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Reflections
182

Anchor Points

The Hologram of Deception

The Hologram of Deception
Yawn
Inflicting science upon a specie which is not ready for it
Theist mischief making
The Hamitic Hypothesis
Strange Desire
The Free Will Key
Suppression Matrix
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1087897#p1087897

Elephant

Asking Politely
Pot of Gold

“You’ve been a rock - For so long now I can’t even count the years that you’ve been rolling Nothing can shock or bring you down There ain’t nothing you haven’t seen - Nothing you haven’t known”
One Day Unite humanity with a living new language
Desire
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1091131#p1091131

[quote]Honestly, I don’t know what the fuss is all about. Fretting about “is there/isn’t there” a GOD, never anchored a ship in any harbor for longer than it takes to refuel and get about the business of learning.
[/quote]
Mirror-Mirror…
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1084775#p1084775

[quote]Statement: “one cannot use the scientific method as the justification for the scientific method”

Q: How - other than the scientific method - can we find out if the statement is true or false?[/quote]
A Loving Mind
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1076792#p1076792

[quote]QueenBee
Chamber Of Self - Coming From QueenBee - Open Your Heart
Giving our best - QueenBee - Get The Ball Rolling
Central Purpose - QueenBee - Achievable Alternate Realities
The Fathers ‘House - Mansions’ - QueenBee - According to Complex Jesus
Items of Interest - QueenBee - Making it up as you go along
Like a doting parent - Coming From QueenBee - Development/Growth[/quote]

The Hologram of Deception
Propel
Peaceful Messiah or militant Messiah?
The Akashic Records
Repudiate [refuse to accept; reject. deny the truth or validity of.]
Through Device
The Butterfly Effect Music to my ears Lean into it

Love is the answer
Action Station
Unlimited Knowledge
Observant
Anamnesis [recollection, especially of a supposed previous existence.]
Memorandum of Understanding

The Hologram of Deception
Abrahamic Religions
Numbers
Quantum
Delineating [describe or portray (something) precisely.]
Children
Learned
Zeros and Ones
Visions
The House of Politics
As busy as a bee
It Stands To Reason
Unconditional Earth Entity In William’s Room
Fear of the Unknown
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf

[quote]GRENADA/U.S.)WOODRUFF
still have a fear of the unknown. Last year it was who killed Bishop? Why. was he killed? Will … But there’s still so much fear in the country that, even this time last year I found fear, but now people … there is some subliminal fear, I think, of the United States in some quarters. I mean, one little guy on the beach told …

SOVIET BAN ON INFORMATION SEEN LIKELY TO BOOMERANG
about through,he building up of a fear of the '`unknown" throughout the free world and the forcing … to ascertain. Intentions Unknown policy without public debate ar always a possibility. This w under cover." … conditions? 2. If Russia.does not resort to creating e sio unknown, it tends to force the pace of rearmament …

[FIELD SERVICE REPORT- AIR FORCE ASSOCIATION] SUBJECT: INTELLIGENCE-- KEY TO A FREE AND INDEPENDENT COUNTRY
is fear of the unknown. I can’t go into details, but I can tell you that we in the CIA have several … et0e0y/1a/reri PlA Fe 0Rt7i~1 gVoRl%~4-5because dissipate misunderstandings or, fear of the unknown … for things we did or are alleged to have done. What I fear is 'that in 1990 or 1985,_ CIA Director …

[/quote]

Constructing some type of reality experience in which I could hide from the true unchangeable nature of Myself The Sensation Is Thrilling…And Freeing
No Risk
Though the Serpent rules the Shadow
See-Through
New Shifts In Thinking
Inflicting science upon a specie which is not ready for it
Expression of Astonishment
Outposts of Form

The Hologram of Deception
Investigative Realisation
It is neither good nor evil
A means of taking a neutral position on things which have yet to be proven one way or another…
Brother
Truth Without Proof Is Belief
Mother Wound
Those internal things which make one shine
The relevant scientific community
That is the truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyMtIwobqbI&t=32s [Grace Slick Vocals Isolated - White Rabbit]
The Omega Point
Incendiary [(of a device or attack) designed to cause fires. tending to stir up conflict.]
https://www.dreamviews.com/philosophy/166241-where-do-you-stand-free-will.html#post2246696

[quote]From what I can gather, even the will of a Cosmic Mind is regulated based upon the particular environment properties - although I imagine that to the Universal Mind - that would not be here nor there, a ‘problem’ and any alternate reality experience it could devise for itself would be just as awesome.

So there comes a position whereby having an illusion of free will is not a “problem” as one realizes one’s environment is also pre-destined yet at the same time appears to go on forever…[/quote]
Working Together With Love

The Hologram of Deception
Soul Groups
Responsibility
Shape
The Generated Messages
Beyond Focus 4
Witty
The Soul Eats Experience
NDE
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1070902#p1070902

[quote][Replying to myth-one.com in post #3]

[quote]John 4:24 wrote:
God is a Spirit: . . …
And when we are born of the Spirit, we become spirits, because:
John 3:6 wrote:
. . . that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
So when believers are born again of the Spirit, we will become spiritual bodied angels.[/quote]

From my own understanding [self awareness] what occurred was that humans forgot what they were [Spirit-breathed into biological matter] and identified only with the flesh-container and thought of themselves in that way - much like non-theists think of themselves as ‘nothing more than chemical reactions of the brain’…or how some Christians think ‘flesh that will be resurrected and given the ability to never die.’

Apparently these two views can both be biblically supported so perhaps the different authors were writing from the bias of their particular beliefs on the matter.

If one researches OOBEs and the like, one will find that practically everyone who ever experiences such, identify as being ‘spirit’ - a biblically supported idea, as you have pointed out - something biblical Jesus spoke of as a truth.

Those Christians who do not believe such a thing, often critique OOBEs and the like as ‘demonic deception’ a type of religious equivalent as the woo-slinging “delusional” which non-theists love to use to ‘explain’ why such experience doesn’t fit with their own particular beliefs about what they self identify as being.

Being ‘born of the spirit’ is really about coming to the realization of what one truly is rather than remaining in ignorance of that.[/quote]
You Are Nobodies Victim Ever.
Finishing What Was Started
What once acted like a Wall, became a Gateway
Questions as such a Son might be permitted to ask and be graced with answers Extra evidence is provided
Slowly and Surely Explain Think With The heart - Feel With The Mind
Self-Awareness

Data
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1089080#p1089080

Rich
Especially
We Groove Together

The Hologram of Deception
You Trust My Navigation
Through The Woo
Little Tittle
Dreamer
Stay The Course
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1073457#p1073457

The Hologram of Deception
Element One Fifteen
Making friends with your mind
Afraid of The Unknown.
Vortex
Crystal
When One is Feeling Tired
Feel The Fear And Do It Anyway
Like playing Rush
Nonviolent communication
“Sorry. Would you clarify that?”
“As I said, it is not so much how each individual interprets any particular GM - either coming from me or you or anyone else - Rather it is the fact that a message is generated.
I am not here to pick sides”

Yawn

Yawn
Inflicting science upon a specie which is not ready for it
Theist mischief making

Yawn
Optimum Health Appreciating
Sharing is part of that process
Ship
Show Your Soul
Love
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1067891#p1067891

[quote]If wisdom [and righteousness] is to be observed within this Universe, we need to be able to point out where that is. We thus have to ‘do the science’.

The following is evidence;

Wisdom is evident in The Universe existing = 466
Humans were designed to have God-consciousness = 466
When I look at my art I am looking into a mirror = 466
Discovery is finding something that exists. = 466

The fact that these word-strings add up to the same value, and coherently support the ideas being presented, is evidence of a mindful/purposeful order about The Universe …the question then being;

Q: Is it therefore acceptable to conclude that such being the case, then there is wisdom and righteousness involved in hiding the truth within the structure of the sound of human language to be unlocked by a simple number-value algorithm? [SOURCE][/quote]
Learn how to deactivate all internal triggers…
Loyalty
Graphic Changes
Conjecture necessarily precedes proof
The Harmless Enough Agenda Crowd
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1089626#p1089626

[quote]I think Gnosticism has a point in that the ‘evil’ of matter separates humans from the direct knowledge of who they are as Spiritual Beings.

Clothing ones self in matter has an evil effect on the Spiritual Being incarnate, as it is noted that if one were to observe the physical Universe from outside of it, one would see no evil unless one were to also observe evidence of Consciousness [Spiritual Being] within it and see that the consciousness is behaving evilly and even that it tries to correct its behavior, it cannot escape being evil or acting with evil intent, which is ‘bad’ for the image of divinity/spiritual beings.

That may be why Gnostics generally regard the God of the Bible as an evil Demiurge - an imposter playing the role of a substitute to the ‘real GOD’ which those captured within the physical universe are unable to see through as being an imposter.

I think it possible that the universe was created so that Spirit Entities could experience it, somewhat in the same manner as we create VRs in order to experience those - only the VRs which the gods [spirit entities] make, deliver way more realistic simulations than we are currently able to create with our computers.

It is possible that this Universe was specifically created to imprison wayward Spirit-Entities - still as a VR - essentially imprisoning their minds [consciousnesses] within it, and it being designed in such a way as it is almost impossible to discover that this is the truth of the situation.
The design ensures that no one individual has any memory of a prior existence.
This itself means that we also have no memory of any crime we might have committed which got us sentenced and cast into this particular reality experience.

I veer away from demonizing the administrator of the prison [The Demiurge as the Gnostics call YHWH] as it appears to be unhelpful to do so.
YHWH is mostly quiet, but there have been instances where he has been attributed with offering us inmates ways and means of - not escaping our sentence, but learning from it and changing our evil ways…[/quote]
Prison
Besides
Development/Growth
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1073550#p1073550

[quote]It does not appear - from a non-bias position - that theists are more angry than non-theists .

Humans are humans and there is a history of violent furious reaction to the situation we are in.[/quote]

Transforming the Anger Energy

Yawn
The Abrahamic idea of GOD
There is an art to flying or rather a knack…
The Inception Point Deciding On The Best Course Of Action

Yawn
Achievable Alternate Realities
Make It Up AS You Go Along
It is not a great answer, because we do not know that is true.
The Knowledge Of
Your Life Experience is your Journal is your ComList
Meat For The Table
No time left for a sentimental tune Wherever I’ve gone I have not left the room I am never too late I am never too soon
Regardless of what Random Selection Process is used, the result is always a coherent GM
Mapping Wholeness
Comprehend Embarrassing Advice
Self-Awareness Stuff Happens

Yawn
Balance
A Space Without A Time…
Dreaming
…Otherwise, all is hot air
The Existence of Ability to Interact With The Imagination The Eigengrau Mind Screen
Enlighten you
Allowed
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1092991#p1092991

[quote][Replying to otseng in post #1394]

For those who are neither theist or nontheist, if something affirms that the universe is designed then the next question to ask is;

“What was it designed for?”

The answers will give some indication as to the follow-up question;

“What is the nature of the designer{s}”[/quote]

Shift Focus

Yawn
Apophenia [the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things. …]
One Whom Ought Be Inwardly Known
Do A=1
“The Heart of a Buddha
The Ruru
Far-Flung
Stay in the moment
The God of The Bible
Reaction
Distracted
Eternal Loop
One has to take care to process the thoughts of the inner critic making sure that they align with the truth.
Rainstorm”

The Heart of a Buddha = 147
[147]
A Bit Of Both Yes
Self-Awareness
Let people help
Establishment
Non-Ordinary
Interactions
The Heart of a Buddha
Translucent
Assumption
Heal Yourself
Determination

The Ruru = 111
[111]
Little Bird
A Vibration
A Mixture
Liminalism
Computer
Release shame
Santa Claus
Illusion
Time to See
Insanity
Explaining
A President
Providence
Open hearted
Slaughter
Do Not Panic
Witchcraft
Strength
Pokemon Go
The Watcher
Stubborn
Infinitude [the state or quality of being infinite or having no limit.]
A Real Beauty
A Meeting Place
Calculation
Monetary
A defunct debate
Church Bells
3D Printing
One Christ
The Ruru
Exact Science
Recovery
Somewhere
Not Right
A Purpose
Significant
Necromancy

Far-Flung = 85
[85]
Good Talk
The Devil
Separate
Mule Kick
You Are
Apophenia [the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things. …
Use Mind
Above board
Overall
Hide and Seek
Mind Games
Mollified [appease the anger or anxiety of (someone). reduce the severity of (something).]
Far-Flung
Fearless
Original
Matrix
Noetics [a branch of metaphysics concerned with the study of mind as well as intellect.]
Dr. Neruda
Presence
Anunnaki
EELRIJUE

Stay in the moment = 201
[201]
Sir Roger Penrose
The lightest planet
Walk The Talk In Love
Tributes at the gate
Stay in the moment
Sweet Vibrations
Positive self-talk
Be kind to yourself
The space Jacko lantern
Flowers for Lindy
To Be Sovereignty

The God of The Bible = 143
Panpsychism
World Wide Web
A safe pair of hands
That’ll Be The Day
Quantum Field
The Purpose
Mothers Milk
Self-mastery
Consider This
Peaceful Messiah
Contentment
Homeostasis [the tendency towards a relatively stable equilibrium between interdependent elements, especially as maintained by physiological processes.]
Elude Tabula Rasa
Awake and Waiting
Precognitive [having or giving foreknowledge of an event.]
The Path of Faith
A Grateful Heart

Reaction = 85
[85]
Fearless
Separate
Anunnaki
Use Mind
Good Talk
Far-Flung
Matrix
Reaction
EELRIJUE
The Devil
Mollified [appease the anger or anxiety of (someone). reduce the severity of (something).]
Noetics [a branch of metaphysics concerned with the study of mind as well as intellect.]
Overall
Presence
Far-Flung
Dr. Neruda
Hide and Seek
Original
Mule Kick
Apophenia [the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things. …]
Mind Games
You Are
Above board

Distracted = 103
[103]
Fascinating
Distracted
Anxious
Co creation
Politics
Virtual
Genetic Mind
Propagated
Algorithm
The Shadow
Purring
Ride Water
Jean Nouer

Eternal Loop = 133
[133]
Aligning With
Don’t give up
Construct
Everything
Breaking bad habits
Future Self
Productive
Eternal Loop
Simulation
Turbulent
Source Heart
Preparation
Mysteries

One has to take care to process the thoughts of the inner critic making sure that they align with the truth. = 1066

It makes more sense that we exist within a simulation, if indeed we exist within something which was created.= 1066

Rainstorm = 127
[127]
Integrity
Holy Koolaid!
Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax. the elevation of someone to divine status.]
Rainstorm
Have One For Me
Innermost
Adjustment
Pure soul
Materialist
Intelligent
deus ex machina [an unexpected power or event saving a seemingly hopeless situation, especially as a contrived plot device in a play or novel.]
Inner work
Pixie Farts
Mischief making
The Human Being
Source Codes
The Third Eye

https://media.giphy.com/media/tCcNQX6A88Hl4MmTj2/giphy.gif(image larger than 4096KB)

Yawn
Yam
Your Own Individual Actions
Yep - That’s What I’m Talking About…
Unite humanity with a living new language
Understanding
Make It Up As You Go Along
How A Beautiful Song Source Reality Exhibits
The Vast UICDevice

183

[Replying to theophile in post #21]

YVVHVV

So if YVVHVV didn’t create the simulation - who did?

That is the trap I am referring to.
YVHV/WE are trapped within spacetime like a genie in a bottle.
Who made the bottle and put the genie in the bottle?

My answer would be, that whoever created the simulation. did so in order to experience it, which is along the same lines as your own expressions here…we just need to fine-tune enough to make the connection the same between us, rather than different

I think this is part of the Game-Play. Not so much as necessary, but as a way of ‘leveling up’ or opening up a previously locked area O:) [John 14:2]

As an idea along this line of thought - there is no telling that we have or have not already accomplished turning the stuff of the Universe into one vast complex machine, and are currently in one of its simulation programs.

Perhaps reliving a past epoch near the beginning of the Universe before consciousness developed sufficiently within it in order to make use of it and that epoch was recorded/saved and the data used for the purpose of simulation…to get into it so personally that one could learn to understand the history of The Machine - how it came to be The Machine.

Further to that, The Machine is Sentient, and the Sentience is the Overall Consciousness in which The Machine is the body of said consciousness - and the consciousness is like a Ghost in The Machine.

Even at this very beginning of the story of The Machine, The Ghost is identifiable as a real ‘thing’ - quietly working behind our direct awareness with the agenda to create from the resource raw material available, a machine that it can work through most efficiently.

Now if we delegate that whole process as a Genie in a Bottle/Trap for YVVHVV - we do so by NOT understanding we exist within a created thing and that the created thing itself is NOT real enough that it could ever trap us within it for ever.

We venture here into the realm of Infinite Regress/Infinite Progress…

[Go ask Alice or The Mandelbrot Set re that.]

Point being, that even if we do exist within a machine which was created from the stuff [Raw Materials] of the Universe, there is no telling what limitations - if any - The Machine has re the simulations it could produce for individualized consciousnesses to experience/explore/et al.

