How to lead a life (Balanced)?

I find for the time I can remember, I always act like a pendulum. I always thought there was no real truth/morals/good just opinions and instincts; and that respect was in valuing opinions well. If someone says america is bad I say they are good with just as much degree of zeal, if they say america is good I say america is bad.

For a long time I felt guilty if I let someone walk away without the equal knowledge of both sides of the coin, because I thought he could now be balanced. Obviously it does not work that way.

I still feel that the world I live in and love is for everyone and every thoughts, and now I think my approach was not completely wrong, but I forgot to consider the momentum of that pendulum. The ideal I aim for is not to be equally opposite, but to put the swing to rest eventually.

The way I currently see it, my role in all this is either to amplify the swing so they can themselves decide to put it to rest eventually (push growth) or be like gravity in my support, dampening the swing until it rests (comforting support)

So my questions are:
How to be like gravity? How to be listened when you appear simply average and without opinions? How are we to help people if we lessen the swing and lessen their personal challenges along with it?
And;
How to be like a natural frequency? How to attune to character with slightly more force, and swing left to right as needed? Is weariness the key to integral growth?

I hope my analogy makes sense.

Personally your take is interesting, especially with the German political environment and my own experience as American/German, ever since Trump became president and even before that, there is from a psychological lense an underbelly of populism tied to the excesses of materalism, for example epxloitative humour, politcal correctness is bad and freedom of speech I can say whatever I want to say and it won’t hurt anyone, as that is Truth with a capital T and not only a perspective. The aperspectivalness is good, and healthy post-modern people are able to accept the view if they see the benefit, I am still learning and studying it, as I did not think their moral frame is so good/bad focused and soul starts fundamentally at this level from Integral Psychology, and I feel as if there is a hijacking of soul as they are stuck in aperspectival madness, nothing has ever more span and depth, and explaining this in a non-judgemental way in to post-modernist is very exhausting, and moderns often work more efficiently explain the view they eventually even know it cognitively, yet say nothing about it.

What I noticed for myself works, yet feels also exhausting is you cam amplify growth, yet nudging might be better, what I personally experienced is that I pushed the envolpe to far, and a lot of ideas revolved around the common good, justice, care for all and humanity, even if they agreed to the idea, the more homogenous the group was, often the work was also even if the perspective was more post-modern somewhere around umber, as it required concepts mechnical mind and thinking, the higher perspective was more about design, the output etc. for e.g for a coding project.

The danger lies in not applying principles, as imo from my experience and reading this is years ago when stuff was not as political integral acts very principles first and not rule based, being polarizing can be good, yet it can create tension in ingroup & outgroup dynamics, I did not mind it as my entire life felt like it, and many who I personally felt were more teal, were hardcore lone wolves what a key feature was. For me wearniness only showed up when post-modernity or modern people acted without integrity often times the higher cognitive line of exchanging ideas, and adjusting to flexflow or global awareness consciouness made me feel invigorated, especially if I am disciplined I often get a second bout of energy at the end of the day or when I feel that I meet and hit my values with more integrity, and at times where I don’t feel it I rest and reflect, yet I neglected that as it was very exhausting in a relationship, and I looked for different answers.

I would notice polarities of communication and look into few principles, green is very hostile and unrelenting imo, I have never seen or experienced so much subtle sabotage or covert status games, where I looked more into subtle energy, yet that is super exhausting also. A key feature of growth for me in the vertical dimension often is hurts more bothers less, you care more, yet you get less nagging imprints of something that keeps bothering you for instance people being inattentive or very npc.

The more you attune to the heart also, you will see greens reality that would be more natural as you attune to your own needs and to the ones of others and can create boundaries etc., for me daily I realize that german thinking puts you in a strong rule/role mind with post-modern flavour that feels very slave like, often times if you truly want something and reality tests you, and you can act with non-judgement as people give tough love, as they know how that feels, yet are more attuned to their souls vocation/purpose, they will act as mentors often thought based on the premise you act autonomesly, or already have a high level of independence this was my experience.

Also check health topics, eventually to much coffee, not enough naps and sleep cycles, stuff can also just be physical, for example I noticed an overlap of adrenal fatiuge and teal arrogance shadow, and I am still working that out energetically, I had to realize as I meditated with Shinzen and he is jewish and he listend to the most anti-semite b.s possible, after meditation retreats etc. to see if it triggers him and he could be equonemous and before he got furious, I often could relate to this, due to discrimination, and the last couple of days I realized, I had to give other sentient beings love in my meditation, as I am so disgusted with humans even children as I am super sensetive to energy, and some children are just weird, and now I can think oh it’s adrenal fatigue eventually, or I simply close the window as I know they will be loud, you can also just play imo perspectival “god” to add a stage red flavour, hence you use power not force of competency with a perspective in order to evoke something in others to follow you, yet you will act as a leader and people make you responsible to some degree.

This is all my perspective, at times also abstinence can be good instead of moderation to achieve something. Also most don’t care to be the change in the world, at times conserving energy and directing it to projects of self-transendence or systems/model building or solving complex problems, self-care etc. is better, and to work on ones vision. Growth can feel weary, yet if you feel hollow and empty at best connect to the heart and find purpose in what you do irregardless of what it and renew vision/purpose. You can simply also look at both sides of the coin, and create that extra effort, to create a piece of work/artwork that is unique and rich of perspectives, you not really swing the pendelum left or right, you’d simply lift the pendelum to a higher octave (to use integeral lingo here for the first time…) and engage in the polarity at a new vertical development or depth, yet that can also be over their heads, if developmental lines don’t match, this is what I mean with weariness, often people yearn to get one red line of concise explanations which can be weary for someone who looks at both sides of a coin and exchanges perspective.

