to the Transition Area of focuses 23 through 27 of the Monroe model.

As I have said, there are many, many people resident within Focus 4. Pure energy essences you might call them, that you can tap into. These people are quite knowledgeable and do come across as kind of “god-like” you could say. But that’s only because they are subjective energy essences that exist primarily as a point of consciousness, so to speak. When we each (for want of a better word) “complete” our current movement through consciousness, or as Monroe was saying “graduate”, we too will reside within Focus 4 solely as an energy essence, or a point of consciousness. This is simply part and parcel of adopting Focus 4 as your Primary Focus, instead of Focus 1 or Focus 3. But I guess people in the past have just misunderstood what’s what.
If I had come across Focus 4 before Freda and Harath (my guides) had given me a detailed briefing of what to expect, then even I could well have mistaken my interactions as some kind of communication with divine being(s). Because that’s precisely the way they come across. They radiate a kind of energy that tends to turn you to emotional jelly. But they are not “gods” as such. The energy they radiate is merely a product of adopting Focus 4 as your primary focus. If any of us chose to do the same, we would radiate the same energetic signature. Well, that is what I am told. I won’t actually know until I try it myself, of course. :slight_smile:

I should point out here that I have also discovered people in the Wider Reality who have adopted a kind of ‘semi-F4’ state; people in this state are kind of half in F4 and half out of it, so to speak. They can also come across as kind of ‘god-like’ if you come into contact them without knowing what’s going on. Again, it’s due to the energy signature.

The strange thing is, we actually are now resident as a point of consciousness within Focus 4. We have not in any way “left” Focus 4. What we have done is to adopt a different Primary Focus for the purposes of our experience. You can imagine it as one continuum of consciousness that extends, like a telephoto lens, if you like, from Focus 4 through to Focus 1. What we objectively view as “death” in subjective energy terms is an objective translation of the action of a person shifting their Primary Focus from Focus 1 to Focus 3. After your life within Focus 3 you, in a manner of speaking, die again, when you shift your Primary Focus from Focus 3 to Focus 4. And that completes your cycle, you could say.

Note: I have to be wary of using terms such as beginning or end, because when you are speaking within the context of Focus 4 these terms simply don’t exist. From the point of view of Focus 4, your life here is a movement that you initiate in consciousness for the purposes of your experience.

How Focus 4 fits in with the rest of our system:
As I have said before, we in our F4 states decided to create this physical universe (and lots of others besides), all for the purpose of allowing us varied opportunities for new experiences. When it comes to setting up a physical world system like our physical universe, certain “supply lines” and “structures” have to be put into place. Each physical world system has 3 basic areas of consciousness that ultimately “connect” to Focus 4. So the “main” area or ultimate creative source, is Focus 4. This area is common to all the physical worlds that are “connected” to it. Focus 4 is what you might call an “umbrella” area, and the other 3 areas of each physical world within our system are “nested” within that overall umbrella.

So say you had Focus 4 and 100 physical-world realities. Note: there are actually an infinite number of other physical-world realities within our whole system. But here let us say there are just 100.

Each physical reality has a Focus 1, obviously, because physical reality is Focus 1. So there are 100 Focus 1’s, together with 100 Focus 2’s and 100 Focus 3’s. Each of these areas is nested within one Focus 4.

The best way of thinking of Focus 4 in my opinion, is to think of it as the ultimate creative source of all that exists within our entire system. In other words, all the original plans, archetypes, models, etc., etc. of all the physical realities “connected” to Focus 4, are held within this area.
Focus 3 is a Transition Area that is reserved for people “returning” from their physical experience. People generally have to go through a period of shaking off all the belief constructs they brought into objective reality during their physical experience, to enable them to merge fully with the subjective reality of F4 again, at which point they can decide what to experience next. Focus 3 also has sections that serve as what could be termed areas of our “collective unconscious” but for our purposes, thinking of it as a Transition Area will suffice.

The original archetypes held in Focus 4, that are to do with all the potential states and probabilities possible within our particular physical dimension, are “downloaded” into Focus 2. What people then do is pick and choose whatever actions they fancy and “play” with them within their area of Focus 2.

Essentially, the action of doing this creates a pool of individual probabilities within Focus 2, and each person in question decides which of these probabilities to bring into objective reality, i.e. bring into Focus 1.

In other words, each individual creates their reality subjectively within Focus 2, and then they “insert” it into Focus 1 on an ongoing basis.

Please note: not all physical realities are built on the same basis. Not all physical realities, for example, incorporate emotions like we do. So the potential states and probabilities possible for other physical dimensions will naturally vary. Therefore, each physical reality will have a correspondingly different set of potential states and probabilities “downloaded” into their Focus 2 area. But the ultimate source for all these potential states and probabilities is Focus 4.

