I was wondering whether there is a consensus within integral theory on the death penalty and moral decision making. I was listening to the Kosmic Consciousness podcast with Ken Wilber and Tami Simon, and Ken says he is in support of the death penalty. He also says that in a moral quandary like needing to throw people out of a liferaft, he would throw out people at earlier stages of development to save people at later stages - his example was to throw out Hell’s Angels so Mother Theresa could survive.
Anyone can have their own opinions on moral decision making and any area. However, is this also the general view of the integral movement (although everyone has their own opinions, there does seem to be a general leaning in integral theory that people agree with Ken Wilber)?
I dont agree with the death penalty, and in this hypothetical moral situation, I think the most moral thing to do would be to choose who leaves the liferaft randomly. That way no one commits an atrocity against another human, and no one experiences the anguish of other people deciding that they are to die.
As I said, of course anyone can have their own opinion, but I’m wondering if this opinion is a part of the integral map.
If all Ken Wilber’s opinions simply become part of the integral map and people generally follow this map, that also seems very amber to me to simply agree with one person about this kind of thing without people exploring it for themselves. Of course, people are allowed to be amber. But I think it would be helpful for people to explore whether they are simply agreeing with a person, the research they choose to present/have found and the conclusions they draw from this research, and not realising that this does in fact come from this stage.
I am a fan of Ken Wilber and many of his ideas and the work he’s done, but I by no means agree with everything he says, and doubt there’s anyone I would agree with 100%. It’s quite worrying that someone could take this idea and present it as ‘Teal’/highly developed, simply because Ken Wilber thinks it.