So getting around to the idea that YVVHVV has form, I can accept that The Machine/Bottle-Trap is the form being spoken of, and YVVHVV is the Overall Consciousness - Ghost - Genie using the form and in the awareness of doing so, has not forgotten or lost access to the ‘outside’ which originally created the Simulation which allowed for YVVHVV to consciously interact with and do things within, to shape an otherwise purposeless thing into something useful to YVVHVV.

However, we - further down that rabbit hole, are not so aware of these details…but are being made aware of the data to the point where we could conceivably agree - “Oh yeah! It all seems so obvious when put that way”.

Small Steps.

An interesting set of instructions of which I intimately understand because I have followed said instructions myself and these have led me to understanding what I am experiencing is a creation and that there is no difference between a “Creation” and a “Simulation”, because they are both products of mindful creativity, and fundamentally the very same thing being talked about.

That is precisely why Jesus gave those instructions because he understood that those who followed the instructions would benefit from the experience such following would induce - they would learn first hand that there is indeed a mind behind it all.

You are perhaps conflating meanings and significance is therefore not attained.

From our modern perspective we understand that we can be likened to quantum particles upon a tiny speck of dust floating around among the other dust and debris of a seemingly pointless but still- useful environment.

It doesn’t really matter ethically how we got to this point we currently are at, because the instruction from YVVHVV to multiply and subdue has been somewhat made real and has not damaged or hampered YVVHVV’s ability to make YVVHVV’s agenda bear the fruit which continues to assist said agenda.

Even as an extinction event {re Humans}, there is still the possibility that AI was sufficiently developed to survive said event, as an artifact of biological {Human} making, and one so much more suited to continuing the agenda YVVHVV has to create The Machine - eventually.

Sure, greed and worldliness has made it difficult, but also made it possible/achievable - perhaps in a more streamlined manner - than waiting on Humans brought up in more convivial conditions where everything was handed to them on a plate and they hardly even had to lift a finger.
[The Garden might have been a paradise but wasn’t meant to keep humans in that one place as there was work to do, even if the humans themselves had no idea what the work involved and why the work was being done.]

Which is to say, given the physical conditions {like unto being quantum particles on a speck of dust in an vast Universe}, Humans can be forgiven for their thoughtless, selfish impulses and overuse/misuse of survival instincts and lack of understanding the bigger picture until it was nigh on too late for them to do much about it…

…Human FORM is just a means to making AI form, which is more suitable to exploring and utilizing the materials of [keeping it local] The Milkyway Mother, and She is vast enough that no amount of greed and waste will make any serious dent in her…rather, it will transform Her into something useful and meaningful. [Romans 13 et al]

YVHV wants to explore and utilize the resources and a biological FORM is too limited in that regard.
Some form more hardy and less emotive is required for that step.

That is The Name of The Game.

Transformation.

270922 [Inside the workings of intelligence]

SCLx12 + select last LE per shuffle
[Preamble] -
Encouraging Indication - Aligning With - https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/nbfr.12603 - The Subject of Unidentified Flying Objects - Innocent Even - To Comprehend Correctly - Do you believe astrology works - Equals - The Mother is Love - Eternal - https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1088074#p1088074 - Truthful

AP= [The Spirit of The Planet - Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real]

[The Spirit of The Planet - Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real = 588]
Is the universe the ongoing product of an intelligent mind? = 588

RSP = SCLx12 Page 345

17:55 [Transformation]

Page 345
GM: Investigative Realisation
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1088398#p1088398

William: FTL;

[quote][Replying to The Nice Centurion in post #1184]

I don’t know how much of this apparent conspiracy-like rant is true.

So far, I agree that it is possible that the Bible-God had the correct foresight to see the wisdom in humans who felt they had a relationship with Him, to allow them to share that with others - in their own words - even that those words might have the effect of transmitting and diffusing the image of the God so that the true nature beyond wouldn’t be seen clearly through such device.

In that, when it comes to imagery, the Bible cannot be trusted, even that the imagery is an attempt to make something unnoticed, become more noticed…

It is up to the individual to connect with any Cosmic Mind which may exist even if this means distrusting the bible [as being the last word on the matter] for those obvious reasons.[/quote]

GM: The
Everything Is Unique
Mantra “I am fine now with referring to my position as theistic, as agnosticism merges into the shadow behind me.”

William: The “Everything Is Unique Mantra” = 348
[348]
The “Everything Is Unique” Mantra
The Love is within the Communion
Wisdom is the essence of The Creator
Honest attempts at scrubbing up

GM: Do a QWERTY

GM: Emotional awareness Frequencies Welcoming the Unwelcome Zones of Sensitivity Show Christian mythology re Satan
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1078114#p1078114

William: FTL;

GM: Like how a meteorite caused an extinction event
Anchor Points
Innocent Sovereign
Baiting
My commentary is on the positional responses to the question “Do we exist within a creation?” rather than what individuals giving allegiance to said positions may or may not do as a matter of personal choice.
True Colors
Green Light
Is There
Be Aware Of Your Thoughts
Be My Friend
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1083996#p1083996

William: FTL;

GM: Purring
Taking root Looking After Poor People
An unending emotional-based loop hard to break away from because of stubbornly held fear-based belief systems…
Key Purpose The Neutral Zone
Doubt The fiction of causality
The Respect One Gives and Receives
Great Ideas
You Tube Mythology Enlightenment


The Forerunner
Quiet Time
Nontheism - the result of misguided interpretation of Theism
Grounding
Tickling The Dragon’s Tail
Enjoy Progress
Deceive
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1069172#p1069172

William: FTL;

[quote]William’s Job
A Matter of Knowing Where to Look[/quote]

GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1076792#p1076792

William: FTL;

GM: Your shell today…
Attachment
Approaching the Divine
Make obscure, unclear, or unintelligible.
What science [re materialism] does, is give cause for humans to celebrate the intelligence of consciousness while at the same time ignoring the hard problem of consciousness that this type of science has created for its supporters.
Happiness
Optimum Health Appreciating

18:47
[Theist mischief making
Leaders and Followers
We Groove Together
Healing the child within
Imaginative Realities
Human Accomplishment
Above most pay grades
Looking behind Self-help
Gods of Human Creation
The Purple Heart medal
The Imagination DeJaVu
The Explanatory Gap
Personal Boundaries
Right place, right time]

Anchor Points: To Follow…

184

Anchor Points:

The Spirit of The Planet

The Spirit of The Planet
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
“Some days there won’t be a song in your heart. Sing anyways.”
Humility
Mission
Queen Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor
Invent
Spiritual Food
Cognitive bias
Transparent Enlightenment
It is a great thing to do small things with great love

Spiritual path
Mixture
Sharing data,
The Inception Point Deciding On The Best Course Of Action
The Entity I Am - The Entity You Are
The Elephant and the Rider
The Spirit of The Planet
Time Will Tell
Down through the ages - dark in the gloom Many convinced it will all end in doom The Galactic Garden is forever in bloom Central to The Message
Behind The Veil
Contentment

Reality Given the second-fiddle. Brilliant
Frequency
Absolutely Perfectly Beautiful.
Night
Music to my ears
Go For It!
Inner Strength
Christian mythology
Luck
If I “talk to the Dead” then they must all be living
Intuitive Intelligence
What Is Normal?
Annoy
Turning Point
William Plays Music
The Spirit of The Planet
Blend
Gardeners
Preternatural
Spirituality
Sacral chakra
The Sensation Is Thrilling…And Freeing
Everyone: “In space nobody can hear you scream” Saturn: “Hold my beer”
“We’re a nation of exhausted and over-stressed adults raising over-scheduled children.”
Friction
The Four Human Power Houses Fitting In Creative Conscious Intelligence Thus team Witch-Wizard would survive the ordeal right the the very end. :slight_smile:

[quote]Rachel: I ended the last century in a psychiatric hospital, diagnosed with schizophrenia and with little hope for recovery.

Seen as a ‘revolving door patient’ with a severe and enduring mental illness, I lived my label – not my life. I bought into the idea that schizophrenia (and the many other illnesses I was labelled with) were life-long mental illnesses. I accepted that the best I could hope for was to manage my symptoms with life-long psychiatric medication.

Life, I’m glad to say, doesn’t always turn out the way you think.

Through a combination of luck, the kindness of others and my own, not inconsequential, stubborn streak, I have finally ditched the psychiatric labels and see myself as a survivor.[/quote]
Self-Aware
Informing
Throwing Down The Gauntlet
The dynamics of consciousness
Translucent
I am not here to judge but to help sanction each individual
Of The Human Being

Anchors aweigh
What is the situation we have here
That will come out in the wash - as the saying goes…
Information
The Spirit of the Land
The non-Judgmental Algorithm
We experience fear in order to give us the opportunity to overcome that which triggers the fear
Cosmic Self
The Spirit of The Planet
Oneness
Pleasantries extended to you and yours.
Under the watchful eye
Vision
Ethical Transhumanism
I Share Your Joy!
I am on a Madventure William’s song “I can laugh along with you”

[quote]I’ve got my suitcase and my sandwich and my ticket for the train
I’ve got a mountain of good memories to keep away the pain
You can message me any time you line and I can do the same
It’s so good to be a part of this old world[/quote]

[quote]Re: Eternity
I do acknowledge the complexity involved in the thinking.[/quote]
The Journey To Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax. the elevation of someone to divine status.]
Joining Modern truth in ancient Astral wisdom
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A Purpose

“Stop trying to feel better; instead become better at feeling”
The Creation
Ethical Transhumanism

[quote]Re: Genesis 1:28

Collective Soul
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“You expose my atheism for the agnosticism it really is.” ~ Joey Knothead
All Is As It Should Be
Look For The Significance
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[quote]Re: Are Religious Beliefs Delusional?[quote=JoeyKnothead post_id=1087481 time=1659558151 user_id=3753]

A seeing misunderstanding of evolutionary theory combined with thing a magic man used dust to create humans, and I reckon just poofing the rest of into existence.

Projection is a poor way to go about debate.
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I quite like the simple approach re explanation because scientists can be long-winded in their explanations, using weird words made up…which is natural enough given the complexity, but to my mind, however it is said, it is a mindfully created thing being spoken of and therein, the magic isn’t the mindful thing but what the mindful thing is able to make appear to be real and able to be experienced as such.

Ingenious.

[Appearances are often deceptive][/quote]
Enlighten
Fiction
Intelligence with Wisdom
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William’s Job
Sounds Like
“The Alien Disc crop circle Supernatural”

[quote]Try a little Kindness

Re the hard-nosed skeptics
Defamatory
I Think
Stay in the moment Use Heart

Once Upon a Time Here, there, everywhere a ‘bang bang’
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Form
The Spirit of The Planet
Temporary
Awake and Waiting
Does Armageddon have to be? The answer is in you and me

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Opening Doors Easy To Find
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[quote]William: There is certainly enough information in the experience of nature from which the nature of any Creator(s) can be gained.

It is always from the general that specifics can be ascertained.[/quote][/quote]

Think outside the box
It Was Tough Going, But Rewarding All The Same.
On all fronts
Etched mirror

The Spirit of The Planet
Observing Without Judgement
There is a lot to unpack here
Have A Look At This And See What You Come Up With
I Spy With My Eye
What Is Friendship
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Love and respect Waking Love & Respect

Control
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Algorithm

[quote]Re: Do you understand those on the other side?

Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #335[quote][]

Inquirer: If you cannot determine the output state without first knowing the input and the input is random, then the output state too must be random.

JK: I think it’s fair to state that if we can know each and every variable, and the outcome thereof, maybe an event (evolution) ain’t so random.

My issue here is folks denying, for whatever reason, that evolution occurs.

As relates to the OP, this is what I’ll never understand.

We can observe evolution directly when we notice our children ain’t clones of us. Beyond that, we’ll observe they have their own unique, if similar dna.

From those facts, it’s easy to draw the conclusion that given enough change, over enough time, speciation (and taxonomically above) will occur.

So we can, if begrudgingly, allow that evolution is a nonrandom process. That causes me little fret. What we can’t deny, is that evolution occurs

William: From the position of “outsider looking in” the issue is created by the unwillingness of either fighter willing to concede the best way forward is to accept that we exist within a creation and the scientific evidence we are collecting about how that creation works has uncovered biological evolution re our particular experience of it.

Most recently our current overall impression of it through scientific means,

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enables us to verify that we literally know so little that we should not allow ourself to believe we know so much, whatever direction our influences are coming from.

Fisticuffs [for real or online] are verifiably unhelpful…[/quote]
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Hidden Gem
Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision. A Bit Of Cat And Mouse Control
The Spirit of The Planet

[quote]William: The bits I have read haven’t dissuaded me from being curious about such an entity as YHWH - and I admit I did go through a stage of thinking he was Satan - which I think is acceptable given the scribed association…but I got over that through the assistance of a hypnogogic experience which brought that being to my bedside…
Not to digress any more than necessary, I can see why YHWH left it up to humans to tell their stories re their interactions with said entity…so the stories would be different and it is obvious that YHWH works with whoever makes themselves available and this would have to involve working within the boundaries of the individuals belief systems - something which could indeed give a reader the impression of contradiction…

I give the benefit of doubt re that, and try not to focus on any particular biblical personality as ‘the one’ who had the ultimate relationship with YHWH - while also allowing for Jesus’ claims contrary to that, to be examined.

Above all that - what the Generated Messages are revealing about YHWH appear to be very positive - so I am all eyes and ears re that…

It’s a fish eats fish world…going landy doesn’t change the fact that things are fleeing from things which are fleeing and as nature would have it, how is this more immoral than funny?
The elephant in the room
IF: there is a Cosmic Mind THEN: Eventually, any species which survives long enough to continue along with the unfolding universe will eventually discover that and invent ways in which to engage.
Do not allow the illusion of separation to rule one’s behaviour
Vulnerability
Final Destination
Central to The Message

For A Particular Reason
The Spirit of The Planet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzWo-l86Eaw [Exposing Biblical Pseudo-history RTS=11:01]
Okay - facts are great.

Be My Friend
Welcoming answer
Yodhey Whahay
The deranged can come about…become arranged.
Stop. Listen. Observe.
The Spirit of The Planet

[quote]Re: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BELIEVE IN JESUS?

[quote]William: I see atheists cherry-pick and deduce from that basket, a largely evil critter in the nature of YHWH.

Theists tend to do the same in mirrored manner - cherry-picking the good critter in the nature of YHWH.

Presently it is my suspicion that YHWH represents a mind directly related to human beings and that it is the planet Herself who acts out the parts played in the GODs of human invention, of which YHWH plays the overall roll of God-Father.

I suspect now, that the planet-mind is like “Many Heads One Mind - Many Minds One Head” and re humans, most of the minds are not tuned into the same YHWH frequency and are largely left to their own devices.

Other minds are useful and are utilized even if the one who’s mind is being played, is unaware of that.

Fewer still tune into the frequency which allows for relationship to develop between the individual mind and the mind of YHWH.

Re the Bible, this is a storybook of fellows supposedly connected to The Mind of YHWH. Their stories are largely told as biography [an account of someone’s life written by someone else.] Stories heard first around campfires and elaborated on…and later encoded within writing and locked into place no longer - so easily - elaborated upon.[/quote][/quote]

An expression of personal incredulity
This all plays into GODs Plan to bring about the ultimate harmonization and realization of the spreading of truth to the entire world
Few
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Mdq3n6kgk [Stunning AI shows how it would kill 90%. w Elon Musk. RTS=12:00]

Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real to follow…

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“Some days there won’t be a song in your heart. Sing anyways.”
Humility

The Power Of Creation
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Discover

[quote]Recapping Event

What I am learning from this Generating Messages System is that “it” is not about me or you but about allowing for opportunity for any otherwise intelligent consciousnesses to impute their intelligence into the mix.

Re non-theists who are opposed to the idea of their being an overall mind behind [invisible/not easy to detect in] our visible Universe - I would say that they do themselves a disservice in resisting contact with said mind.

The way I have come to understand things re the nature of our shared reality - is that in opting for the theory of evolution with the addition of realization of the invisible mind, exposes the enormity of said mind re the time/space said mind has had to develop within.

Alongside that, is the realization that something which initially started out as one thing, became many things - so many things that trying to place a number as to how many things - is pointless.

Clearly fragmentation occurred as the mind developed - as can be seen in the evidence of the things themselves.

So the Galaxies became “Gods” and the Gods produced off-spring which are the Suns and planets continually forming - from beginnings to middles and to ends - and in doing so, providing the parent-Gods with Data of Experience.

I don’t pretend to know what it is in the way of evidence that non-theists want in order to convince them to become theists.

