Yes, I really like this perspective, mostly when I consume it or when I do it solo, I mostly do it in that type of way, eventually less archetypal as with more awareness, more archetypal energies could be filled. I do my best to follow the advice of deida, yet I might have a biological issue and eventually higher doses of magnesium could fix that,as I feel my body is craming right before a breakthrough and when I just test this stuff with less intensity, the risk of kriyas as it’s already very spiritual in nature that type of practice can come up, and my sleep utterly get’s disrupted I noticed mindfullness and whole body awareness does not disrupt sleep cycles and energy is not depleted, yet a subtle rejuvination process is happening that is invigoring. If I do it like 7-8 times in a row with eventually I feel depleted, yet in contrast to what I did as a teen, there is a stronger sense of reducing excess energy, getting back into a state of homestasis and I can work better and be more attuned and harmonized, due to X factors influencing sexual energy. Social perception, genetics, fitness, nutrition, placebo effects, meditation itself or any other type of pratice, social experience and setting, attraction factors of the setting etc.
In some settings where this perception is appreciated, yet also putting that energy to work (channeled into the sport e.g) for example in a very good sports team or friends who exchanged that type of perception or even with a partner. I feel I can often put that energy more to use, yet I made the negative experience of others wanting this type of energy for their own purposes and visions, and projected their issues and fantasies onto me in the last relationship, as she did not have any type of yoga/mindfulness practice, and I don’t think dancing sufficies for that level of awareness alone.
It was a bit weird to be in the scenario where she enjoyed the sex more than me, and I legit just enjoyed my mind etc. and she also and that was the core driver of the relationship, but we could not really act on the mutal vision, due to lack of technical expertist to make certain things happen etc.
The perspective is interesting, this is very good to talk about to a partner and have as a reference, as this Deida stuff at times is to raw and this might serve as a better introduction to create awarenss and not dive fully into vision and focus on a stable relationship, but also as potential feedback the core issue of power and transcending and transforming power into something creative through the archetypal process could be added up with a vision at the end of the awareness, what do both archetypes want to create? Even if it’s just a pornographic sessiosn, as personally I notice how my level of consciouness can arise and drop due to doing more or less consciously what you describe.
It certainly would be interested to ask the subtle level of energy, what does it want to create what is my vision and purpose to engage in that type of practice or activity? What does it contribute to, I don’t know if visionary gaze could be a term for also the hunters eye etc. But yes I like all of this!
For instance in the last relationship if we include orange lense for feedback.
- the humanizing gaze — see the person, not the performance.
- Me 10 - Her: 6-5
- the compassionate gaze — feel into what might be true beneath the surface.
- Me ? - Her: 7-6
- the reflective gaze — notice your own responses. gently.
- Me 10(to much?) Her: 4-3 or 6-7
- the relational gaze — ask how this might shape your next touch with another.
- Me: 6-7? Her: 9-10
- the archetypal / devotional gaze — witness the deeper energies at play: longing, power, surrender, creation.
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Me: very conditional I was getting aware of it 5-8 Her: 9-7 it’s pretty easy though to surrender and play a sexual archetype, but it’s harder nowadays to be a warrior and embody masculinity without being shamed by dark feminine drives or lillith…
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Adding a vision gazing, how deeply are our truest desires unfolding:
Me: 9-7 (beginning relationship) → 5-4 at the end of it, I was sand castle building as her reality clashed with mine and desires were utterly incompatible, Her: 7-9? → When it moved to 9 I just saw the core issue of vision clashes, including the perspectives above, I am pretty sure if I would’ve used this personally or with her, we or I could’ve found a solution and not the chaos I was in.
For example:
She enjoyed sex the most when I was masturbating a lot, but had issues afterwards. If I did not masturbate and engaged in it, I felt distracted by the lustyness of it, and saw it more as an act I never felt she saw the human in me, and just wanted animal lust like I felt her exes did with her, I am more of a god tripping type of person, so she lacked vision in a sense, and if I never felt that type of purity besides it came from me etc. In the end she had performance issues, and I simply did not enjoy it, as she did not get how lazy she was and how much work I did and had no respect for it, so it was utterly incompatible by vision, I am not a psychopath that can work 90h a week, and I don’t enjoy it if she only gets off when I work a lot. I just finished a book describing the core issues of it, in a more alternative way of looking at this. I did not like it that the whole family sucked on the honesty of my vision and the energy of it, and they barely saw the reality of it. I really don’t enjoy this here and I want to move there is to little respect for software and it people in ger, and I can see why, a true lack of devotional energy, as it’s co-opted by science and engineering and german it guys are also not the most masculine. Anyhow, I am still contemplating this, yet I would prefer it to do it at a different location.
The balance it generates does attract, imo but for instance service is not servility, that is the core insight I had out of the book, raw sexual energy is rare nowadays, I was pushing 130kg squats (injured) and 100+ benching at the time, and they were the most Nazi type of thing I have seen with spiritualiy to co-opt it for practical purposes the whole time, I really disliked everything I felt subtely about their choice making and thinking. It’s a false sense of service imo with little self-respect…
Anyhow this gives me more to think about than I thought thank you for the feedback…!