The 4 areas of consciousness are NOT distinctly separate. They are intertwined immeasurably, and each area is associated with particular actions, explorations, and/or movements in consciousness; while being fully connected to, and interacting with, each of the other areas.
Above all, I would say that there are two humongous challenges in thinking associated with Focus 4 of consciousness, as follows:

1) It is an area of purely subjective reality. So nothing actually exists as an objective observable form. To feel your whole sense of ‘body’ totally disintegrate is not something you forget in a hurry. :slight_smile: This is why I do not recommend beginners attempt Phasing to focus 4. There are no ‘dangers’ don’t get me wrong. But the effects are mind blowing and I do not say this lightly. Seeing my whole physical life as a concept changed my outlook on life significantly overnight. The notion of concepts is one that you will have to fully grasp in order to make headway in F4.

In F4, everything is to do with subjective concepts and F4 is the source of all concepts that eventually manifest in objective reality. You can decide to merge with the underlying subjective energy that forms the concept of anything you care to think of and experience being that thing, or more correctly, the concept of that thing. You can experience being the concept of a flower, a rock, a cloud, an ant, or a human being. For the really adventurous, you can also experience more abstract concepts, like being a sound (this is fun!), or a day of the week - that’s right, you can experience the concept of ‘Tuesday’! There is no end of concepts that you can engage with - I told you it was freaky!

2) It is an area of simultaneous time, as opposed to linear time that we experience within this physical reality. So everything that is about to happen, has happened and is happening, is all happening at once within the same moment (within infinity everything happens an infinite number of times). This means of course that there is no death, no beginning or ending: everything just IS. However at the same time, there is ever-expanding consciousness. Hey, it’s hard to get your head around, but who said infinite reality and the prospect of ever expanding consciousness would be easy! It’s all part of the fun!

Ultimately, sampling F4 consciousness can be a very rewarding experience when you get it right. Because then all your Wider Self is laid open for you and you can revel in the excitement and the enjoyment of it all. Stand transfixed by the sheer awesomeness of it all. Find out who you truly are. Know there is no death. Know that life is just one continuous cycle of knowing that has always been. Know that there is only ever-expanding consciousness. Engage the concept of Infinity. Become that concept within Focus 4 and you will never be the same person again. Imagine the sheer ecstasy of a million orgasms all happening at once. Those are the kind of sensations Focus 4 gives you, and that’s just scratching the surface!
~Frank Kepple Resource[/quote]

GM: Coming closer to ourselves
‘Lack of empathy’

William: From the link;

GM: Earth teachers (physical) discover the way to the Grand Portal via the Tributary Zones
Get The Gist Of It
“Is it not the quality of the message that counts, rather than the name of the entity the message comes from?”
“Is OOBE like ‘coming up for air’”
(“What separates privilege from entitlement is gratitude.”)
A programmed reality that is not real
Okay - facts are great.
Yahweh
Antic
“Humans are humans and there is a history of violent furious reaction to the situation we are in. Because we are effectively trapped in our individuate states, yet nature Herself makes it that we cannot survive independently of each other, this apparent contradiction feeds those fires of discontentment.”
Yes - I Hear You
(Not by flinging woo at it.)
Dream Guides
“Opinion is that which has yet to be established as a matter of fact”
If memory serves me well
Mother Wound
Conscious agencies combined
Collective Soul
“Motor Man why your running, running on overdrive what lies ahead is coming ain’t no way you can step aside ain’t no way you can run and hide”
Imposed Appropriates
Researching
(Contact With)
Incarnation
“Hellish”
Understand few reach self awareness
Radiant
Future Self
Shadow
Augment [make (something) greater by adding to it; increase.]

“Information”
True Self
The Sensation Is Thrilling…And Freeing
Got The Picture
“Belief”
In The Flow
The Never Ending Story
Incorporate
“Odd”
The Story Continues - The Flow Is On
Sins
Mantra
“Non-Ordinary”
Create that path and engineer a metamorphosis.
Imperishable
Another
To Add to That
“Inside the workings of intelligence
Inter-Dependent”
Astigmatism [a defect in the eye or in a lens caused by a deviation from spherical curvature, which results in distorted images, as light rays are prevented from meeting at a common focus.]
“…it is part of the recipe of a full authentic human experience…”
Brow Chakra
“Action Station”
Childhood Nightmares

William: From the link;

GM: “Just For Giggles”

8:46

Timothy: Jesus is recorded quoting from the Hebrew Scriptures, "“It is written: ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah’s mouth.’” That would include the Hebrew Scriptures as well as Greek Scriptures.

William: Is every word which comes from YHWH’s ‘mouth’ contained in scripture?