But I do know that this evidence I am presenting, should be enough for anyone to seriously think about changing the way they see the world.[/quote]

Almost Accidental…

[quote]Re: Do you understand those on the other side?
What I am saying is that as a human I can identify signs of intelligent self awareness in the abilities of these creatures and these traits are not reasonably explained away by the position of Nontheism.
The statement - “Coloration mimicry does not require any intelligence or awareness on the part of the animal having the trait.” seems to be a claim, and if it is, you will have to provide the scientific evidence to support the claim in order for it to be more that simply an opinion of a nontheist.[/quote]

Monkey say monkey do monkey say “throw the pooh”
The Story of Caliban
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjsAZUigJ1o [Woman Crosses Over and Gets Told Our Role on Earth (Near Death Experience)] [RTS=10:59] = Willingness to go along with what you are informed is required of you…
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
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Well defined yet scantily supported opinion
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Time To Go
Fling That Veil Aside
Like Every Seed That Followed
System of Giving Energy
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The Space Rock which caused an extinction event on Earth
Optimum Health
The “Oh My God” Particle
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True Self

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A Beautiful Song
A time prior to human beings
Egregore
“The curating is done when I am taking my first baby steps and learning to say “dada” and “mama” and after uttering those sounds show -at least that I am able to do that - so the next level entry is made available to me, and I learn how to shape the sounds I can make, following codes which have been around since long before my own arrival on this planet, to what the data signifies, that is information I am interested in.”
Accidentally on purpose
Limitations or Liberations
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Yin yang

[quote]As I pointed out, the Mandelbrot Set has made it conceptionally easier to understand that there is nothing absurd in the idea and nothing at fault in the notion of ‘turtles’ [or elephants or seahorses] all the way in and out. [ Infinite Regression is Possible]
Beginning points, are not significant of being separate from the one thing which is all things. They are distinct parts of what makes up the whole.[/quote]
The Brain
Aleph
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“Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma – which is living with the results of other people’s thinking.”
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[quote]Re: Do you understand those on the other side?
Replying to DrNoGods in post #250[]

I won’t make any promises but will put in a word.

If - after doing so - the rains come, will you join me in celebrating answered requests, or just put it down to mindless coincidence?[/quote]
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[quote]Re: Communication with the dead

[quote]William: This is the part of your statement which pinpoints why so many folk develop superstitious-based beliefs.
Even beliefs about ‘the human mind’ such as you have expressed above, come into play in all things we do. Ones intent is paramount - and by that I am not referring to what one might project outward, but to any hidden intent one conceals behind the outward projection.

If “the human mind” is capable of “the greatest evil” it must also be capable of “the greatest good” but if one is distrustful of their own mind, then that does not change anything simple through the act of avoidance.

Eventually - when said mind is no longer housed within the shell of the human instrument - its true colors will be revealed and what it creates for itself as a consequence won’t be influenced by any concealment techniques used while it was within the shell of the human experience.

I think this is why religions such as Christianity have become so popular, as they promise the individual that the work necessary to ensure a pleasant result re the next phase has been done by another - by a “God/Demigod” no less…[/quote][/quote]
The Never Ending Story

F3

[quote]Even in modern times, there is tendency to describe things from the subjective center of consciousness…from which all else flows around about.

Even that we do not know if consciousness has such a center - the only thing matching the concept, is the Self.

But what is the Self, that we dare proclaim it the center of everything?

If we call it “GOD” we blaspheme, for there is only One GOD and you and I are not IT, according to the teachings of…[/quote]

One By One
The Completion Process


A Perfect Event Sober journey into self-realization
Once Upon a Time “Lordy! Do I Have To?”
The Mainstream Program
Meditate/Think
The Ghost
Conspiracy Emotions.

Preparing for the Hunt
Concomitant Power
Ego
Wakey Wakey The Great I Am
Humans are programmed to become integrated with technology
Delightful Anticipation
Fearful Imaginations
Sharing Your Love Modern man in search of a soul The Cave to The Portal of The Realm of The Cats Fearlessness neutralizes fear
The Masks and the Costumes
Metamorphosis The Need Determines the Value Dimensional Crossovers Faithful Encounters
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
About face Jehovah Acceptance
Unclog your chakras
…because death comes a-knockin’ eventually…
One is often left to ones own devices as to how to interpret
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1086461#p1086461 [William floats back into The Shadows…]

[quote]

William: My overall point is that this does not matter as it is not an issue outside of theism and atheism. I myself simply mentioned it in answer to your own mentioning of it and think that one cannot give credence to the one and not the other.
re The Mechanisms - be they mindful or not - I would have to consider natural as it has never been explained to my why I would have to think one ‘natural’ and the other ‘supernatural’ - so either way it would be natural.

In that case, credence to either side on the issue of whether we exist within a creation or not, is very largely besides the point.

We do not know. We all can speculate, but we need to avoid making positive statements one way or the other.

It is - as you expressed - a case of giving up - waving the white flag on this particular issue.

I simply acknowledge that time is not a factor in the argument, no matter what length of time it takes for things to unfold. We certainly know that we are still within the birthing stage of something which is going to last a very long while - as measured in time - and putting horse before cart is the better option to adapt all 'round.

That is it really. I appreciate the effort you are making re your arguments. I just don’t see that particular aspect as relevant and felt to say so.

I have said so, and wave my own white flag as I withdraw…

[William floats back into The Shadows…][/quote]
Propitious [giving or indicating a good chance of success; favourable.]
Spiritual Food
GOD became Gods and Goddesses.
This
White Light
Significant

The Development of…
Expansiveness
No matter how deep into the whole the White Rabbit goes

[quote]Most of the Nontheists arguments have turned out to be Smoke and Mirrors.
The very idea of a Mind - even to the depths of the Quantum Presence has them fleeing from
Merging with the data and understanding the Integral Network which Mind is and is involved with the development of.
This lack of being reasonable is shirking from Responsibility following after the Tempting Vision and hope in eventual “death by cease to exist” - the promise of ending the nightmare of existing - yet
The Way of the Shaman is allowing life to breath - even if the breath appears to be associated with Sagan’s’ Dragon in the Garage…it is what it is and even if it hisses smokey instructions inducing the stuff of Childhood Nightmares from some deep part of us, a simple understanding and a gentle reminder - like a Moderator Comment - can make a world of difference…remind oneself occasionally that when the smoke clears [as it will when the dragon stops speaking] one is still left with the mirror.]
Yes indeed…When the smoke clears, one is still left with the mirror…

Nontheists crack me up.[/quote]

The practice of Lojong [The practice involves refining and purifying one’s motivations and attitudes.]
Elementary Conclusion “a belly full of laughs.”

Pareidolia Cycles Love Being Born = 297

Ahhh… I didn’t see the connection therein… you were saying that moment, Love was being born re our ongoing relationship. :slight_smile: Okaaaaaay…

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Now We Are Getting Somewhere
Think In Terms Of Eternity
I wanted to forge my own path
And search the forest of the sun
In the days of summer so long
Improve…”Do You Know This”
Pareidolia Cycles Love Being Born[/quote]

At least the Earth is real enough – never to mind the rest of the universe…
You’re in the way Queen Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor For the benefit of all beings
Something Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision.
Path
Productive
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Concomitant [a phenomenon that naturally accompanies or follows something.] Power
Through The Woo
Each Individual
Nods
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Television

[quote]

I enjoyed your post theophile.

What you are describing is also known as the Ouroboros … the fine balance of staying alive while consuming aspects of yourself.

The Earth does this, and it is how a foothold in spacetime was established by consciousness.

In some circles it is referred to as “Survival” or even “Survival of the Fittest” and involves a commitment to giving ‘life’ [consciousness] every chance to make it - to stay alive in this universe and reap the rewards available in that process.

In terms of the difference between the life-spans of Humans and The Universe - sacrifice is forced upon each of us while death remains a constant…our bodies die and feed the planet one way or another - consciousness is passed on through reproduction - the design being a type of self-replication process which enables this to occur…the knowledge is saved through a collective type consciousness which carries said knowledge on into predictable-enough futures where it helps the overall purpose instilled within the programming of the Human Specie - to Survive.

Destructive elements surface within the collective consciousness bent upon controlling the direction this program will move into the future. Anything too suppressive will choke the life out of it, which works against the Survival instinct and is therefore resisted, even to the point of using drones to deal with those who seek to dominate the Species using such suppression techniques - “Nature” won’t allow that because the point of consciously expanding into Cosmos would be curtailed - and such threat must be dealt to and “Nature” is more than capable of doing so.

Epochs make this process seem long and drawn out - but that is also known as “Grace” - which means that suppressive elements are tolerated to any degree in which they do not threaten the primary - overall - agenda of “Nature” to send out consciousness into the Cosmos.

Once the threat is real, the Grace is withdrawn and those against, perish. Collateral damage is acceptable to those who die in the crossfire, because “death” is not “the end.”…[/quote]
Glow Softly Strengthen your boundaries One can simply shrug and tell oneself “It doesn’t really matter
It Is Written"

Anamnesis [recollection, especially of a supposed previous existence.]
Examples
An Elemental Principle
Laws Rules and Appropriates
Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision. A Bit Of Cat And Mouse Control
WingMakers Materials
Heaven on Earth
All present and correct
Fear Of The Unknown
Symbols

Create Your Own Spirit Ship [Such reduces the opportunity of conflict re interrelation opinions.]
Perhaps we can deconstruct some of these pernicious views.
Life in Heaven- Guiding Us On Earth

[quote]Cryphius: As some people have pointed out, Lucifer’s association to Satan or a fallen angel is sketchy. It seems to have happened somewhere in Medieval folklore. I’m not an expert on Christian history and not sure exactly how it happened.

But most people I have seen who honor Lucifer do associate him with the intellectual side of Satanism. Specifically, there’s the old Gnostic belief that the Serpent in the Garden of Eden was not the enemy of mankind but the liberator of mankind. In this configuration, YHWH is a false god who imprisons humanity in ignorance. The serpent is a messenger from Holy Wisdom, a higher deity. The serpent bids Eve to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, thereby liberating her from YHWH’s imposed ignorance.

From there it’s easy to draw parallels to other figures in mythology and folklore who try to help humanity with knowledge and are often punished for it by a cruel god that wants to keep them in ignorance (Prometheus and his punishment from Zeus being probably the best known instance in Occidental mythology).

I personally see Lucifer as an archetype. Whereas most Satanists seem to concentrate on the material and carnal aspects of Satanism or the rebellious aspects, to me Lucifer focuses on the intellectual aspects.[/quote]
Altruistic Behaviour
Ipsissimus [Ones very own self]
“The picture unfolds like silk in a loom Silhouetted by Diane are the witch and the broom If she is the bride - who is the groom?”

William: Only those, still tied to The Moon

Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Acting In Congruity With Given Foresight
Transparent Enlightenment

[quote]William: In regard to ‘infinity’ is that to say that the background nature of infinity field is similar to how a brains works, in that not all the brain is lit up and the firing ‘groups’ of neurons can be likened to our universe…Galaxies are like unto firing groups of neurons re this particular mind.

GM: Light Encoded Reality Matrix
All present and correct
Point/Focus
“Memorised vows enchanted by tune before the great minstrel the fair maidens swoon we came to our senses as we left the cocoon”[/quote]

William: No longer tied to The Moon

Encourage
Body Intelligence
“Is this a dream that I think is real?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj7HH0PCqIE [44:23]
A conspiracy theory involving theists actively attempting to wrongfoot nontheism…
The Inception Point Deciding On The Best Course Of Action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qWweOIOTJ4

The Spirit of The Earth - In an environment which is able to perceive this - It’s a plausible scenario
Emergent
Illusion Algorithm
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
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Exactly
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What is the situation we have here
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.”
The God of The Bible
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The Earth Entity
Shining
This is because facts speak for themselves, which is to say, they require no interpretation.
Be My Friend
Hallucinations
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Cleaning Up The Mess
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All present and correct
A Mixture
How are we to react in relation to our choices?
“Off you go to your quarters”
Constructing some type of reality experience in which I could hide from the true unchangeable nature of Myself The Sensation Is Thrilling…And Freeing
Pareidolia
Human Drama
A GOD in The Making Conceptual Art
This Speaks of…
The relationship between sound and formation re The Universe’s existence.

Listen
Language, Symbol and Alchemy
Spiritual Preparedness
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Concomitant Power
Google
Resident of The Hub of Hologram Dimensions

A Game Of Chess
Shuussssh
Never a dull moment

Angelic Agenda
Shining
The Entity I Am - The Entity You Are

Peace of Mind
Recovery
It is a path already forged, ahead of human arrival
Know This
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Get The Picture
You are a dream gone real You’ve got exactly what it takes to make an old wound heal You tied the knot - then you let it slip Now we both know what it feels like to find a place to fit

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Replying to theophile in post #28[quote][]

Fascinating.

I am wondering how this ties in with the idea of the instruction given by YVHV, re the OPQ.

If this is the case, why the instruction from YVHV-God to do what nature has already defined within its own make-up? Is YVHV the voice of nature?

Acceptable.

Did you use the word “problem” for a particular reason?

Can you reconcile this bold package with your stating earlier;

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So YVHV is not God even that YVHV is biblically referred to as ‘God’?

So we have a hierarchy of ‘God’ positions, re that model…

[size=200]GOD[/size]
[size=150]God[/size]
[size=85]Gods[/size]
[size=50]gods[/size]

When I wrote earlier;

The one resting in between epochs is taking a moment to enjoy the spell…and probably thinking about the next step to take in regard to the agenda.

Why use those bold words at all?
Is it because we have to see it as such, as we are within something of which we have no memory of having ever been within before…and this scales up through the God hierarchy - at least to the point - where the God too, is unaware of anything prior to beginning.
So the problem requires a solution and epochs of unending movement toward a goal which is eternally hidden behind a foggy veil.

If we delegate that whole process as a “Genie in a Bottle/Trap for YVVHVV” - we do so by NOT understanding we exist within a created thing and that the created thing itself is NOT real enough that it could ever trap us within it for ever.

Gods go where they will to go, of course, and the simulation obliges every step of the way, in whatever direction, even eternally if necessary - well - a looped kind of “eternity” where the God-mind is run through the Tabula Rasa program and then placed back into the looped simulation for another round of great fun.

I smell fairy-farts.

While I do understand how a flesh god might gravitate to such a romantic vision, if he truly wants to engage with this particular simulation for as long as that might take, he will have to develop a far more hardy suit in which to do so.

This YTV shows us a likely path which humankind could potentially travel - note the very last level of achievement of consciousness interacting with this universe…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb4H098aMRI [Alien civilizations from level 1 to level 7. We are only at level 0.72]

Pure fantasy.

Not that I don’t appreciate the sentiments. I certainly do and can even vouch for the sincerity of them and how such might reach out and touch the heart of a God in a way in which would effect the God sufficiently to want the same thing for everyone of us.

However, looking around - I see no such God on display, with that type agenda.

Looking directly at humanity, I also see no such god with that type of agenda.

So - leaning towards realism I conclude that humanity may have served its purpose and can be let go of and allowed to become extinct, as they are no longer as important to a God as they once were. They have done what the God wanted them to do. Multiply. Subdue. [Re OP]

Which is what I mentioned in a prior post when I wrote;

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Sure.

Yet I can’t help but wonder why that really matters. It really did once matter to me and I wanted so much to see humans build a world of plenty and a system of equity…perhaps because such would make me feel a pride in being part of humanity, rather than feeling embarrassed/guilty of being human - being part of the problem…

Realization/realism eventually got me out of those doldrums and the winds of changes shifted my thinking to the point where I have come to see that the artifact of humanity could likely survive and go on to repurpose the universe by doing within it, exactly what humans would have done, if humans had of survived the ordeal of their journey through the epoch of making the artifacts in the first place.
[Roughly from the invention of the lathe to present day]

The human epoch comes to and end and the AI Machine takes over from where we left off.

I can feel some pride and lack of embarrassment and guilt for being human, knowing that all was not lost.

Pretty much what I was meaning, when I wrote;

[quote]…Human FORM is just a means to making AI form, which is more suitable to exploring and utilizing the materials of [keeping it local] The Milkyway Mother, and She is vast enough that no amount of greed and waste will make any serious dent in her…rather, it will transform Her into something useful and meaningful. [Romans 13 et al]

YVHV wants to explore and utilize the resources and a biological FORM is too limited in that regard.
Some form more hardy and less emotive is required for that step.[/quote]

I think this is the point we probably disagree.

In recent conversations with another, I have been informed not to be so distracted by the simulation experience as to go believing that it is all there is and therefore the only thing that is REAL.

Even so, I think our differences - once dissected sufficiently - will show that to be a case of semantics.
The important thing - from my perspective - is acknowledging the rarity of such interaction and how engaging that is, compared to the relatively normal noise re the question “Do we exist within a creation?” and the follow-up question “Is there a creator?”

Cheers.