Eventually looking into enneagram types which integral also teaches is good, Germany is very type 6’ish so it’s automatically does often the opposite in a counter-phobic stance and engages the polarity right when you think they don’t or they do the phobic expected they do not engage as expected with the polarity, this is imo a collective undercurrent. We have all enneagrams as typologies active and archetypes etc. I am a 4 for example in that system. I looked into other typologies as it did not feel holistic enough for me etc. and now look into BaZi system, to get subtle energy more.

I am making a presumption with countries etc. as I see the name and it sounds very German, America is very 3ish in nature go-getter attitude and professionalism tied to executing protocols, solving tasks and exellence culture and individualist, while more european countries are more collective based on identity

Video might be good:I said this all with nuance pure red power without competency etc. is not good, for instance teal will play along with status games also, yet often they are attenuated if they are cognitively teal, some have more material cravings etc.

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Thank you! I had to read this a few times, its super packed!

From what I understand it’s all in the point of you and what challenge you are facing. Because cultures and constructs are different pretty much.
I am deconstructed/in deconstruction and thats also why these questions come to me all the time. I have tried letting go and simply nudging, or pointing out errors in objective truth, but neither path made me better off.
I have seriously started to question how I see myself with this apparent apathy in face of this state of war with people, but I just wish some would let go (because they just dont have the potential for much more) while others have the fuel but even if you give a lighter they question how they relate and it just hurts.

Bothers less feels more was a great video, because it is very much the duality I face.
I am not at the level where I feel them, but instead I feel how I feel about them and my mind breaks in relation to reality. On the other hand, I also know its not on them to be consistent and true, they dont have to be because its a great journey.
Overall I think I do not want to succumb to weariness, I want to fight to communicate better at every level.

You seem to really live a life of absolute learning, which is marvelous and inspiring, but for me currently I do not have the worth you give yourself. Africans say Ubuntu, Christians say Communion, I think vertical growth is about including more consciousness in reality.

I got very philosophical on the last few ideas, but its hard to put words on it for now.

It’s all good in the end you can apply self-love/acceptance, and work on some exercises that build a positive self, your welcome, at times life is not as complicated as it seems to be, and I do the same mistake for example, yes life long learning is something I value, yet I also overdid it and I notice strains of it are coming back, often I find myself in the position of reframing phiolosophies and viewpoints to what I sense is more integral or has more sense-making capability for some it just does not work, and they just crave an energetic polarity as they are afraid to say their true opinion. It’s better to change yourself and work on yourself, instead of focusing on others, yet you can observe and learn like a hunter or warrior and distinguish wants and needs from your own.

“As you start to walk on the way, the way appears.”

― Rumi

Was a quote I saw yesterday, this might apply very well, for example also if you’re into the spiritual path it’s more benign to build a healthy self, and work on these frictions with joy.

This might very well apply, yes the more you become conscious of things how Wilbers writes about it with ROT, the more you see vertical growth that type of self-transendence is pure love and bliss at times, I’ve been pulled away countless times even now with injuries, which prevents taking massive action when it’s required and I am thinking my way through this also, with most challenges, especially if you’re young, I don’t know if this insight is helpful, yet I was at very deep ends, and recently I realized in my meditation if I can’t love humans I can just love other sentient beings, atoms, molecules as I was shocked to include them if I read Wilber right, animals obviosuly nature the manifest or unmanifest, as often the more I read the maps the more I face the challenges of my own sense-making of it, and recently the lessons of boundaries and accepting inevitabillities shows-up.

Have positive goal/vision if it breaks down you can still rebuild it, especially young if you’re healthy and young be prone to take more action something to strive towards to, life healthy, enjoy idk break the super healthy streak and eat some ice-cream and take a psychdelic or something, often times it’s what we project onto others what is in ourselves, I will do a shadow work session this weekend also about a small scenario, listen to some good music, create a vision board, I am also updating and working on these things, eventually contemplate with A.I within reason, integral A.I experiments or not, if you get access to spirit/soul and subtle and causal states and you see suffering dissolve, and face subtle dark knights, kriyas and the billions of terms that exist, it’s part of the path for you also others! Alleviating others suffering and having that type of bodhisatvah vow yet have compassion for yourself also I really hated that advice to forgive oneself, yet at times as I get a little older I realize that is the only thing you can do as nobody cares as much about you as you do at times I realize there is no point in forgiving others I forgive myself and transform the situation for myself inside or outside at best in all 4 quadrants, I looked into some stuff, also to stop the whole idea of “being a learner” and in spiritual circles more or less they talk about being a leader, and I keep having the same thoughts of years ago to be an exemplar or the change that you want to see in the world that the world needs. At times it’s better what I saw personally to see onself as a creator and a creator of value especially not a fighter of or protector and defender of value even that can happen and it’s fine! For me this mindset shift from a book and a video made me able to work with more creators and creatives and this has been of benefit also having time to contemplate and they generally were more oriented to give value to the world.

I did not watch the whole thing usually I watch this often to improve my relationships, as society can get stuck at certain things, and for instance I would still want to work with a psychologist or coach for a while on some past issues, I am confident the sources will support you, wish you the best!!

This is from integral also.

This might also be interesting I missed all of this:

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Got it, I appreciate the time you took to respond.

I actually enjoy these questions that come to me. I am not trying to resist to them (that from one of your videos) and I do as much learning as leading currently.

Again, thank you for the personal response :fist:

You’re welcome wish you the best!