Crickets: Chirping


William: I think Christians have placed so much importance upon the bible - even going to the extent of referring to it as 'the word of God" and justifying this belief by citing Jesus citing someone else who wrote “Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the ‘mouth of God’” yet clearly, citing something from a scroll is not saying that the scroll itself is this ‘every word of God’.
This is why I asked the question, because - clearly it cannot be the case that any book or even any library of books or indeed, all the libraries of books could contain “every word which comes from YHWH’s ‘mouth’” as this would imply that YHWH spoke all - folk somehow heard this and recorded it in what Christians refer to as their bible - [“The Word of God”] and has been mute ever since.
As grandiose as the claim is, it is still unsubstantiated religious balderdash and can be discarded as something having any relevance to truth.

To underpin that observation, if we take the Hebrew account of creation, we are informed that YHWH said ‘let there be’ - recorded as a type of shorthand by an author who does not seem to be privy to the details we now have because of scientific study into what is.

For example, [let there be] “Light”.

In basic terms, “light” is that which allows us to see what darkness might hide from our awareness yet we know in todays age, so much more about the properties of light and if we are to presume that the one who created light knows everything to do with light, then we also know that to ‘speak’ that into existence would involve complexities beyond the simplicity of invoking light an ‘hey presto’ there it is!

So, since the bible does not tell us the complexities we can be sure that the bible does not contain every word ever spoken by YHWH, and that this belief is the result of folk wanting their holy book to be regarded as something far more than it actually - truthfully - is.

Words YHWH might speak, therefore, can be found elsewhere. Even in the very quintessence of the individual.
Even in the formation of these Generated Messages :slight_smile:


140622
It is just one of those things.
Systematically suppressed

SCLx11 + select last LE per shuffle
Mothers Milk - Leg Hold Traps - Becoming whole - Science & Spirituality - The Never Ending Story - https://news.berkeley.edu/2017/06/13/new-evidence-that-all-stars-are-born-in-pairs/ - Entities of Particular Belief Systems - Chaos Really Is Illusion - Handing out sweets… - Couldn’t we do something about it… - The Smallest Spark

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP= The Ruru flies close over your head - Dysfunctional [not operating normally or properly. unable to deal adequately with normal social relations.]

William: “Intelligence recognises patterns – watch your step” [Approaching the Divine.]

7:02

GM: I Spy With My Eye
The Spirit of The Planet
Given
Be here now

William: From the link;

[quote]Sceptic Agent: Again, there is nothing magical. All the steps to get from a very small object close to “time zero” to now are demonstrated to various degrees.

William: Have scientists shown it to be true that one can condense great amounts of matter into a small thing and then release that matter and watch it return to what it was before being condensed?

Because that is the theory we are expected to believe is true.

Demonstrating to “various degrees” does not a truth make.

Sceptic Agent: You’re just here to keep repeating the lie that it is magical.

William: How can it be I am lying, when obviously the ‘explanation’ itself has all the ingredients of the magical expounded as some ‘most likely’ theory?
Your accusation is akin to my pointing out that a magician isn’t using real magic only to be told by the magician that I am lying because it IS real magic.

But we know through experience that a magicians tricks simply appear to be magical because we don’t know how it was done.

Since the same applies to the theory of a mystical object - just because we do not know how it was done, shouldn’t give us reason to exclaim magic.

Sceptic Agent: And I doubt you can come up with an alternate explanation that actually explains things.

William: I already have done - it is simply a matter of explaining things without invoking any magical elements to such theory.

It cannot be the case that something so tiny as to almost not exist itself, has the capabilities to produce the universe, because that is magical thinking.
Therefore it must have to be that space existed in an undisturbed state, and something profoundly immense happened which caused a disturbance and subsequent formation of objects.[/quote]

GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=403205#p403205
Illuminating
To Be Continued…
William: From the link;

[quote]TGA: Actually there is no cognitive dissonance. Since I am convinced that even if there is a creator deity, it has nothing to do with religion, there is not much at stake. It is something to muse about from time to time. But there is no practical consequence.

One additional reason I prefer the label agnostic to atheist is that there are certain atheists, not many but some, who like to think that there are only two sides to everything - fundamentalist religiosity or militant anti-religion. Not so far as I can see on this site, but it is definitely the case in some other places.