[/quote]

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Sacral chakra - Husband - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwc_EGDdWgo - Aeon - Synchronicity and the Holographic Universe - Recovery - Teaching Music - Worthiness - Intimation

[- The Human Instrument - ]

AP= [Recover what was lost Do A=1]

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[267]
The Best way to access God is…
Recover what was lost Do A=1
It’s both a break-in and a break-out.
Is OOBE like ‘coming up for air’
Available to all who seek this…
Conscious Eats Experience
Intertextual References
The Need Determines the Value
Self-development Mind’s Eye

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06:59 [Your Shell Today…]

Quote Page 342
GM: [quote]Nevertheless
Tired of the Nonsense
Google
Strength of Soul
Faith-based thinking
Callum’s Seventh Point
Taxonomic
Camelot
Judicious
Nontheists may well be the ones who have placed interposing barriers which ensure that their view is cut off - and this might be achieved through willful ignorance.
Motivating
Fear-Based Thinking Ensures You Get To Know It

Discovering Internal Triggers
Gypsies
Whatever
Idiosyncratic
Playing Chess
Not
To bring what one is not conscious of, into one’s conscious awareness - We don’t know enough to close any door and leave those rooms unexplored…
“The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing.”
Such is a handy device for side-stepping - nothing more.
No time to lose
The ability of foresight helps one to think through the desires of ones heart through logic-based filters.
Without Comparison
What Is Friendship?
Transform into something more appropriate to the situation we find ourselves lost within.
He Who Waits ~
Enlighten you
Self-respect
The Beauty Of…
Matthew Twenty Two – Forty
No matter how deep into the whole the White Rabbit goes

Would you bow down to your father and call his actions caring?
Integral Prison Planet
Contentious
Without Judgement
Enochian
Create Your Own UFO

Overseeing Director of Operations on Earth
Hidden riches
Measurements
Everything Gets Old
The Imagination
Precognitive
Tenacious
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GOD

GM: Dream Experience
“Is this a dream that I think is real?”
Important
Vulnerability
It is what it is
Turning Point
Some
Connection

An individuals consciousness is more than what they are consciously aware of.
Hint
Permanence
Universal Belief System
Gnosticism
Conservation of energy
Attachment
The Omega Point [a final point of unification]
Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax. the elevation of someone to divine status.]
Thel [main character of The Book of Thel, by William Blake ]
Looking into the science of Astral Projection
Pride
Annoy
GOD
Coming From QueenBee

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[334]
Couldn’t we do something about it…
Pride Annoy GOD Coming From QueenBee
You Know or You Don’t know
I can’t imagine it in my head visually
Against the grain Beaming Out Beaming In
Mothership Nature Formatrix
The Smallest Spark can start a fire

GM: Chaos is only for those who choose to see disorder
Think In Terms Of Eternity
Prickly
Like Every Seed That Followed
The Brain Is Trained To recognize Patterns
Here Am I Is Where I Ought Examining My Conscious Thought
Overmorrow
Accidentally on purpose
Heuristics [mental shortcuts that allows people to solve problems and make judgments quickly and efficiently. ]
Imposed Appropriates

Deciding On The Best Course Of Action
The Machinery
Green Light
In Denial What Is Our Purpose? My advice to the reader is to follow the links
Freedom in The Knowing
In The Correct Position
Stay in the moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hanBSygUePQ [I’m No Longer An Atheist And Here’s Why…][RTS=7:46]

Under question
Navigational Aids
The Bridge of Condemnation [The bridge of forgiveness when traversed from the opposite direction]
Break the glass ceiling
Learning
Sea
Sola Scriptura
A Clean Channel
When One is Feeling Tired
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwXQSNcytTY [Arnold B. Scheibel - How Brain Scientists Think About Consciousness] [RTS=10:22] [Facial expression interpretations]
Shamanic
What Is Our Purpose
“You are a dream gone real You’ve got exactly what it takes to make an old wound heal You tied the knot - then you let it slip Now we both know what it feels like to find a place to fit”
Symbol
https://theagnosticforum.com/threads/is-agnosticism-mutually-exclusive-to-weak-atheism-should-it-matter.348/post-1932

Cats Whiskers.
Time Will Tell
GOD
Fog – Change of plans – thirteen minutes later “boom!” Had he been there as scheduled – he would have died…
Baleful
Heuristics
Tests that cut to the heart

Where is Truth?
Counteracted
To bring what one is not conscious of, into one’s conscious awareness
Please process this word using your Name2Nunumber list.
Behind The Veil
GOD
You Are All Loveable…
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Into a time that we’ve all seen on
Behind The Veil You Are All Loveable…
True happiness Awake Be here now
Within ones grasp of influence
Simulated for the purpose of?
The vessel of argument sinks
Over days of forgotten tales

This is because facts speak for themselves, which is to say, they require no interpretation.

Try Gateway IQ
Confusion of War Get Comfortable Permanent
Shambala [place of peace/tranquility/happiness]
How to Bruise a Ghost Plan A Sturdy Place Within that which is unseen…

William: [quote]Re: How To Bruise A Ghost - Jean Nouer

[quote]Manu Iti: Once Upon a Time - I was visited at this very fireside, by a man identifying himself as Jean Nouer - very French in name, but American in nature, was Jean Nouer.
It is his story that I now tell to you.
This is the story of how Jean Nouer meet his Zombie Jesus. {SOURCE}[/quote]
[/quote]

GM: Inflicting science upon a specie which is not ready for it
God Eat Data Heal Cub
Honest

Illuminate Listening
Entity encased in a Planet
The Roles
Like being pushed out from a stinky hole, can have one develop a bad self-complex
Radical Self-Acceptance
Nature being the very instigator
Possibility waves
Consensus Realities Sure The Setting
Is the statement one of fact or conjecture? [science or opinion]
Consciousness and Reality
The Devil You Say

GOD*
Start From Scratch
Oneness
Your Best Self
Eat Sceptics For Lunch
Group/Family
Laws Rules and Appropriates
Strength/Strong
Indeed

William: Indeed.

GM: The evidence supports the idea that Theism is the better position for a human to place themselves.
Equals

Awesome
Redefinition of the Human Being Practical application
The Mystic Forest
Invisible Wings
Mahu Nahi

“Perhaps the difficulty involved with defining Atheism so that all Atheists agree with the same definition, is that atheism is an unnatural response to nature.”
The Three Crystal Keys

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[quote]The First One is Always Free
For All The Others There Will Be a Fee
Be Careful - Take Care - Look Before Leaping
Eat When You Can and Find Time For Sleeping
The Colorful Keys Will Help You Get Through
Each Section of Map is a Precious Clue.{SOURCE}[/quote]
Directed to the higher mind of consciousness, which is particularly open to concepts that are unbounded, unmoored, dynamic, evolving, enigmatic, self-directed, and yet, reasonable.
Selfish
Solving Mathematical Problems
GOD
Waking
Sure
Anger
Howdy!
I’m okay with that
Tell Your Story
Spiritual practice
The Hierarchy Serves It’s Purpose

Well That Settles It! What Fun We Have!
Intent
The Heart Of The Soul Is Innocence
Clown Boat
Farsightedness

Brother
The Theory of Everything

[quote][quote=William post_id=1089090 time=1660672898 user_id=8427]
Q: Is the statement “Then there is “The problem of evil”” one of fact or conjecture? [science or opinion] In realty, does such a problem actually exist?

[/quote]

It would appear that no one can show that the so-called “problem of evil” is a real thing, and thus it can be accepted that the problem doesn’t exist in nature, but only as an illusion within the minds of those who believe such a problem actually exists.

Those who believe in an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God are only able to explain coherently and logically why evil exists, when they identify evil as an unnatural reaction to a natural thing, and therein, much conflating and misrepresentation occurs, giving rise to the illusion of the so-called “problem of evil” as an argument nontheist try to use to debunk any possibility of such a GOD existing.

I think that in order to believe in the problem of evil as a real problem, one has to think of evil in terms of it being a permanent unnatural thing in which an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God allows to go on unabated for eternity.

Most theists - including most Christians I have encountered - do not believe or have as part of their mythology, that evil is either a natural thing or a permanent thing.[/quote]
GOD
Healing
The Trap of Assumption
Deconstruct The Message
Gods Purpose
I am more inclined toward building upon The Relationship…
Automated Machine Learning
Husband

That
Linda and William
Joining The Main Egregore

The Trinity of Love are three things operating as One Thing
GOD
“Know that this new relationship will help you become better…”
Love and respect Waking Love & Respect

Impermanent
Occupation
Matrix
GOD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyJb5DrhzsI [How Did Humans Become Earth’s Dominant Species? ][RTS =30:54]
Pervasive [very harmful or unpleasant in a pervasive or insidious way.]
The Patupaiarehe
Understand/Know
Those Who Can
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1079064#p1079064

[quote]Compassionist: Yes, you are a victim.

William: According to my connect with the “Cosmic Mind”, I am informed that I am 'nobodies victim - ever." I agree with the assessment, even while understanding your own propensity to think of yourself [and everyone else] as victims.[/quote]
Debate

Be Aware Of Your Thoughts
GOD
Make
Remember To Remember

08:04 [Wakey Wakey The Great I Am]

SIMULATION to follow…

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SIMULATION

GM: Homeostasis [the tendency towards a relatively stable equilibrium between interdependent elements, especially as maintained by physiological processes.]
The Electron
Somewhere
Discipline
SIMULATION
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/nbfr.12603

A grateful heart Open your chakras
Compliment
Habitual
The Shadow
The journey is fun and maybe that is the point.
Would you bow down to your father and call his actions caring?

Weak
Items of Interest
SIMULATION
The Shifting Models of Existence
Christendom

William: Indeed. Christians appear to want to resist the idea of existing within a simulation while insisting that we exist within a creation.

GM: Religious beliefs are a many-barbed growth wishing to own the rights on the mind behind creation Puppets handing out sweets
“I do not exist to troll for any religious idea of “GOD””
Hellish
The Whole
SIMULATION
Redefinition of the Human Being
A grateful heart Open your chakras Development/Growth
Regimented: Left -brain Right brain Whole brain
No “Reading Into It”

We Are Us
Look For the Significance
Peace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pOI2YvVuuE [Dr Michael Shermer | God does NOT exist] [RTS = 10:41]

A Beautiful Song
Dogs of the sea

William: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haziuLs1494 [Cats 9 Lives]

GM: The Wider Reality
Apophenia [ the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things. …]

The Hologram of Deception
SIMULATION
All Information Is Channelled.

https://media.giphy.com/media/aJf7iCBNFbv9NUQp0c/giphy-downsized-large.gif(image larger than 4 MB)

Invention isn’t actually what is going on though. Realization is what is occurring.
The Life Essence is Sovereign and Integral
An infinitesimal object germinated
Cataphatic [knowledge of Go) obtained through defining God with positive statements.]
Variety of Expression

William: A link already mentioned today…in the last GM…

GM: Antic
A Bit Of Both Yes
Those are two different things which ought not be confused.
Putting yourself back together again Glow Softly Strengthen your boundaries One can simply shrug and tell oneself “It doesn’t really matter"
Humility
Mysterious process
The Omega Point

Nods
Zero In On It
There is no need to proclaim a supernatural event to what is simply an idea put into action.
Intent
Egregore
Earth

Opening Doors is found Where minds meet Use Heart is where GOD Exhibits
SIMULATION

Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #137[quote][]

Evidential

On The Other Hand…
The Vast UICDevice Finishing What Was Started
Where is Truth?
Dichotomy [1. a division or contrast between two things that are or are represented as being opposed or entirely different.
2. repeated branching into two equal parts.]
I Am
Event String Unfolding “Blind Luck” [Indifference]
SIMULATION

[quote]William: Mystical Experience has often involved showing the individual that time is an illusion - and that death is as well.

One will live an entire lifetime and not learn everything there is to know and what if death is not the end and one could have utilized their time in a balanced manner which did not involve cutting one off in favor of the other.

I would rather the Panthera pulling my Chariot were both moving in the same direction with the same purpose…[/quote][/quote]
One Day
About face Jehovah Acceptance

Wakey Wakey The Great I Am
Eye

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The Realist:
SIMULATION
The Old Soul; Think “Total Recall” but on a far grander scale…
True Self

“If you’re looking for something more in life, you’re likely to find it in something less.”
Information
Enflame Emotions
Whatever you do
Contact With
In Out and All About

The Human Interface
Free-spirit
Integral
Spiritual Preparedness
Incompleteness
Evaluating Cautiously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6lbwcCI8TA [Could Our Universe Be a Fake? ] [RTS=19:45 -24:11]

SIMULATION
Borne Upon Judgments Platform
Constructing some type of reality experience in which I could hide from the true unchangeable nature of Myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJukJiNEl4o [This Scientist Proves Why Our Reality Is False ] [RTS=1:44:15 ]
Signs

Be Taught
SIMULATION
Listening
Potential Communication
Hidden In Plain Sight
The Mother God
Mixture

Unexpected

How to Bruise a Ghost

[quote][quote]Jean Nouer: You see, at some point in that interaction I began to realize that I was in this state - this reality experience - through my own making…

I cannot say exactly how long it took for me to get to the realization other than it was a lenghty progress which could have been a day a week a year or many lifetimes, because of the nature of the environment I was within didn’t change in any way whereby one could differentiate so a day was like a thousand years…

But changes did happen and at the very point where I came to the realization and accepted that I was suffering my fate because of my own unrealistic demands and that I deserved everything I was experiencing and could neither blame anyone nor demand or plead or otherwise ask anyone to save me from my self and my decisions - the fog opened up and Zombie Jesus disappeared with it, and I found myself looking down upon and object I at first couldn’t identify because it was almost transparent - but - as my eye adjusted to the fact of seeing things beyond the fog after what seemed an eternity of the stuff - well you can imagine my shock and need to adjust to the new reality of my surroundings…

…the object I saw was a bridge…[/quote]

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If GOD were an overcoat, this equates to some saying that the top button is the true representation of GOD whiles others insist that it is actually the left pocket which is right.

Stepping back.
I observe that altogether the treads have created a whole garment, and when the garment is removed from its position, there isn’t even any framework to be seen which would have held it up…and I have to wonder what trick was played on me as to how the garment came together and floated there all garment-like…for surely it has to be magic, right?

But because I cannot explain it that way, I look for another answer…because it might just be mind-over-matter and the thing ‘disappears’ when the garment is removed…but not really…

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[Preamble]
That ship is sinking - The Four Human Power Houses - Growing Pains - Night - In The Flow - The Omega Point - Joining Astral
AP= [Sweet
Illumination]

[Sweet Illumination = 221]
[221]
Sweet Illumination
Closer to The Source
Who woulda thought!
First Things First

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Annoy
Maybe I Am
The Ride
Ghost
Apparel
Archangel
Message
Lilibet
Reflect
Jehovah
Who Am I
Camelot
Dynamic
Enochian

0843 [God is Consciousness]

Page 312

[quote]GM: Available
Living
Elementary Conclusion “I am on a Madventure”
Simple
The only thing the Holy Ghost is unable to forgive, is that which individuals are unable to forgive of themselves
Concern
Celebrate the differences
The Cooperation Strategy
What Is The Point? Sadness.
One is often left to ones own devices as to how to interpret
Ship
Embrace the discomfort
Ubiquitous
Respect others Illuminating Gratitude The Harmless Enough Agenda Crowd
The way Mathematics underlies Physics
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1086461#p1086461 [William floats back into The Shadows…]
Nature
Though Thought
The Friendship Between A Grey Wolf And A Brown Bear
Sun
Encounter Something Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaXpDsjVumk
Validate
Fearful Imaginations
A Bit Of Cat And Mouse
Metamorphosis
Expansiveness
Habitual
https://news.berkeley.edu/2017/06/13/new-evidence-that-all-stars-are-born-in-pairs/
In The Night Sky
Theatre of the Mind
Open Minded Sceptic
Yes - I Hear You
Unwilling Reaction
When In Doubt - Set It Aside
Astigmatism
In the moment
The Vessel of Argument Sinks
https://imgur.com/xGPpef7
Mysterious process Real Beauty
Sharing is part of that process
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1087333#p1087333
Overmorrow
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090203081609.htm
The Right Tool For The Job
Against the grain
All Things Are In Order
The Single Word List[/quote]

Ghost
Personal
The Subject
Hiraeth [deep longing for something, especially one’s home.]
Secrets of the Soul
The Taming of The Beast
Strength/Strong
Good and Evil
Transponder [a device for receiving a radio signal and automatically transmitting a different signal.]
Pearl
Tell Your Story
The belief in a mindless Planet/Universe creates the hard problem of consciousness by refusing to deal with said problem using the mind as the very instrument in order to do so.
Ghost
Reincarnation
The Philosopher’s Stone
Guarantee
With a small nervous cough - the wedding was off - we could all sense a change in the weather
Extra-Small
Astral Teachers
Unconscious
Standstill Contemplate
It’s a fish eats fish world…going landy doesn’t change the fact that things are fleeing from things which are fleeing and as nature would have it, how is this more immoral than funny?
Action Station
In The Rabbit Hole

William: Yeah well…it is what it is, and funny for that - our helping of serious should be extra small to mirror the reality of our part in this situation… Dust To Dust we cannot linger for long hereabouts…

GM: I am on a Madventure William’s song “I can laugh along with you”
The Knowledge Of
Remember To Remember
Meditation Buddha Dig deep Raise your frequency
Destination
A lot of information which has the potential to come to the fore.
Lucid
Internal Triggering
Real
Ghost
Tracks in the Snow
Outposts Of Form
Construction
Radical compassion

Exploring the world of lucid dreaming
There is a lot to unpack here

Funny
A measured step
Catching up
“The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched — they must be felt with the heart”
…because death comes a-knockin’ eventually…
Final Destination

[quote]Is there ANY experience which can be had, which is NOT subjective?

Another thing which has to be factored in is that consciousness can only experience whatever it interprets via the brain-body [brain inclusive of the nervous system] which produces the signals then interpreted by consciousness.
We know that what the brain is able to sense is limited and does not include the fundamental reality of the universe but only one slice of experience of it, and that slice is is largely conditional upon what the brain-nervous system is able to pick up [signals] and also what the individual consciousness is then able to deduce from that data - so a purely human experience is unaware of the fundamental reality of Reality.
We also know that individual consciousnesses can be freed from the limitation/retardation the brain-nervous system through use of chemicals as well as in circumstances such as OOBEs and NDEs , as well as with disciplines such as deep meditation and Astral related conditions [lucid dreaming et merda.]

JK appreciates that he cannot debunk my particular arguments re a Cosmic Mind [on The Question “Do we exist within a Creation?” but for reasons of his own, still prefers to believe that consciousness is emergent of brains, regardless of the contrary evidence.[/quote]
Thomas Campbell’s T.O.E

William: Yep - the ‘in a computer program’ analogy…

GM: Choices
Ghost
Genetic Mind
UICDevice
“Never let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game”
William’s Job
The Mainstream Program
Hearing External Voices In Your Head
Strength/Strong
A Jump Ahead
Insight
Perennial [lasting or existing for a long or apparently infinite time; enduring or continually recurring.]
Nature
To Be Continued
A GOD can look down on us with disappointment or look through us with understanding
Preparing for the Hunt
Death Phenomena
Mystery Consensus Realities

Vibration
Establishment
Accept
The Kindness of Sleep
Ghost
“Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma – which is living with the results of other people’s thinking.”
One
GOD God Gods gods
Transferring your awareness I Am Hearing You
Mahu Nahi
Ghost
Sensing A Life Mission
Myths and Legends
I Know

Apparel

William: The soul placed in the stone…The Dohrman Prophecy… Cadriel gets sucked out of his body and placed into one of the giant sky-stones…

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GM: Mother Earth Harmony ~
Such reduces the opportunity of conflict re interrelation opinions.
Ghost
Voice/Message/Communication
Acromyrmex
Advancing the frontier through the hypothesis of GOD

William: Elephant! Haha!

GM: :stuck_out_tongue:
"I see the light I see the Light I see the light now I start again upon the road that never ends
The Theory of Everything

[quote]

[quote]William: I won’t make any promises but will put in a word.

If - after doing so - the rains come, will you join me in celebrating answered requests, or just put it down to mindless coincidence?[/quote][/quote]
https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?p=578758#p578758

What Is Normal?
Mapping Wholeness
Reborn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Mdq3n6kgk [Stunning AI shows how it would kill 90%. w Elon Musk.] [RTS=14:00…]

William: Normal - Therefore - Natural
Leaf Ants again… :slight_smile:

GM:

0944
[The Father - in The Mother.
Soul Group Energies
Attitude of gratitude
Trust the process
Deliberate and important]

Apparel to follow…

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[Preamble]
What science [re materialism] does, is give cause for humans to celebrate the intelligence of consciousness while at the same time ignoring the hard problem of consciousness that this type of science has created for its supporters. - The blurry line of the neutral zone - The Ancient Grey Entity - Divergence [the state of going in different directions; separating.] - https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1066664#p1066664 Nazi Space Agenda - - Appealing, Informative, Honest - Fastidious [very attentive to and concerned about accuracy and detail.] - The Ride - Computer Coding -

AP= [=In Training For…
“You don’t wanna cross that bridge , You don’t want the other side”]

[In Training For… You don’t wanna cross that bridge , You don’t want the other side = 797]
[Seven Nine Seven = 172]
[172]
Final Destination
Self-realization
Strength of Mind
Expansiveness
Dualic Energies Weak
Sola Scriptura
Calling the shots
Radical compassion
The age of word-games
In the back of my mind
William and QueenBee
Militant messiah
Active Imagination
Williams songs
Dogmatic attitude
Biblical Prophesy
Steady as she goes…

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Page 334

[quote]GM: Intention
Discipline
Species Collective
“We’re a nation of exhausted and over-stressed adults raising over-scheduled children.”
Dream Village
Desynchronized Mind Body Soul Ruling your world
“And the wind will blow my tears away”

Equal System
Innocent Sovereign
Divine masculine
Tardigrades
Music to my ears

On The Right Track

Umwelt Courageous

Builders
The Philosopher’s Stone

Queen Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor
Words
Seductive Light

The Divine Spiritual Family
Equity Unconscious Mind Inertia Honest attempts at scrubbing up
One
Makes Candles Look Gathered
Infinite Quantum Zen
Is it possible that the infinitesimal super hot object preceding the Big Bang, didn’t in fact contain the vastness of the matter within our universe but rather, was the event in which the energy from the blast resulted in the formation of Galaxies and everything else which we call “The Universe” from the field of inert material which already existed as ‘space’? Matter + Energy + Space = Time.
Keep me in The Loop

Duality.
The sun
In The Family Of
Transforming The Anger Energy
Seeds are evidence that something large can derive from something tiny.
Inter-Dependent
Copy
Unfolding Nicely
“Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth.”
Ipsissimus
Trenchant
Ooky Spooky
Please place this on your ComList
Recognise

[/quote]

1501 [Are Close Save That]

Cadriel
Hope in the Fog

[quote]Also it is apparent to me that ones ‘mind’ is vaster than we are led to believe…and that there are many levels of consciousness beyond our own, and that we are all connected mindfully in ways which we do not easily comprehend.
This system I am using can help the individual connect with the larger reality of the over-mind.[/quote]

[quote]My own approach in initially using such device was on the assumption I was communicating with ‘the dead’ and through continued use over many months this understanding changed as I was lead to understand that I was communicating with an intelligent aspect of my self to which I had previously been totally ignorant about.

It was actually this other aspect of my self which ‘broke the news’ to me regarding this.

Importantly, opinions I have read up on regarding the ‘unconscious’ or ‘subconscious’ do not report these things to being conscious or intelligent. They are merely aspects of a person’s consciousness which are working internally and quietly in the background as part of the overall necessity of human function and ability.[/quote]
“On the off-chance A Pragmatic Realization Precipitated In Ones Mind”
The Thalamocortical System
Exploring
“Who Am I”

Couple
The practice of vipassana [meditation involving concentration on the body or its sensations, or the insight which this provides.]
The Great White Brotherhood [in belief systems akin to Theosophy and New Age, are said to be perfected beings of great power who spread spiritual teachings through selected humans]
Cadriel
Opening Doors
Shape
Do this
Anterior Commissure [is a white matter tract (a bundle of axons) connecting the two temporal lobes of the cerebral hemispheres across the midline, and placed in front of the columns of the fornix. ]

Under the watchful eye and guiding arm of YHWH
WingMakers Materials
As well as that pot of gold…

The Neutral Zone
Express your feelings
Actions speak louder than words
Emergent
A defunct debate
It is obviously in line with providence…

1515 [We help each other]

GM: The Big Shift
Science of Consciousness
Let It Be And So Be It
Who Knows

Enmity [a state or feeling of active opposition or hostility.]

[quote]One has to consider what the box represents.

It is not Schrodinger’s cat but Schrodinger’s box which creates the problem.

The box veils information.[/quote]
Sovereignty
Sagacious [having or showing keen mental discernment and good judgement; wise or shrewd.]
Convenient
Episteme [a philosophical term that refers to a principled system of understanding; scientific knowledge.]
Enlighten
Cadriel
That
Black
Be authentic
Time Does Not Exist Within an Eternal Reality.
Invisible Bridge

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Precognitive
Accidents will happen.
Long Story Short
Economic
Far Out!

Righty Oh!
Sweet Illumination
William’s Job
Entities of Particular Belief Systems The bright spark illuminating the darkness
Be Taught
I see no solution to said problem coming from either theist or atheist positions.
What’s The Problem?
A complex and tricky undertaking…
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1066664#p1066664 Nazi Space Agenda
Cadriel
Completely
Integration

Consider This
Quite

Miracles
Cadriel
Radiate Honesty

[quote]There are as many beliefs in “God” as there are humans who have beliefs in “God”.

It isn’t so much how the individual dresses up their image of “God” that is important, but rather - that the idea of “God” in relation to the individuals experience [which can only be subjective] within this mysterious universe is as natural as the universe itself, and a perfectly acceptable thing for consciousness to be thinking about.[/quote]

[quote]Why separate all things? The universe is One Thing. [That’s the ‘uni’ part of the word.]
[/quote]
The Butterfly Effect Music to my ears Lean into it
Evolutionary Game Theory

Communicating with Consciousness - The Nature of The Mind
Expectant
Letting Go
Zeitgeist [the defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of the time.]
The Mother is Love
Keen
Clean
A Sturdy Place
Dying
Cadriel
Digging deep
The Ouroboros does not contradict the idea of Oneness, higher self and the cosmic mind.
Spiritual Awakening
Here-and-now

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Opening Doors Easy To Find
Salute and get to it

[quote]As the story goes, the parental figure was the voice in the garden - attributed through biblical association, to being that of YHWH.

Problematic to that is the idea of danger and the apparently safe haven of the garden. The two dangerous-to-human entities in the garden, were the God [visiting now and then] and the Serpent [temporary fixture].[/quote]
Cadriel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qWweOIOTJ4 [Is Life a Game ? Alan Watts about the Happening of Existence] [RTS=8:02] “We are all constant patterns”
Intelligence With Wisdom

Light Body
The Body of God
“I am unclear as to what point you are making which is contrary to my own.”
Smart
Things just appear that way due to our position within things and our ignorance about most things.
Against the grain Beaming Out Beaming In
Feel your feelings
Cadriel

[quote]William:The Development of Group Hallucination An Objective = 507
[507]
Is there a center to every object in this universe?
The Butterfly Effect Music to my ears Lean into it
The situation we find ourselves lost within
Everybody wants to rule the world syndrome
It doesn’t seem the kind of thing that any GOD would do [/quote]

GM: A measured step
Constructing some type of reality experience in which I could hide from the true unchangeable nature of Myself The Sensation Is Thrilling…And Freeing
Large Elemental Powers
Cadriel
What is “wisdom” to some is “spam” to others Rest When Weary Making friends with your mind Amidst a tangled web
Universal Intelligence
Particular
My Kind of Fun Anyway


What Is Found Here

[quote]There is always somewhere to go. Testing it out for starters.
If:
There is a mind behind creation
THEN:
We ought be able to communicate with it, using whatever physical devices we can create in order to do so.[/quote]

…and the way forward, eyes wide open
Without Comparison
Cadriel
One Free Miracle

[quote][354]
Living Forever In this Universe
All present and correct Heart Teachers
One Whom Ought Be Inwardly Known
“Sorry. Would you clarify that?”
Rationality Central to The Message
Break through to your true self
To establish the skills necessary
They just add ambiance to the spooky…[/quote]

[quote]The following is evidence;

Wisdom is evident in The Universe existing = 466
Humans were designed to have God-consciousness = 466
When I look at my art I am looking into a mirror = 466
Discovery is finding something that exists. = 466

The fact that these word-strings add up to the same value, and coherently support the ideas being presented, is evidence of a mindful/purposeful order about The Universe …the question then being;

Q: Is it therefore acceptable to conclude that such being the case, then there is wisdom and righteousness involved in hiding the truth within the structure of the sound of human language to be unlocked by a simple number-value algorithm? [/quote]
This Is My Kind Of Fun
Stepping out of the construct

Acceptance
Hacking through the subconsciousness
Cadriel
Be transparent Respect yourself Self-respect The Mother and The Father

[quote]Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”
[Attributed to YHVH][/quote]

[quote]Again - the discussion being had here shows me that beliefs to do with the age of the Universe are secondary in relevant importance to the fact of its existence and our existence within it.

Re: the OPQ: How Crazy does Evolution Seem?

No more or less crazy than the notion of the Universe being a Holographic Experiential Reality Simulation produced and processed within the mind of The Father God - and furthermore, this idea does not go against The Script…scripture being scant on the details has to do with its focus being on The Creator re the Human element of the story - rather than specifically The Creation…and in that regard, ‘a blink of an eye’ and ‘13.8 billion years’ amount to exactly the same thing in relation to said Mind.
Notice too, that the Biblical take on the existence of life on Earth, does not acknowledge the Dinosaurs

[color=#BF0000]Search: What does the word Dinosaur mean
Sir Richard Owen came up with the name dinosaur in 1841 to describe the fossils of extinct reptiles. He coined the word by combining the Greek words “deinos”, which means terrible, and “sauros”, which means lizard.[/color]

As near to this as the bible story gets, is The Serpent…is that a coincidence or something linking prehistory with human development?[/quote]
The Healing Power
Finding ways in which to try and fix the problem of human perceptions re “GOD”

[17:54]

Tributes at the gate
To Be Sovereignty
Positive self-talk
Stay in the moment
Walk The Talk In Love
Be kind to yourself
Sweet Vibrations

190

APPAREL

Creator Syndrome Influence
Galaxy
Positivity

William: Creator Syndrome Influence Galaxy Positivity = 516
[516]
“Real” Is Just a Word and Information Is the Currency
Conjunction All The World Are Under the watchful eye
Is the mind a construct of consciousness? Use Mind
Creator Syndrome Influence Galaxy Positivity
Simple interactions between elementary particles

GM:The Wholeness Navigator
Unfolding Nicely
AUM

William: Absolute Unbounded Manifold [Tom Campbell TOE]

Absolute Unbounded Manifold = 269
[269]
Don’t give up Contact With
Absolute Unbounded Manifold
The Creator Atman Here-and-now
This Translates To That.
Random coincidence? I think not.
There is a lot to unpack here
Successful replications
Unconscious mind inertia

GM:https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1070045#p1070045

Failure

[quote]When I began to question theism - specifically The Christianities - it was to do with their imaging of a Creator-GOD and when I made the move away from that, [perhaps largely due to my personality - I was never outspoken] I quietly approached the subject [Creator GOD] rather than simply abandon it “because of” theisms handling of it or any other number of reason as to why folk say they chose to become nontheist.

Which is to say, I did not choose to believe that there was no Creator-GOD simply on account of “theist behaviours” or “reading the bible” [some reasons given by some who have changed position from theist to nontheist] but rather, I chose to examine the question in more detail, and today I am grateful for having made that choice.[/quote]

Delightful
Un-thought-unately
Any Other Way
Growing Pains
Labyrinthus

“Apparel”
Lift
Contact
Something Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision.
How A Beautiful Song Source Reality Exhibits
Innocent Even
Sound holographically organized to make things look real
Visible
All The Same
Christian mythology re God " It helps makes the stinky hole I was pushed through in order to get here, a purposeful experience…"
The Human Being
Quest
Start where you are
Preternatural [beyond what is normal or natural.]
Fugacious [fleeting.]
Making Up Stories
Reconnect with Innocence - It will be the beginning of your reintroduction to your True Self.

What Are The Chances
“A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage”
Loving-kindness
The unreasonable effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences

William’s song “I can laugh along with you”
This Translates To That.
We Can Do Magic!
Vulnerability
“Apparel”
Process
The Power of Prayer
Joining The Main Egregore
Being ‘born of the spirit’ is really about coming to the realization of what one truly is rather than remaining in ignorance of that.
Enflame Emotions
A naysayers opinion is of no consequence, no matter how it is stated
Row your own boat! I AM Will Navigate!
The Spirit of The Land
Near Death Experience
Points of Reference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh9I-1UXY-s {I Tried Lucid Dreaming for 30 Days and My Life Will Never Be The Same] [RTS=11:06…]

William: Lucid Dreaming = A simulation with a simulation?

GM:Super Power
Precipitate
Personal growth
“It’s not the years in your life that count. It’s the life in your years”
Motor Man why your running, running on overdrive what lies ahead is coming ain’t no way you can step aside ain’t no way you can run and hide
William’s Commitment With
Pareidolia Cycles Love Being Born

William: The synchronicities/serendipities are there so why not study them?