The “Five Proofs” of Aquinas for the existence of God did not lead to the Christian God. That part was to be taken on faith in divinely revealed knowledge, not reason. But from what we know today of the universe, rational non-faith arguments in favor of God lead away from the Christian God. Again, why I think religious and non-religious is a more useful division.[/quote]

GM: One is not wrong
Shadow Volunteer
Fanciful
Dream Guides
Faster Than Light
Charge
Outposts of Form
Altruistic Behaviour
The Smallest Spark
The Ruru flies close over your head
I Will
Not a Problem!
“No thought about fate or of ending up late Yet I still like to think where I’m going”
Learn how to deactivate all internal triggers…
Measure
“I Think We Can Safely Say
I Suppose That It Is Possible”
Authenticity
Astral Guides
Significance
Group/Family
Look Closely
New Shifts In Thinking
“Get out of the way”
A very useful fiction
Believing in fearful imagery
Gods Gift
Odd
The Deeper Reality
“What I like about it, is that it gives one more scope in which to work within…”
Regarding
Tug Of War
Active Dreaming
16-20-12-09-03-11-08
Everything is The Expression Of The Creator
“From the perspective of an evolving God-Mind, what was once acceptable behavior becomes unacceptable, signifying change.”
Google
“Observing Without Judgement”

William: “The ability to observe without evaluating is the highest form of intelligence” – Indian philosopher Jiddu Krishnamurti.
and
Q: What does it mean to observe without Judgement?

A: Become the observer of your judgements. Notice when you are judging yourself and others. Notice things without making a judgement of those things. Notice people without making a judgment of them.

GM: Beyond Focus 4

William: [quote]7) Beyond Focus 4: Other systems
I have been asked several times if there is anything ‘beyond’ Focus 4. The answer is, to my knowledge, within our particular system there are just 4 Primary areas. But consciousness doesn’t end there. Consciousness is infinite. There may well be an infinite number of other systems either like ours or perhaps wildly different. Nobody to my knowledge knows anything about these potential other systems.

Monroe talks of ‘Focus 34/35’, but as I have said earlier, I believe that Monroe was experiencing something else. I believe his F35 experiences were actually relating to areas of our Wider Physical, where alternate physical dimensions (within our F1 to F4 system) seem to converge. Ha ha, no wonder I couldn’t find it!

The interesting aspect about these other physical worlds within our system and the weird thing about them, is that they all occupy the same physical space. The actual characteristics of the different physical dimensions within our system can be wildly different but they all have this one thing in common, in that they occupy the same space. Anyhow, what ‘separates’ them, if you like, are these Trans-Dimensional areas in consciousness that allows each physical universe to overlay on one another.

Now, I have it on good authority that it IS possible to ‘travel’ between Trans-Dimensional areas; when I say travel I mean actual physical travel. It is also possible to do this non-physically as well, so I am told. So my theory is that these UFO sightings might in fact be a kind of ‘bleed through’ from another Trans-Dimensional area: an area that has people living within it who have already learned how to design some kind of craft with the ability to travel between physical dimensions.

Anyway, back to the potential for other systems outside of our own F1 to F4 model:
From reading Monroe’s later work, I wonder where the heck he was sometimes. He was way out, but not in Focus 4 terms. There was something else. Seriously, I reckon he was about to attempt to step into another system of consciousness from Focus 3: entering into an ‘Extra-Dimensional’ state that is outside of our F1 to F4 system completely: that is what I have been trying to study for ages, the possibility of these Extra-Dimensional areas. I reckon that is why his physical was put at risk. Okay, I’m guessing now, I admit, but I am going to completely retrace his footsteps in the future.

If he were trying to enter another dimension totally, i.e. another system, then that is just incredible. That is not Focus 3, 4 or 5, that is just completely into the unknown…and I mean total unknown. Unless he was attempting to enter Focus 4 while holding a complete objective knowing of that fact. That would just be crazy. You’d just be short-circuiting every subjective energy circuit that ever was. I doubt anyone could have the objective will to do that; just too many natural laws against you.

I just wonder what on earth he found and what secrets there are still to be unlocked from Monroe. I’m going to begin again from page one and work through it until that final piece of the jigsaw falls into place. ~Frank Kepple Resource


[/quote]

GM: It is a hard place for flesh to dwell.
Builder:
“Well Its A Start”
Metamorphosis
From Prison To Paradise
It appears to come from a desperate place - like with the clutching of straws.
“Tonight the stars shine as I step out of time As I step into the great unknown”
“Yes We Can”
Remember who you are
Source Codes
The Third Eye

William: From the link;

[quote]Neruda Interview Five
Fearlessness
It is just one of those things.
Something Mystical To Be In Awe Of
Hint
Intelligent
A Clean Channel
When Done Say “Done”[/quote]
William: This link came up yesterday as well…where Dr. Neruda is speaking to Sarah;