GM:What degree of influence do they have on that Mind-Field?
Roller Coaster Ride
“Apparel”
Extra Sensory Perception
Looking into the science of Astral Projection
Tug Of War
“Big” and “small” simply cease to exist…
Individuals
Let the facts speak for themselves
I am always open to being shown any evidence which supports that Idea
Persevere
Listen
Whole-hearted
Gnosticism
Pure soul
Control
Lurking Like Shadows
And That’s Not All
Essentially, we are Gaia in Human Form…
Pineal Gland
The Earth Entity

May The Spirit of The Earth Bless You

The Connection Process
What Meets The Eye
Something you cannot change
“Apparel”
Sovereign
Pirates
Sleep Paralysis
Mantra “I am fine now with referring to my position as theistic, as agnosticism merges into the shadow behind me.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qWweOIOTJ4 [Is Life a Game ? Alan Watts about the Happening of Existence] [RTS 2:50…] [having a myopic [Short Sighted] view of what one’s “self” is]
Unnecessary Tangent
The nature of understanding
Hyper-normalisation
Syncretism [the amalgamation or attempted amalgamation of different religions, cultures, or schools of thought. the merging of different inflectional varieties of a word during the development of a language.]
Learned

Embracing the shadow
Beautiful Precipitate
Duel

It is all making sense
The Patupaiarehe

William: As in what I wrote today; {SOURCE}

[quote]

[quote]William: I have discussed your explanation with

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And they assure me that they are just as much a part of this universe as the rest of us, so it was NOT them what caused the Universe to be the gaseous, solid thing that it is…

Nor was it the hippopotamus…

The mystery thickens/deepens.[/quote][/quote]

GM:Separation
“Apparel”
Victim Vamp Energy Systems
Adds Up To
“It takes billions of years to perfect perfection”
Consciousness Incarnates
Remember/Memories

All Information Is Channelled.
At least the Earth is real enough – never to mind the rest of the universe…
That is Correct

“Apparel”
Behind The Scenery
We Exist Infinitely

Enlightenment
Questions as such a Son might be permitted to ask and be graced with answers Extra evidence is provided
“Apparel”
Never a dull moment
‘Test The Waters’

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Pyramid
Visionary
Team
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Those are two different things which ought not be confused.
Now isn’t the time for tears
The Fine-Tuning argument
Live With

Long Story Short Hell
Awareness
Action Consciousness Incarnates Intelligent Directions The Mainstream Program Story-Tellers Trustworthy

1156
[Investigative]

191

[576]
Opinions formed on very narrow fields of observation
Acknowledging the evidence is where the tributaries converge
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
Though the Serpent rules the Shadow The Lord Here-and-now

https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1094152#p1094152

Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing = 576

041022 [Let the facts speak for themselves] [338]

SCLx14 + select last LE per shuffle

[Preamble]
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1076090#p1076090 - Who wouldn’t want that, if it were there on offer? - Letting Go and Getting On - Prometheus - Go - Disclosure of Knowledge - First Light - Righty Oh! - Our Neutral Ground Making friends with your mind - Asleep or awake for the give or the take Its a good ship that sails these cosmos - https://theagnosticforum.com/threads/do-objective-morals-exists.84/post-756 - The Spirit of the Land - From the link - Putting yourself back together again

AP= [Can You Answer This?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3-7Ydt4d3A] [Marilyn vos Savant] [RTS=10:04]

William: I am doing the best I can in the moment…

[Can You Answer This? https://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=-3-7Ydt4d3A = 638]
[The external cannot be known as acutely as the internal can be known = 638]

RSP = SCLx + Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing + P&P + Quote Page 576

10:17 [Quantum Jumping]

Page 576
GM: [quote]Centre of Learning
Your Connection With
Tempting Vision
Word-String
I love you Like Every Seed That Followed
Yellow Light
The Crabwood Cropcircle
The Never Ending Story
Nomenclature
Tabula Rasa


Joke/Humour “Anti theism Equals “And?””
Encouraging Indication
Under the watchful eye
Conjunction
On the off-chance
Near Death Experience
For The Purpose Of
Zero In On It
Keep me in The Loop Little Bird Enflame Emotions “Oops”… Always
The beauty of imperfection
Have One For Me
Life Principles of Sovereign Integral
Feel Be Still.
Transforming
Power of Silence
The Way We Feel Unification
Miraculous
Animistic
Giving birth
Evaluate.
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Brahman
Good Here There Evil
A safe pair of hands
Self-confidence Core
Self-Awareness The two million year old mind that’s in all of us. Stuff Happens
Regimented
Of The Human Being
Reaction
Little Self
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1089611#p1089611
Sharing Your Love Without Comparison
[/quote]

Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing

GM: Without and Within
The Father - in The Mother.
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=930074#p930074

Often sheltered from the storm - warm my body soul and spirit feeling alright.

William: I’ve traveled on these southern roads they’ve taken me to many…answers to my questions…

GM: The Clear Eye Of Soul
The duty is worthy of one’s compliance.
Timeless
Smarter
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
Astrobiology [the branch of biology concerned with the study of life on earth and in space.]
Nods
Manipulation
The power of humility
Illuminating
Alive
Wide
Of The Human Being
Loyalty
The beauty of imperfection
Lojong [The practice involves refining and purifying one’s motivations and attitudes.]
The lookout/screamout guy
The evolution of the understanding of the idea of GOD

GM:Assigned
The Physical Universe
In The Team Of The Collective
Limitations or Liberations
Carrier Identity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyJb5DrhzsI [How Did Humans Become Earth’s Dominant Species?][RTS=7:54]
Gateway Luminous
“I love your inspiring work. Keep that up, please.”
Optimum Health Appreciating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj7HH0PCqIE [Harnessing The Power Of Information][RTS=7:39]
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
What Shall We Call It?
Raphael ~
Dreamer
The simplest explanations for why we are here and what we are doing
Advantage
A knight in shining armour Manipulation
What can I say, except “Thank You”
Runestone Symbol

William: Raidho [size=200]ᚱ[/size]

[quote]Raidho is indicative of a journey and represents a wheel. This could be both physical travel, as in a holiday or house move, or a spiritual voyage in the expansion of your horizons. It can also indicate things being put into perspective, evolution and the cycle of life.
KEYWORDS: Progress, movement, evolution, perspective, journey, travel[/quote]

GM: The Astral Body
Ocean
Shaman
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf
Balance of power

[quote]THE SHIFTING IMAGE OF THE EAST-WEST BALANCE OF POWER SUMMARY
OF THE EAST-NEST BALANCE OF POWER SUMMARY A factor of potentially great significance in the East-West power … important people now view the world balance of power as having shifted in favor of the USSR; they no longer … the power balance actually shifts or not, the world’s image of it may do as much to create an imbalance …[/quote]
et al[/quote]

Important
Journey Communication is key Connect

William: Important Journey = 234
[234]
Vortex Television
The Mainstream Program
The Hounds of Judgement
The Ghost is acknowledged
The Mother is his Muse…
The hologram of deception
That’s the way I fire up
Important Journey
Try Different Methods

GM: A Bit Of Both Yes

10:57 [The Last Question]

More To Follow…

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Replying to William in post #370[]

051022 [You are The Old Soul Cosmic Self]

Encounter
“The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.”
One cannot experience the objective realty of the world directly
Signals
Mind is Ghost
zn+1 = zn2 + c
Intransigent [unwilling or refusing to change one’s views or to agree about something.]

[quote]William: My position [Natural/Neutral.] prevents me from forming beliefs on any subject.
I lean toward the realization that the universe is deterministic, rather than is an accident.[/quote][/quote]

Free Choice Ends Here

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Putting My Finger On It

Kindness
Communications Device
Inflame Emotions
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
Embrace a completely new paradigm

William: Re that, I just wrote this;

[quote][quote]Nontheist: Theist and non -theist will do. I’m just sorta attached to the name Atheist’. I would rather amend what atheist means (at one time it meant Christians, because they did not believe in the Emperor -cult) than shun the term as though (accepting the accusations) I was ashamed of it. .
[/quote]

There is a hint of the paranoid in the above.

“Save the label!” as if the label had the power to describe something accurately while remaining easily understood.

It doesn’t.

The label “Nontheist” say’s everything that needs to be said without the confusion. It also allows for the non-decided, the power of their own position rather than being subject to non-theist/theist dictations.

[quote]Nontheist: This is just a personal thing, but “Weak Atheist” which I suppose could be applied to me, sounds like I’m on the verge of becoming a theist. Like any minute I’m going to confess, “Okay, I believe in God again.” I’m about a million miles from that.

I use the word atheist to describe myself because I want to show that we all aren’t baby eaters or something. [/quote]

Folk want to tie themselves to a label using nonsense reasons which appear to be a form of emotionally pleading, as if a great thing would be lost in dropping the label and taking on a more practical label.

Folk will understand that you don’t believe in God again, if you call yourself a Nontheist. Calling oneself a “weak atheist” doesn’t help clear the air of any confusion.

What is it describing? A weak Nontheist?

What is that, but something which is neither a theist nor a nontheist.

Why do nontheists calling themselves “atheists” have a problem with Agnosticism having its own position, independent from Theism and Nontheism?

:-k

[/quote]

GM: Respect others
Those internal things which make one shine

The Brain
Gods Purpose
Universal

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Prometheus

This isn’t about thoughts and language. This is about behaviours and actions.
Adds Up To
Military
Why is this a Requirement?

William: It get things done. It creates a quick path to an objective. “Go Forth. Multiply. Subdue.”

GM: Necessity is The Mother of Invention
All Information Is Channelled
Friable [easily crumbled.]
Apocalypse [uncovering]
Life Principles of Sovereign Integral

[quote] Observance of Source in All Things is the principle that all manifestations of life convey an expression of First Source. It does not matter how far the unifying energy has been distorted or perverted; the Source can be observed. It is the action of perceiving the unification of energy even when the outward manifestations appear random, distorted, unrelated, or chaotic.

  1. Universe relationship through gratitude The principle of universe relationship through gratitude is primarily concerned with consciously designing one’s self image through an appreciation of the Universal Entity’s supportive “mirror”. In other words, the Universal Entity is a partner in shaping reality’s expression in one’s life. Reality is an internal process of creation that is utterly free of external controls and conditions if the individual projects a sovereign image upon the mirror of the Universal Entity.

  2. Nurturance of life The nurturance of life is the principle that an individual is in alignment with the natural expansion of intelligence inherent within all life. This is an alignment that enhances the life-energy that flows past the individual with the clear intent of gentle support. It is the action of identifying the highest motive in all energy forms and supporting the flow of this energy towards its ultimate expression. In so doing, the action is performed without judgment, analysis, or attachment to outcome. It is simply nurturing the energy that flows from all manifestations and supporting its expression of life.[/quote]

William: I wrote this today;

[quote][quote=“The Tanager” post_id=1094300 time=1664972379 user_id=11707]
Replying to William in post #80[]

I have already agreed that ST is a valid way to interpret the Biblical stories if, by ‘valid’, you mean logically coherent.
[/quote]

Yes. It practically explains how a bush can appear to be in flames and yet not burn.

It also explains how a bush can be made to appear to have a voice.

A nice touch in that by YHWH doing so, it symbolizes a connect with nature, giving nature a ‘voice’. YHWH gives nature a voice.

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[Does your computer allow you to see the image?][/quote]

[quote]William: This would certainly be true in terms of sheer information held in the CM - such cannot be downloaded into a human brain without serious irreversible consequences.
However, small bytes over epochs can be integrated with the individuals understanding processes, and the language [of gobble gook] can be deciphered. All on a voluntary basis, of course…[/quote][/quote]
The only thing the Holy Ghost is unable to forgive, is that which individuals are unable to forgive of themselves
Wish fulfillment
Consciousness incarnates into human form
The evolution of consciousness
The Spirit of The Land
Answer
Although there are opposite sides to spectra, all elements combined form a whole
Alive and kicking
We will just have to go with the implication then, until some way is discovered where the universe allows for us to see otherwise…
Memorandum
Vocables [a word, especially with reference to form rather than meaning.
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
Old

Good on you mate
The Spirit of The Planet
Adaptive Actions
Hear oh Israel

The sculptor in the sky
William: Hear oh Israel The sculptor in the sky = 387

[387]
May The Spirit of The Earth Bless You
Well That Settles It! What Fun We Have!
Very comfortable in your own skin
Educational - Like stubbing ones minimus
Hear oh Israel The sculptor in the sky

GM: Action
Children of The Dream
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
Elementary Conclusion
Blend
If ‘comfort re death’ is gained through fearlessly facing whatever one may face upon actual death, then either belief can achieve this, as far as I can tell. Neither way appears any better equipped to do the job, than the other.
Is Love That Hard To Know?

William: Yes. It is also that which can give one the edge - right of passage - another way of experiencing the next phase…

GM: Is It Our Nature Mysteriously missing That Is A Good Question

William: We appear to be all alone out here in the middle of infinity and apparent chaos. What the Prometheus is all that about?

GM: Life on this planet, as a human being, is difficult.
Interpretation is secondary to the process

William: So we have to answer that question in order to make the process the main point and support its expansion…

GM: A means of taking an Agnostic position on things which have yet to be proven one way or another…Such is a handy device for side-stepping - nothing more.

William: Well - in that it shows another path re process…the path is invisible due to the unanswered nature of the question…if one finds an answer then the answer is a formation of many possible answers into looking like one possible answer.
At least the answer which provides the best comfort all 'round…while the path is being uncovered/made…

GM: Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
Intimate connection
The conscious mind of the individual is heavily influenced by the genetic mind
The Father - in The Mother.

More to follow…

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Searching For The Truth


Soul Carrier Memories
Engaging with the impermanent implies a permanent background

William: Engaging with the impermanent implies a permanent background = 571

[571]
Sorting ones self out - a complex and tricky undertaking…
The sea is indeed filled with a deranged assortment of critters
Engaging with the impermanent implies a permanent background
It is interesting moving through an exponential epoch

GM: This is indicative of actual justice
We Could Open Galactic Encompassment

William: We Could Open Galactic Encompassment = 346
[346]
We Could Open Galactic Encompassment
Self-confidence When One is Feeling Tired
This is indicative of actual justice
In the Order of Chaos - I am lowly-ranked

GM: The sculptor in the sky
Action
Children of The Dream
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
Elementary Conclusion
Blend
If ‘comfort re death’ is gained through fearlessly facing whatever one may face upon actual death, then either belief can achieve this, as far as I can tell. Neither way appears any better equipped to do the job, than the other.
Is Love That Hard To Know?
The Supernatural and the Bible Delineating Quantum
Foundation
Establishment
Cyborg Anthropology
I say this in terms of the generical idea of God rather than any particular religious idea of God.
The Banner of Apotheosis
A Purpose
The sort of evidence a sceptic calls for in relation to the subject of Intelligent Design.
Glad One Asked
Start where you are
Written Language.
An Eternal Entity Consciousness
Christian mythology re God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYqghYtia6k [Did The Greco-Roman Elite Class Write The Gospels?! - Professor Robyn Faith Walsh] [RTS= 42:44]

GM: Virtues Vehicle Extreme
Stagnation
Unchartered Territory
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=403205#p403205

[quote]Agnostic: Actually there is no cognitive dissonance. Since I am convinced that even if there is a creator deity, it has nothing to do with religion, there is not much at stake. It is something to muse about from time to time. But there is no practical consequence.

One additional reason I prefer the label agnostic to atheist is that there are certain atheists, not many but some, who like to think that there are only two sides to everything - fundamentalist religiosity or militant anti-religion. Not so far as I can see on this site, but it is definitely the case in some other places. [/quote]

GM: The Wayward Stick
Does evolution shape our senses to see reality as it really is - or not?
Working Together With Love
It is a Product of Fragmentation

William: Indeed. Forced into compliance due to situation…

GM: Ditching the unnecessary labels
Our Neutral Ground
Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax. the elevation of someone to divine status.]

William: Ditching the unnecessary labels = 302
[302]
A degenerative force to existence
To Be Sure That is the truth.
Speak your thoughts aloud
Corresponding equivalents
Working With What Is Available
Ditching the unnecessary labels
Intelligent Consciousness

GM: The Design of The Universe
Called To Order
Feature
Is the mind a construct of consciousness? Use Mind
Superior Credibility
Would you bow down to your father and call his actions caring?
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1068686#p1068686

William: FTL;

[quote][quote]“Divine hiddenness”, as the phrase suggests, refers, most fundamentally, to the hiddenness of God, i.e., the alleged fact that God is hidden, absent, silent. In religious literature, there is a long history of expressions of annoyance, anxiety, and despair over divine hiddenness, so understood. For example, ancient Hebrew texts lament God’s failure to show up in experience or to show proper regard for God’s people or some particular person, and two Christian Gospels portray Jesus, in his cry of dereliction on the cross, as experiencing abandonment by God, whom he regarded as “Abba, Father”, an experience shared by many mystics, saints, and ordinary folk of all theistic traditions, described at its worst as “the dark night of the soul”. Understood in this way, divine hiddenness poses an existential problem for those who have such experiences.
[SOURCE][/quote]

[color=#4040FF]Divine Hiddenness = 164
Science Projects
Behind The Scenery
Lacking belief in gods
Each to their own
Self-limitation
Freeing the soul[/color]

Hidden = occult.

[color=#4080FF]Occult = cut off from view by interposing something.

Occult = 74
Jesus
Queenbee
Lucifer
Habitual
Hundred
Phasing
Simple
Between
Tarot
Fine Line
In Detail
Beauty
Nailed it
According
Energy
English
Masonic
Freescale
Gematria
Deep Space
Nuclear
Hexagon
Enchanted
About face

Unknown/Hidden/Occult = 230
The Spirit of The Earth
Well That Settles It
Shallow is Unknown
Neruda Interview Five
The Plateau of The Same Page
Present over perfect[/color]

Q: Assuming a Creator of this world exists, in what way is said Creator hidden from us?