[quote]Dr. Neruda: “Whatever it is, it’s important to know what’s behind the deception… to look with sober eyes on the truth. It may not be a beautiful picture to be sure, but how else do you realize your own truth until you know the truth of the big picture? So, however screwed up it seems, it is an inception point for the individual to redefine themselves.
“Would you rather stay in the illusion of a soul in a human body that will be saved by God and ascend into heaven and hang out with angels who strum harps? That whole idea is repulsive once you know this. That picture is based on separation and selfishness and lack of empathy and understanding. Or, you can simply say it’s all a big illusion, including the notion that we are infinite beings, and that when you die, you’re done.
“The part of this new picture that is promising is that we exist infinitely despite the fact that we have been suppressed and enslaved. We also can play a role in supporting this redefinition of the human being through our thoughts and behaviors. And, maybe most importantly, we have the WingMakers—our future selves—providing us with evidence that I AM WE ARE prevailed.[/quote]

GM: Mutual Dutiful Expression
Thinking Allowed
Thoughts
Self-compassion
Use Heart
Vortex
Friendship is an agreement between individuals to support one another in any way they can, for mutually beneficial results.
Map Carvers
Equal System
What Do You Like About It?
The rich world of conscious experience
Okay Afterwards
Fires
You Are Nobodies Victim - Ever.
A cultural touchstone
Christendom:
“Well That Settles It”
“Make”
Is a Constant
Working with the simulation
Experiences.
Plan
Yep - That’s What I’m Talking About…
Gratitude
Choose What to Pay Attention To
We Exist Infinitely
“Tell me what you’re ganna do tell me where you’re ganna go tell me what you’re going through or do you even want to know?”
…Like being pushed out from a stinky hole, can have one develop a bad self-complex…
Without Judgement
The Generated Messages
In Out and All About
“A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage”
The Roles
Connections

Golden nugget
Pineal Gland
Cats Whiskers.
Secure
Look inward
Evolutionary Game Theory
Coherence
Blend
Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax. the elevation of someone to divine status.]
Optimum Health Appreciating
Access
Point of Contact
It is obviously in line with providence…
Entity
“It is a tough ask”
“That’s the way I fire up”
:slight_smile:
Earth teachers (physical) discover the way to the Grand Portal via the Tributary Zones

William: From the link;

[quote]William: What I am learning from this MGSystem is that “it” is not about me or you but about allowing for opportunity for any otherwise intelligent consciousnesses to impute their intelligence into the mix.

Re non-theists who are opposed to the idea of their being an overall mind behind [invisible/not easy to detect in] our visible Universe - I would say that they do themselves a disservice in resisting contact with said mind.[/quote]

GM: What Is The Point?
"Such reduces the opportunity of conflict re interrelation opinions. "
I am not here to judge but to help
Personal growth
Equals
“Annoy
Audience”
Contemplation
On and off
Gift
No Doubt about It
‘If only’ it wasn’t in the too hard basket…which fortunately it actually isn’t.
Radiant
Minor Arcana [9 of Wands]

William: 9 of wands tarot meaning;
Resilience, courage, persistence, test of faith, boundaries
The Nine of Wands shows an injured man, clutching a wand. He looks over his shoulder towards the eight wands that loom over him. He seems weary and worn, as though he has already been through a battle and now must face additional challenges with the presence of these eight wands. As a Nine, though, this is his final challenge before reaching his goal; he must endure this last test of his strength and character before reaching the finish line.

GM: The Overlords [Childhoods End]

William: [quote]Earth and the Overlords
In the late 20th century, the United States and the Soviet Union are competing to launch the first spacecraft into orbit, for military purposes. When vast alien spaceships suddenly position themselves above Earth’s principal cities, the space race ceases. After one week, the aliens announce they are assuming supervision of international affairs, to prevent humanity’s extinction.

They become known as the Overlords. In general, they let humans go on conducting their affairs in their own way. They overtly interfere only twice: in South Africa, where, some time before their arrival, apartheid has collapsed and been replaced with aggressive persecution of the white minority; and in Spain, where they put an end to bull fighting. Some humans are suspicious of the Overlords’ benign intent, as they never visibly appear. The Overlord Karellen, the “Supervisor for Earth,” who speaks directly (behind a one-way glass viewscreen) only to Rikki Stormgren, the Secretary-General of the United Nations, tells Stormgren that the Overlords will reveal themselves in 50 years, when humanity will have become used to their presence.

Stormgren smuggles a device onto Karellen’s ship in an attempt to see Karellen’s true form. He partially succeeds, is shocked by what he sees, and chooses to keep silent. Five decades after their arrival, the Overlords finally reveal their appearance: large bipeds that resemble the traditional Christian folk images of demons, with cloven hooves, leathery wings, horns, and barbed tails.[/quote]

GM: Sovereignty
“It’s not the years in your life that count. It’s the life in your years”
Reflection
Soul Groups
Wish
“Every Conceivable Detail
Mindful
Universal Intelligence”
Duality.
“Have A Look At This And See What You Come Up With”
(We Can Do Magic!)
Science and Spirituality
Etymology [the history of a word or phrase shown by tracing its development and relationships
Common Ground
Sola Scriptura [by scripture alone, is a Christian theological doctrine held by most Protestant Christian denominations, in particular the Lutheran and Reformed traditions of Protestantism, that posits the Bible as the sole infallible source of authority for Christian faith and practice.]
Dysfunctional
Far-Flung
Sharing is part of that process
Inspection
Think In Terms Of…
Development/Growth
The Things You Do…
Important
The Future Creates the Present
One is not wrong
Unfolding Status Quo
All The World
Behind The Scenery
“The only thing the Holy Ghost is unable to forgive, is that which individuals are unable to forgive of themselves
The Law of Attraction”
Falling asleep
Release shame
Avatar
“Ugliest
EQ”
From First Principles
Incarnation
What Are The Chances
Tempting Vision
Contemplative
Smart Phone
Knowledge Required to Resolve Uncertainty
Okay…
“Dragons”
Central Intelligence Agency
Virtues
Dare greatly
“I think therefore I am, therefore who am I?”
In the Mind
Dream work
All That We Are.
Group Dynamics
Gentle
Illuminate
Be real
The Human Brain
Superior Credibility
Higher Self Dream Guide

The Overarching
Pulse
Small
Holy Matrimony
Hidden Treasure
Training the mind
Communication Techniques
Your World F2+F4
Untrue
See-Through
Incendiary [(of a device or attack) designed to cause fires. tending to stir up conflict.]
Perhaps we can deconstruct some of these pernicious views. [having a harmful effect, especially in a gradual or subtle way.]
Other Ways of Using Your Lists
Witch Woman of The Cat Realm


Construction
Selfish Attitude
Present over perfect

Consensual
Tetrahedron
Cyborg Anthropology
Gnosticism
Around The Campfire
The Nature of This Place

William: From the link;

[quote]William: It does not appear - from a non-bias position - that theists are more angry than non-theists .

Humans are humans and there is a history of violent furious reaction to the situation we are in.
Because we are effectively trapped in our individuate states, yet nature Herself makes it that we cannot survive independently of each other, this apparent contradiction feeds those fires of discontentment.[/quote]

GM: Invention isn’t actually what is going on though. Realization is what is occurring.
Walk
A cultural touchstone
Self-acceptance
Fearless
And
Would you agree with this assessment, so far?
The way of knowledge
Morality filters are created through…?
“Smarter Than The Average
Coincidence
Making Steady Progress”

William: Yes - given the evidence I would agree with that assessment.

GM: “Intelligence recognises patterns – watch your step” [Approaching the Divine]

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William: Whether the communication is chemical or sound or some other thing, what is being communicated is only useful if its message is received and understood.[/quote]

JoeyKnothead: And so I propose it’s less about understanding a message, and more about otherwise mundane chemical processes.

William: In that, are you proposing that intelligence [understanding a message] is more about the chemical process than any intelligent understanding one might have about the process?

Are you aware that the brain interprets the information gained through the bodies nervous system and that the interpretation itself does not describe the fundamental nature of the reality being experience in this manner?

This is to say, that what the brain conveys to conscious intelligence through the chemical processes being employed is not an accurate account of fundamental realty.

This being the case, is it not a step backwards to credit more to the mundane chemical processes than to the intelligence able to understand the message?

And if the message being understood is that “the brain interprets the information gained through the bodies nervous system and that the interpretation itself does not describe the fundamental nature of the reality being experience in this manner” - while less mundane, more the step in the better [intelligent] direction?


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Dreamed Up By Yours Truly
There’s always one, isn’t there
What The Creator thinks – becomes

SCLx11 + select last LE per shuffle
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1067058#p1067058 - Self-respect - William carries on with his calculations - Matthew Twenty Two , Forty - Precipitate - The Human Interface - Eigengrau - Luminous - Unfolding Status Quo - The Celestine Prophecy - Couple

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP=“I think it was an ambush or surprise attack” - Aye…A name I call myself. :slight_smile:

William: I suppose you think you are being funny… :stuck_out_tongue:

8:44
Gm The Unknown Knowable
Green Chemistry
Breakthrough
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1069223#p1069223

William: From the link;

[quote]Pillar: Genesis 2:7 defines a soul/living being as “dust from the ground” combined with the “breath of life”. When one dies, the flesh returns to being “dust”, and the “breath of life”, returns to the “LORD GOD”, who had “formed man”. Without the body of flesh, the “spirit” cannot talk, walk, taste, or lead a band. The spirit survives with God, at least until the great white judgment, but it doesn’t constitute a “soul”/living being.

William: This aligns with the idea that a “soul” is a receptacle device which is used to store the Data of Experience [DoE] of individuate Human Beings.