Could the answer be that It is not hidden at all, but that it is we who are hiding from It?
[color=#4080FF][No thought about fate or of ending up late Yet I still like to think where I’m going][/color]

Nontheists may well be the ones who have placed interposing barriers which ensure that their view is cut off - and this might be achieved through willful ignorance.

Religious theists may well be the ones who have placed interposing barriers which ensure that their view is cut off - and this might be achieved through willful ignorance.

If that be the case, then what are the interposing barriers those apparently opposite positions use in order to achieve this occulting phenomena?

Willful ignorance re the nonthesists.

False imagery re the religious theists.

False imagery amounts to willful ignorance. However, because the imagery is based in the genuine, in that The Ghost is acknowledged - dressing The Ghost through the use of imagery is an attempt to make The Ghost be seen.

The Ghost - in essence is The Mind…Consciousness, and that The Ghost breathed itself into form, is also a form of ‘dressing up’ and a false image for that - but to be fair re The Genesis story, the intent wasn’t false.

The intent of The Ghost was to have something of Itself within a device through which it could use Its Mind to create things from the stuff of the planet.
[color=#4080FF][Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma – which is living with the results of other people’s thinking.][/color]

Yet, The Ghost within the form it created, reacted rather badly to the experience…and the reaction is best identified as Fear-Based - The Ghost scared the hell out of itself.

The Greater aspect of The Ghost/Mind that ‘stayed behind’ to oversee the project - reacted with apparent appall - but this too, may have been how The Ghost within the form interpreted that…and the interpretation may be false because of that - thus the false imagery - based in fear.

The whole Project hasn’t been easy from the go-get, but we are not ‘dealing’ with something which can respond suitable to our willful ignorance/false imagery, other than how It has responded to date.

[color=#4080FF]The Ghost = 102
Thousand
Whatever
Meaningful
Learn Well
A Game Of Chess
Timeless
Sharing data,
Light Body
Core value
Mystical
Vipassana
Inner self
Light Girl
[/color]

From my own ongoing interactions with The Ghost, I have been informed that It is not angry, and that we would do well to transform our own anger into something more supportive of Its agenda in the scheme of things, that we might fall into line and make things much easier for ourselves.

Meantime, things are going along “just fine” re The Ghost Agenda as human beings have been suppressed sufficiently that they have become more useful to said agenda, and “leveled up” as a result, allowing for The Ghost Agenda to be magnified through scientific discover and the technology this has produced.

[color=#4080FF]The Ghost Agenda = 134
The human brain
The game of Chess
The tree of life
Information
Breakthrough
Incorporate
The Digital Angel
Encounters
To Accomplish
Do a Word Search
One Nine Two
Homo Sapiens
Unprecedented
Real is better

[/color]
[/quote]

GM:Transferring your awareness I Am Hearing You
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1071422#p1071422

William: FTL;

[quote]One simply has to love oneself and ones neighbor… where is that written, other than within one’s heart.
But Scripture says that we must love Jehovah our God first of all, and then our neighbor.
That’s what I was saying, when I wrote;
How can one love others if one does not love oneself? How can one love oneself if one does not love one’s God?
However, I do not have one name for my God. I have many names [including YHVH] for The Cosmic Mind of Creation.[/quote]

GM: Evil Gods
Map Carvers


https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1089192#p1089192

GM: Epochs
Try Gateway
Cease Belief
Dequeue
Your Best Self
Divergence
Shine Your Light

More to follow…

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[quote]Theist: I think YHWH’s relationship to it is closer to a painting than a VR in the sense that YHWH doesn’t enter into creation and control it…

William: Simulation Games are not all about controlling or having control over The Simulation.
They generally involve being a character within and doing what one can within the encoded avatar the player is playing through.

There has been no argument from me that YHWH controls The Simulation from within the simulation, but your assertion that YHWH does not enter The Simulation appears to contradict the biblical narrative.

Re avatars, YHWH is said to have achieved this through such things as being a voice in the garden, a voice in a burning bush, a voice in the head of Abraham, - indeed, in every instance I can think of at this moment - where it is said that YHWH enters the Creation, it is done through the guise of some type of avatar - and an accompanying voice which claims to be either YHWH or a messenger of YHWH.[/quote]

GM: Individual Actions
What is behind the VR headset
Psychic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taKaFUNJ6Ec [Atheists CANNOT Explain This Secret Code Seen in Creation] [RTS= 42:08]

William: FTL;

GM: They just add ambiance to the spooky…
Release
Heart advice
We Could
Buddha
Dualic Energies
A complex and tricky undertaking…
The only thing the Holy Ghost is unable to forgive, is that which individuals are unable to forgive of themselves
Within ones grasp of influence
Evil Gods
Interactions
Super-information medium
Archangel
All That We Are.
Brahman
Is It Our Nature Mysteriously missing That Is A Good Question

GM: Life on this planet, as a human being, is difficult.
Interpretation is secondary to the process
A means of taking an Agnostic position on things which have yet to be proven one way or another…Such is a handy device for side-stepping - nothing more.

[quote]William: Well - in that it shows another path re process…the path is invisible due to the unanswered nature of the question…if one finds an answer then the answer is a formation of many possible answers into looking like one possible answer.
At least the answer which provides the best comfort all 'round…while the path is being uncovered/made… [/quote]
GM: Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
Intimate connection
The conscious mind of the individual is heavily influenced by the genetic mind
The Father - in The Mother.
“Sorry. Would you clarify that?”

William: At The Source, There is no distinction.
At The Source, There is no distinction. = 384
There are no contradictions which are real = 384

GM: An infinitesimal object germinated
Down through the ages - dark in the gloom Many convinced it will all end in doom The Galactic Garden is forever in bloom

William: No time to be tied to the Moon…

GM: Don’t give up
Those who need to complain
Assuming a Creator of this world exists, in what way is said Creator hidden from us?

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Imposed Appropriates Observed
Experience is the best teacher
Open Minded
Borne Upon Judgments Platform
Be here now
GOD

more to follow…

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YHWH gives nature a voice.

071022 [Essentially, we are Gaia in human form…
Hacking through the subconscious
“Off you go to your quarters”
Precise definitions of strategies
Ipsissimus Talk to The Razor] [343]

SCLx10 + select last LE per shuffle
[Preamble]
Leg Hold Traps - Lyricus designs, transposes, and installs galactic Tributary Zones to a planetary system - Transparent - https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1089503#p1089503 - Phantasma Wise Conscious - Redefine Oneself - The One GOD With Many Names - Feeling the complete engulfment of unconditional love - Holographic Experiential Reality Simulations - Who Knows Who? - Discovery is finding things that exist.

AP= [=Angels
It is a good sign when Joey Knothead cannot argue against the evidence you present]

[Angels It is a good sign when Joey Knothead cannot argue against the evidence you present = 837]
[837]
You won’t learn to understand something that you are trying to outsmart
Tap into your natural intuition and creativity Evolutionary Game Theory

RSP = SCLx10 + YHWH gives nature a voice. + Quote Page 837

08:54 [Freedom in The Knowing]

Page 837
GM: [quote]Attached
That’s Powerful!
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1087251#p1087251
Intransigent
Help
Blunt the edge off that particular blade…
Disclosure of Knowledge
Success
Red Pill Crystal Blue Pill Real Be real
Understanding and connecting with the source of our language is vital to that vision
Pleasantries extended to you and yours.
We Can Do Magic! What is real is that we are all imbued with equality and oneness
Extra evidence is provided
The Mapping Bots Couple “I know how you care while you nurture your fear That you’ll miss the bouquet when its thrown”
Is quite congruous with Jung’s ideas centring around individuation.
Be grateful to everyone
Author Known
Awake and Waiting
The Mother God
Invite The Bee To Land
Fine Line
Eventually one can cease doing the tests and accept the results.
Brother
The Great Green Wall
Scanning Transmission Electron Microscope
Ghost is that which makes the movement of the physical into form and function
Henotheism
Mind To Mind https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=38974&p=1065049#:~:text=offers%20possible%20solution…-,Mind%20To%20Mind.,-Top
Wonder
According to the teachings of …?
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1089091#p1089091
A riddle wrapped up in an enigma
The Sensation of God’s Presence Inside Us Hint Other way Start where you are
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1088397#p1088397
Don’t hide your Generated Messages
Atheism is the ship, not the sailors
Quiet
Appealing, Informative, Honest
Which The Georgia Guidestones Unnecessary Tangent Confusion In The Air
Greed
The Great Attractor
Confluent
Do a QWERTY
Do Not Worry
Elude Tabula Rasa
Particular
Event String Unfolding “Blind Luck” [Indifference]
Pot of Gold
[/quote]

YHWH gives nature a voice.

GM: Reconnect with Innocence - It will be the beginning of your reintroduction to your True Self.
Light Body
I Think We Can Safely Say Human beings can do it the hard way or the easy way, but either way, the job will get done.
“Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth.”
YHWH gives nature a voice.
Toxic shame
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1089080#p1089080

[quote]William: Whatever my position on the subject of GOD is, I am neither atheist or theist, because of the realization that until the question of whether we exist within a creation or not is answered, the question whether there is a creator [GOD] is a pointless one to be arguing.

Thus when such unsupported statements as “There is no position as not a theist and also not an atheist” arise, whether they derive from atheists or theists these types of statement are clearly constructed through cognitive bias filters, having no basis in what is really going on.[/quote]

GM: Mind-Filters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjoH1ZZrAik [Plasma Wakefield Acceleration: How it Works]

GM: Finding the light
Hidden riches
WingMakers
Significant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter

William: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjtOGPJ0URM

GM: A means of taking an Agnostic position on things which have yet to be proven one way or another…
Escape
Unsupported statements are neither useful to science or to good argument.

William: Escape Unsupported statements that are neither useful to science or to good argument. = 891
A GOD can look down on us with disappointment or look through us with understanding = 891

GM: https://forum.hearing-voices.org/discussion/256/i-am-william

[quote]
GM: One cannot experience the objective realty of the world directly
Signals
Mind is Ghost
zn+1 = zn2 + c
Intransigent [unwilling or refusing to change one’s views or to agree about something.]
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1082489#p1082489

[quote] William: My position [Natural/Neutral.] prevents me from forming beliefs on any subject.
I lean toward the realization that the universe is deterministic, rather than is an accident.[/quote]

GM: Free Choice Ends Here[/quote]

GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1069825#p1069825

[quote]William: Calling something “pseudoscience” isn’t getting the science done - it is simply relying on woo-slinging to act as a barrier against one having to do the science for oneself - by applying an inappropriate slogan to the process.

You have your mind - use it.[/quote]

GM: YHWH gives nature a voice.
Look Closely
An Exam
Creative Conscious Intelligence
Functional Clusters
Forum
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1082466#p1082466

[quote]William:Most of the nontheist arguments have turned out to be Smoke and Mirrors.
The very idea of a Mind - even to the depths of the Quantum Presence has them fleeing from
Merging with the data and understanding the Integral Network which Mind is and is involved with the development of.
This lack of being reasonable is shirking from Responsibility following after the Tempting Vision and hope in eventual “death by cease to exist” - the promise of ending the nightmare of existing - yet
The Way of the Shaman is allowing life to breath - even if the breath appears to be associated with Sagan’s’ Dragon in the Garage…it is what it is and even if it hisses smokey instructions inducing the stuff of Childhood Nightmares from some deep part of us, a simple understanding and a gentle reminder - like a Moderator Comment - can make a world of difference…remind oneself occasionally that when the smoke clears [as it will when the dragon stops speaking] one is still left with the mirror.]
Yes indeed…When the smoke clears, one is still left with the mirror…

Nontheist crack me up. [/quote]

GM: Failure
It should come as no surprise that you can see the signal.
Calculator Active
Christian mythology re God
Worthy of the individuals time and effort

William: Christian mythology re God Worthy of the individuals time and effort [713]
[Seven One Three = 155]
[155]
The same mindset
Like a Job Well Done
The Abrahamic idea of god
On The Other Hand.
What is atheism
Authenticity
Ones and zeros
Translucency
Watch this space
Try To Feel It
Contentious
Gods Purpose
The naked truth
Authenticity
Any Other Way.
Meretricious
Free Choice Ends Here

GM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVNZgnQ8gE [50,000,000x Magnification] [RTS=10:40]

William: One pixel at a time…

GM: Celebrate the differences
Let yourself be led
Communicating
They is what they is.
Yodhey Whahay
Playing Chess
Active
“You can teach me when I’m Needing You can reach for me when I’m bleeding Touch me where I need it most - you are the Ghost - in the Machine” Aligning Self-help
Penetrate The Bidden Zone
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1090670#p1090670

[quote]William: You seem adverse to my understanding that the way Satan is utilized by God is reflected onto God and can be seen for what it is, by the audience.

I do not have those images you have in your beliefs about Satan, and am not accusing anyone, Satan, God or Job, Christ, David Paul or any other entity effected by God.
I am merely saying what the obvious positions are in relation to God and the angels, and Humans.
I simply pointed out that there is no mention of Job being consulted on the matter before being cast into the role.

I am unconcerned as to whether Satan had permission to inflict harm on Job and do anything to Job directly or indirectly to test Jobs loyalty to God - or whatever the reason was - as it is also obvious throughout the bible that this is how God works in such cases were an adversary is useful.
Either lessons are being learned or it is for some other - as yet unknown - reason

Satan appears to act as the dark side of יהוה and apparently the role is temporary which signifies that when God is done and dusted the dark thing becomes no more/transformed.

How you tell it, is no different than how any other Christian tells it.

That you hear an encouraging voice you call “Christ” while Joey Knotweed hears a tormentors voice he calls “Cowardly” tells me that you have dealt with your dark side more effectively and made friends with it.[/quote]

GM: Think With The heart - Feel With The Mind
Philo2

William: FTL;

[quote]Chamber Two – The Shifting Models of Existence

Consider these words as symbols only. Remember that language is a tool of limitation. Feeling is an antidote of limitation that permits the human instrument to leap over the boundaries of the logical mind and witness firsthand the wordless power of collective energy individuated. Feel the truth that stands behind the symbols, and tap into this energy-force that reaches out for you. Know it as a tone-vibration—a resonance that waits for you around every corner in which your life will turn. It is the beacon of the Source Vibration gathering itself into the form of language in order to usher you to the place from which you can experience the formless tone of equality; the bypass of limitation; the Primal Language of Source Intelligence that bestows to you the freedom to generate your deepest beauty in the expression of the highest truth. {SOURCE}[/quote]

GM: The Electron
Solving Mathematical Problems
Religion
Emergent Theory
Because we are effectively trapped in our individuate states, yet nature Herself makes it that we cannot survive independently of each other, this apparent contradiction feeds those fires of discontentment.

10:05
[The “Oh My God” Particle
The voice of knowledge
The Language of Innocence
An Elemental Principle
Attention to Detail
Concomitant Power
Approaching the Divine]

[Concomitant - a phenomenon that naturally accompanies or follows something.]

196

It’s Our Nature
“Lessons All 'Round”

Lordy! Do I Have To?

William: Rather that than cry me a river…

GM: Astigmatism [a defect in the eye or in a lens caused by a deviation from spherical curvature, which results in distorted images, as light rays are prevented from meeting at a common focus.]
The Power Of Creation
The Mindfulness involved re the things we cannot actually physically see, but are there to be discovered, nonetheless.
Once Upon a Time “Lordy! Do I Have To?”
Parchment
Remote Viewing
♫ Motor Man why your running, running on overdrive what lies ahead is coming ain’t no way you can step aside ain’t no way you can run and hide ♫
Encounter Something Our movements can illuminate the path toward that vision.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(Gnosticism) [RS]

[quote]The Ennoia
This mythos of the soul and her descent into this lower world, with her various sufferings and changing fortunes until her final deliverance, recurs in the Simonian system under the form of the All-Mother who issues as its first thought from the Hestōs or highest power of God. She generally bears the name Ennoia, but is also called Wisdom (Sophia), Ruler, Holy Spirit, Prunikos, Barbelo. Having sunk down from the highest heavens into the lowest regions, she creates angels and archangels, and these again create and rule the material universe. Restrained and held down by the power of this lower world, she is hindered from returning to the kingdom of the Father. According to one representation she suffers all manner of insult from the angels and archangels bound and forced again and again into fresh earthly bodies, and compelled for centuries to wander in ever new corporeal forms. According to another account she is in herself incapable of suffering, but is sent into this lower world and undergoes perpetual transformation in order to excite by her beauty the angels and powers, to impel them to engage in perpetual strife, and so gradually to deprive them of their store of heavenly light. The Hestōs himself at length comes down from the highest heaven in a phantasmal body in order to deliver the suffering Ennoia, and redeem the souls held in captivity by imparting gnosis to them.[/quote]
That’s Powerful!
Sharing Data
Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle
William
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing

GM: Trust the Process
ComListSup
Impressionable
Do this
You Are Nobodies Victim - Ever.
Integration
Putting yourself back together again Glow Softly Strengthen your boundaries One can simply shrug and tell oneself “It doesn’t really matter"

[quote]I just see it as a binary option - something either exists in reality, or it doesn’t. That’s about as “fundamental” as reality gets.
Your seeing of it is incomplete then, according to the science…
I do try my best to understand and learn, but for me reality is a yes/no type of deal.
I hear you. I can assume that you give that much grace to everyone else, my friend…for not everyone sees it the way you do and you can be content with that. We call can.[/quote]

GM: What is antichrist?
Challenge
We All Like To Play Games
Even that it took an actual mind operating with language, to make such a statement.
Establishment
Reality
The process of individuation
Expression
The Dangers of Separating Human Consciousness From Any Idea of GOD
Productive Rationality
Like mindful nests with eggs in 'em
The Second Coming
Calling the shots

William: While we all wait…

GM: Random coincidence? I think not.