The transference of DoE is actually real-time 24/7 and the storage is done elsewhere than the Human Instrument [HI]. The capacity of the HI to store data is limited and what we think of as our ‘memories’ are largely accessed from the storage facility outside of the HI’s ability.

When the HI dies, the Spirit which animated the flesh is released and joins the DoE it produced while animating the HI.

The DoE altogether is the blueprint of the character-personality that was created through the process.

The Spirit along with the DoE is processed by the Main-Spirit [The LORD - Yahweh] to which all Spirits are connected and then assigned to whatever the collected DoE reveals it necessary for it to be next placed.[/quote]

Gm The House of Science
Eschatological [relating to death, judgement, and the final destiny of the soul and of humankind.]
“Consciousness and Reality”
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1067058#p1067058

William: This link has been selected twice already, in this GM.
From the link;

[quote]William: So if you don’t know what morality is, how is it you place expectation on any being who can teach it to you, to the point you are willing to worship said being?

Even that neither of us appear to be clear or agree with what worshiping something actual means/consists of re action.

My own relationship forming with the Cosmic Mind involves setting up ways of communicating and allowing it opportunity to speak for itself.
In that, I have learned to avoid bringing into that relationship pre-conceived/learned ideals/ideas of ‘what morality is’ and do not base my expectations and personal commitment on moral issues, but on intelligent loving communion and results therein.

It is that communion which I have great regard for, in that, over the many years said relationship has been developing, “The Cosmic Mind” has proven itself worthy of my utmost respect and support which is as close a definition of “worship”, as I so far understand.

Essentially a key element in that relationship has been my shutting up and listening - and in doing so, I have -initially struggling - had to let go of those pre-learn hand-me-down instructions [morality-based and otherwise] I held close prior to said relationship developing and taking off.

I can’t say that this did not include emotional pain as sometimes we humans do make beliefs precious to the point these become part of who we are, and the tearing away from those things can - indeed - be quite psychologically painful.

Yet, still necessary if one wants to engage…heart to heart mind to mind. Thoughts are forts, and some walls just had to come down/be dismantled/transformed…[/quote]

Gm The Power Of…
“A type of ‘leg-up’ but no more or less than that”
Good and Evil
Reminiscent
“Unhappy”
The Space Rock which caused an extinction event on Earth
Bias
Couple

William: Is that to say - "interpreting this reality experience through the filter of “good and evil” is a bit like how one would feel if a space rock came along and destroyed all the work one had previously achieved on the planet?
This would no doubt leave one with an unhappy feeling.

Gm I think it was an ambush or surprise attack
Fireside Friend
“Life is my predestiny - Providence is God to me”
It is obviously in line with providence…
“Stand up
Realm of Remembrance
Permanence
Something you cannot change”
Atman
Help
The Story Continues - The Flow Is On

William: So…along the lines of 'how sad. Never mind. Grab ones bootlaces and haul ones butt up off of the pavement of despair. Get on with it." and Atman [the spiritual life principle of the universe, especially when regarded as immanent in the individual’s real self.] helped/helps that process…

Gm We All Like To Play Games
“These things have been given to me, now what to do with these things…”
Can You Imagine…
Freeing the soul
Dirt
Mind
The Forerunner:
“The Mind is a planetary phenomenon”
Courage
“How to get this to happen on a planetary scale is the thing…”
The Trinity of Love
The Playground of Gods gods
(Aye…A name I call myself.) :slight_smile:
Human Drama
It can bite and scratch so one has to be careful
“Language itself is not the problem. but how we are taught to use language as a major means in which to self-identify incorrectly…thus we flitter and bounce or alternatively cling to the walls of our unwillingness to understand ourselves as we truly are… hiding from that knowledge behind facades of personality we clothe our awareness with…”
Teddy Naysayer:
Examples
Phenomenon
“Transforming The Anger Energy”
Particular
The Friendship Between A Grey Wolf And A Brown Bear
Before The Beginning:
“Boyhood fascination with the bullet and the gun. All those John Wayne movies said the good guys always won. Comic book commandoes glorifying war. Violence was the answer but it isn’t anymore”
The Elohim:
“No point in giving you too much to bear”
Pineal Gland
Relationship
The Data of Experience:
“Leave room for nature”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(Gnosticism)
“Does the possibility that being unable to detect something as existing, allow for the right to include zero as representing something real, which is not?”
What Is That You Are Playing With?
Spring Loaded
Transferring your awareness
The Law of Attraction
Cataphatic [(of knowledge of God) obtained through defining God with positive statements.]

9:03

Q: What is the most reasonable way to sort information?

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A complex and tricky undertaking…

SCLx12 + select last LE per shuffle
Transformed - In The Team of the Collective - “This transformation of the entity is the pathway into wholeness and the recognition that the entity model of expression is a composite of forms and the formless that is unified in one energy, one consciousness.” - Enough To Make Me Wonder - Time for Soul to Drive - Family of origin - True Colors - What can I say, except “Thank You” - Curtailed - Team - Start From Scratch - Acceptance - Wild freedom

RSP = SCLx2 + P&P + re

AP= Bond Wild freedom

William: The meaning of life
Water the garden
Milky Mother
Sophistry [a fallacious argument.]
Querulous [complaining in a rather petulant or whining manner. ]
Idiosyncratic [peculiar or individual.]
“A temporary façade”
Act the giddy goat
Illumination
Self-Reflection
Known/Revealed
Bond Wild freedom

8:35
GM: The Overlords [Childhoods End]
GOD became Gods and Goddesses.
How to effectively deal with anger…not by ignoring it, but through understanding it and developing means by which it - as an externalized emotional-based energy - can be transformed into something more appropriate to the situation we find ourselves lost within.
"Steady as She goes… "
Fine Line
Map Carvers
Seduce
Mysteriously missing
“Remember”
And That’s Not All!
Sola Scriptura [by scripture alone, is a Christian theological doctrine held by most Protestant Christian denominations, in particular the Lutheran and Reformed traditions of Protestantism, that posits the Bible as the sole infallible source of authority for Christian faith and practice.]
“It’s not the years in your life that count. It’s the life in your years”
The Perfect Moment
Transformed
Bond
IF: there is a Cosmic Mind THEN: Eventually, any species which survives long enough to continue along with the unfolding universe will eventually discover that and invent ways in which to engage.
The Matrix
One
Bounce off
All That We Are.
Expansiveness
“We experience fear in order to give us the opportunity to overcome that which triggers the fear”
Union
“Let yourself be led”
Translate
"Changes mind when truth is presented "
Conducive to wellbeing
Discover
Your Connection With
“We Are All Becoming One”
Attitude
Nothing more sad than wasted beliefs
Child
To Be Sure
Inform
“Realm of Dreams”
It is a path already forged, ahead of human arrival
Looking For Gigs
Message
Luminous [giving off light; bright or shining.]
‘If only’ it wasn’t in the too hard basket…which fortunately it actually isn’t.
Scape
Connections
Connection:
“Standstill Contemplate
Move”
Conviction
Parity
Contentment
Manifestation


“The Planet Consciousness assess the data and transmits that assessment back to the individuate human consciousness - if not directly - then storing the data in a place where the individual can have access to it, if the individual wants the data.”
It Would Be Rude Not To
Timbre [the character or quality of a musical sound or voice as distinct from its pitch and intensity. the distinctive quality or character of someone or something]
Contemplative
Now Here
“Even in the very quintessence of the individual.”
The Vast UICDevice
One Language Intelligent Network
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1071814#p1071814

William: From the link;

GM: Select
In William’s Room

“Good and evil’ co-exist without either being dominant”
Forum [a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.]
“When In Doubt - Set It Aside”
QueenBee
Majestic Twelve
Kristallnacht [the Night of Broken Glass, also called the November pogrom, was a pogrom against Jews carried out by the Nazi Party’s Sturmabteilung paramilitary forces along with civilians throughout Nazi Germany on 9–10 November 1938.]
Privacy
What I also know is that numbers don’t lie.
Holographic Experiential Reality Simulations
Karma
Wild freedom
People Judge People
The practice of Lojong [ a contemplative practice in the Tibetan Buddhist tradition which makes use of various lists of aphorisms or slogans which are used for contemplative practice. The practice involves refining and purifying one’s motivations and attitudes.]
“We were not conscious of being a human for a time, but this does not mean that consciousness wasn’t there.”
You Are Soooo Funny
The Earths Moon
Clearness

William: I wrote this today, in answer to a question put to me. [Q: Please explain how you observe intelligence.]

[quote]I observe the fact of life on this planet, the characteristics of living things and observe through that, intelligence. Therefore - while these intricate processes may not require intelligence in a fundamental way in order to become what they become, they certainly are observed having intelligence at the near-completion of their form.

[Since intelligence is required at some point in that process, consciousness is also required at some point prior to that, in order for intelligence to become.]

We know that if we stand on the moon, and look at the planet, there is no immediate evidence of the planet being an intelligent entity, producing myriad forms of intelligent life.

It is when we get closer to it - and find life and examine life and see the intelligence therein, that we can return to the moon and observe an intelligent planet. Not because it looks any different from the way it did when we first observed it from the moon - but rather - because we accumulated a lot of information about it through closer examination, and the effect of that data in that interim, changed our original perceptions of the Earth.[/quote]

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