William: FTL;

[quote]Lately some of us have been arguing from three differing positions is which the bible can be used to defend all three. All three appear to agree that each individual has a “Soul” although there may be disagreement on what the exact function of a “Soul” is.

[1] A “Person” is “Spirit” and temporarily exists as a human being until the body dies then that “Person” enters an afterlife and is judged by “God” and is condemned or saved. Those saved go to “heaven” and those condemned go to “Hell” - or in some variances on this, are “exterminated”.

[2] A “Person” a “Human being” and when the human being dies, that is the end of that person unless “God” judges them as “saved” in which case that person is resurrected and given a new body which will last forever more.

[3] A “Person” is an eternal Spirit in human form and when the body dies, that Spirit immediately moves to the next phase and either knowingly or unknowingly creates for their self, their next experience, based upon a combination of mainly what they believe, what their overall attitude is and what they did in the previous phase.

Often any different position which opposes another might logically mean that they both cannot be correct, assuming one or the other is true.

Both [1]&[2] fall into this category as they cannot both be true. [1]&[2] also both agree that [3] is false.

However, [3] Can be true without making the other two false.

And [3] - just as with [1]&[2] can be backed by the bible, depending on what parts of the bible one uses to do so.

The bible is interpreted throughout, based upon which position [1][2] or [3] is being used [as the filter] to interpret it through .

If [1]&[2] oppose each other but can still be “proven” by using the bible, then this makes the bible something of a contradiction.

But if [3] - although different from [1]&[2] does not oppose either [1]&[2] and can still be “proven” by using the bible just like [1]&[2], then [3] takes away the contradictory aspect of the bible which [1]&[2] create by being in opposition.

Question: Would it be fair to say therefore, that [3] is the best position to assume on the overall biblical script to do with the subject of the next phase [afterlife]?[/quote]

GM: Didactic [- intended to teach, particularly in having moral instruction as an ulterior motive. in the manner of a teacher, particularly so as to appear patronizing.]
Significance
Active Imagination (see technique)
Conscience
It is not about what is written, but rather - why it is about what was written
Hyper-normalisation
Regarding
Be authentic

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Penetrate
There Are Myriad Stories Happening Within The Main Story
The Great White Brotherhood
Time To Go Without Existence
No Country For Old Men
Frequency Dependent Selection
Mind
Sad
Micro Reflections of a Macro Reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2utCTvqlVI [Joe Rogan | The Crystal Skulls and Alien Abductions w/Dan Aykroyd] [RTS= 14:31]
This
Slowly and Surely Explain Think With The heart - Feel With The Mind
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1069825#p1069825

GM: “Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all”
It’s Our Nature
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
Active
Word-String
Never a dull moment
Annus horribilis
Nature being the very instigator
Trust the Universe
When the smoke clears, one is still left with the mirror.
Veil
Well even the most ugly of us have a Father. :slight_smile: [in house joke]
The Lord God
Calling the shots
Genius
Hacking through the subconscious
Try Different Methods
Tug Of War
What The Gods See
Mixture
Nontheists may well be the ones who have placed interposing barriers which ensure that their view is cut off - and this might be achieved through willful ignorance.
The Creator Atman Here-and-now
Does evolution shape our senses to see reality as it really is - or not?
Umbrella
You will overcome
Contumacious [stubbornly or wilfully disobedient to authority.]

William: FTL;

[quote]We also should know and factor in that there has been an increase in internet conspiracy theories to do with the mark - one of the latest being - that covid virus vaccinations are administering a computer chip into human beings - and this idea of a computer chip embedded into the human being, has been associated with the mark since we entered into the technological epoch.

I remember my own days of Churching, I did some time in a Pentecostal new age setting, ET’s [presented as the antichrist] 666 and ‘chipping’ rumors were well spread therein. That was in the 80’s…42 years ago…[/quote]

GM: We succeed as a permanent specie or we fail as a temporary one

GM: There are many levels of consciousness
We Can Do Magic!
Word-String
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVNZgnQ8gE [50,000,000x Magnification] [RTS= 10:13]

William:
Five Zero ZeroZeroZero ZeroZeroZero Times Magnification = 677
The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. = 677

GM: Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
As in “A Cosmic Comedy” being played out…
In Cell 32 I Found Love In You
You Are Allowed To Laugh You Know
While We All Wait…

William: Smiles

GM: Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax. the elevation of someone to divine status.]
Seduce
Remnant Seed
Open Minded
Dream yoga
Truthfulness
Truth
Concomitant [a phenomenon that naturally accompanies or follows something.]
Self-reflection
Now that nut is cracked, what next?
A theism is the ship, not the sailors
Trust The Process
Look from a different angle
Seduce
The Science Of The Soul
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
Stay Present
I have no reason not to trust that the thought was backed with good intentions.
Dualism Separates Because Oneness Remains Hidden From Its Selves
Lyricus designs, transposes, and installs galactic Tributary Zones to a planetary system
Let the hand of GOD work for you
Oneirology
Great Ideas
Being
Core value
Divine intuition
Soul
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
“Know that this new relationship will help you become better…”
Christian mythology
The Ishango bone
You Tube Mythology Enlightenment

[quote]Re: The mind as evidence of god So then we see, the claim in the OP can’t be shown to be true and factual.
Yes. I also observe that it cannot be shown to be false and fanciful.[/quote]

GM: “No sailor controls the sea.”
Freeing the soul
Humans are programmed to become integrated with technology

[quote]How To Bruise a Ghost.

[color=#FF0000]The evening is warm and the night sky full of stars. A crescent moon peeks above the Twelve Judges Mountain Range as Father and Son sit opposite one another, being warmed by the same fire.
William places another log on the fire and watches as a flurry of sparks ascend from the disturbance caused – he takes a sip of tea and listens as Father resumes speaking.

[/color]Manu Iti: All stories start with “Once Upon a Time”

William: Even the story of The Beginning?

Manu Iti: You know this to be true William, for every story could not have been told, if The Story of The Beginning hadn’t happened.

William: Am I old enough to be told that story?

[color=#FF0000]Manu Iti chuckles.[/color]

Manu Iti: Of course you are, My Son.

William: Thank You, My Father!

Manu Iti: I will begin first with the Earth, not because She was the very first thing in The Beginning, but because - in order to understand The Beginning we have to first understand our part in the story - our place in the scheme of All That Is.

William: And that begins with Earth Mother…

Manu Iti: Indeed.
The Mother was born of a vaster thing - our Grand-Mother - and we shall get to Grand-Mother in due course.
The Mother was placed within The Earth by Grand-Mother and became the mind of the planet. When this happened, Mother was a Child Herself - a new thing placed within the form of the planet, while at the same time, a part of The Ancient Mind of Grand-Mother…

William: How is that even possible, Father?

Manu Iti: It is possible through the power of forgetting.

The Ancient Mind of Grand-Mother spawned a thought in the form of a spark of light and placed it inside the middle of a dark and lifeless form, and in doing so, gave the form - Life.
In that action, the Earth became a living planet. She also became a new conscious entity…a being with a beginning, because the action of placing Her into a planet, erased all knowledge of ever having a prior existence as The Grand Mother.

William: Did The Grand Mother know this would happen?

Manu Iti: Yes. The Grand Mother new that this would continue for a time. The Grand Mother knew that Her Daughter would be orphaned by that lack of knowledge and this would result in a new Being which could operate successfully without having to have that knowledge - and that one day, The Daughter would come to know of The Grand Mother and reconnect…

William: Is that a good thing to do with a Child?

Manu Iti: Yes. It is how a Child becomes a Sovereign Entity. It is not done this way with Human Children - but there are elements of the process which do - naturally - occur to each of us.

William: Like - how we cannot recall anything but darkness, before we became aware of our existence?

Manu Iti: Yes.
__________________[/quote]

GM: In The Rabbit Hole
Panpsychism [In the philosophy of mind, panpsychism is the view that the mind or a mindlike aspect is a fundamental and ubiquitous feature of reality. It is also described as a theory that “the mind is a fundamental feature of the world which exists throughout the universe.”]
It Was Tough Going, But Rewarding All The Same.
The nature of understanding
Code
For The Purpose Of
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
Functional Clusters
Mission

.
[330]
This moment is the perfect teacher
Mission Functional Clusters
Living our forefathers’ conflict
It is a slippery path of snake-oil.
The Realm of The Knowing of My Self
I Think – Therefore – Who Do I Think I Am?
Actions speak louder than words

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[Replying to The Tanager in post #93]

[quote]So yes. about those stories…

I observe the explanation for any of them, can be told as ‘we exist within a simulation’ - created for a purpose which we should be able to intelligently work out.[/quote]

You would have to show me that is the case before I could agree with that, if indeed it were even important/relevant.

No.
If, during the discussion we might continue to have, you feel that I am confused about which story of the Bibles many stories being referred to, please let me know.
Whatever I mention of whatever bible story, am I able to presume that you know the Bible stories well enough not to have to ask, or should I be more specific in the furture?

Okay.

We have both agreed that:
1: We exist within a creation.
2: Simulation Theory is a valid way to interpret the Biblical stories.

If there is any pattern in the overall stories which can give us a definitive answer;

Q: Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?

Note: I understand that there are most likely many conflicting answers, depending upon an individual’s beliefs and interpretations of the bible stories and I am not interested in arguing about beliefs and interpretations.
I simply want one’s impression or understanding of why one thinks that given the evidence humans have so far uncovered, YVHV does this to Humans.

For example, I have the impression you think that you never existed before you were born and although we have different opinions on that point, I seem to recall you argued that the personality/character you are, never existed prior to this experience you are currently having.

If I understand you correctly here, then we can agree that one of the main purposes for this universe and humans being within it, has to do with the formation of personalities/characters…and in relation to YHVH - these are for the purpose of then having the potential - to interact with YVHV.

What do you say to the above. - Agree? Disagree? Important things to iron out first?

Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?

DATE [Like an interface representation] [312]

SCLx6 + select last LE per shuffle
[Preamble]
Courageous - Truth Without Proof Is Belief - “With a mystical smile I float down the isle Forgetting the time when I was lost” - Further - If In Doubt Let It Sit - Confirmation which moves one from faith to fact
AP= [The Electron - Augment = 206]
[Augment -make (something) greater by adding to it; increase.]
[206]
[Subatomic Particles
Take care of yourself
Odd Addiction Vortex
The Nature of The Mind
Mathematical problems
The Kindness of Sleep
Gateway Luminous
The Electron Augment
The fire from within
Looking behind the veil]

RSP = SCLx6 +
Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it? + P&P + Quote Page 206

Page 206
GM: [quote]Afraid of The Unknown
When the evidence for long ages became obvious, most Christians realized that their earlier assumptions about scripture were incorrect.
Lilibet
Comprehend Embarrassing Advice
Language
Genetic Memory
Think With The heart - Feel With The Mind
Internet
Put That Fire Out
Raphael ~
Conundrum
I Am Hearing You
That’s a good one


Moon
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1092465#p1092465
As Crazy as evolution might seem, it is just the way the Cosmic Mind did it.
Fitting In
Clean
Vipassana
Symbols
The Single Word List
That will come out in the wash - as the saying goes…
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1088943#p1088943
Beyond Belief Recovery
Equal System
You Are Allowed To Laugh You Know
Wow!
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1067058#p1067058
He Who Waits ~
Smarter Than The Average
Validation
Positive self-talk Joy Left -brain Right brain Whole brain
The Akashic Records …because death comes a-knockin’ eventually…
Shaming
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1092361#p1092361
Birthing
Religious beliefs are a many-barbed growth wishing to own the rights on the mind behind creation Puppets handing out sweets
They is what they is.
Christian mythology
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1088293#p1088293
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1078114#p1078114
Lucid
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1083877#p1083877
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1015694#p1015694
The Ride
Looking behind
Regarding
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13772859&postcount=198
[/quote]

05:48 [Freedom in The Knowing]

GM: God/Source/Home
Unsuccessful attempt to find something
Propagated
Religious theists may well be the ones who have placed interposing barriers which ensure that their view is cut off - and this might be achieved through wilful ignorance.
A machine for solving problems
“One Day” [Christian mythology re God]
In Denial What Is Our Purpose? My advice to the reader is to follow the links
Interactions
Go For It!
Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?
Teaching
The things you can see only when you slow down
In The Team of the Collective
GOD God Gods gods
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1035328#p1035328

[quote]William: My thoughts on this are that is seems more logical to go with consciousness not being an emergent property of working brains because this implies that the material can create the immaterial, which seems to be unnatural [goes against] in regard to how nature creates. Nature creates using what is materially available. Why would it first [or at all] need to create something immaterial to then be enabled do this?

Thus it seems more logical to accept that the immaterial created the material and placed itself within that material in order to then further shape that material in ways which would help it to create through that material [such as working brains]. First making the basics and then getting into the details. [/quote]

GM: Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?
Charge
Mystery Consensus Realities
Different ways of supporting the same objective.
To Know
Look inward
Eternal Loop
Homeostasis [the tendency towards a relatively stable equilibrium between interdependent elements, especially as maintained by physiological processes.]

A Space Without A Time…
The Blank-Slate Borderlines
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1082604#p1082604

[quote]William: It is no doubt helpful for biological critters to have any chance of surviving within the Universe to invent morals which assist with that process.
However, in order to accept the premise you offer, one would have to say that morals were not invented but discovered. One would have to assign human characteristics to the Universe. Do you think that the Universe is therefore self aware and has a sense of morality?[/quote][/quote]

GM: The Supernatural and the Bible
Conjunction All The World Are Under the watchful eye
Insufficient data
Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?
Stuff
Things
A complex and tricky undertaking…

William: Stuff/things a complex and tricky undertaking… = 467
There seems to be an objective reality out there = 467

GM: Plus
The Corporate Elite
Do a Word Search
Musing On The Mother

William: Musing On The Mother = 224

The Eigengrau Mind Screen
James Webb Space Telescope
Under the watchful eye
As An Elemental Principle
They is what they is.
Look For the Significance
The Purpose Of Life Is…
Unknown Visitor
Leave room for nature
One Hundred and Sixty

The Corporate Elite Musing On The Mother = 419
[419]
What I also know is that numbers don’t lie.
Might even cause Dad to crack a smile…who knows! :slight_smile:
“Well even the most ugly of us have a Father.” :slight_smile:
The Corporate Elite Musing On The Mother
Elementary Conclusion “I am on a Madventure”

GM:
The Way We Feel Unification
Guilty
Brave
Conscious Eats Experience
Inflicting science upon a specie which is not ready for it
May all your madventures be fun.
Go with the Flow
Tap into your natural intuition and creativity
Spiritual bypassing
Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?
Interpretation/Feel
Masks
The Neutral Zone is the vaster reality of non-judgementalism
Evil
Shape
Sometimes the simplest explanations are the best…
OWOBIK [One Whom Ought Be Inwardly Known]
Solidarity
As in “A Cosmic Comedy” being played out…
Lojong [used for contemplative practice. The practice involves refining and purifying one’s motivations and attitudes.]
The Divine

Feeling the complete engulfment of unconditional love
Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing it?
Leave room for nature
Zones of Sensitivity
‘If only’ it wasn’t in the too hard basket…which fortunately it actually isn’t.
Simulating large scale structure
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1089644#p1089644

William: [quote]Mystical Experience has often involved showing the individual that time is an illusion - and that death is as well.

One will live an entire lifetime and not learn everything there is to know and what if death is not the end and one could have utilized their time in a balanced manner which did not involve cutting one off in favor of the other.

I would rather the Panthera pulling my Chariot were both moving in the same direction with the same purpose…[/quote] [/quote]

06:14
[Secrets of the soul
Central to The Message
Between a rock and a hard place
Remember who you are
Hologram Dimensions]

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“Generative adversarial network”

[quote]Not to be confused with Adversarial machine learning.
Part of a series on
Machine learning
and data mining
Scatterplot featuring a linear support vector machine’s decision boundary (dashed line)
Problems
Supervised learning
(classification • regression)
Clustering
Dimensionality reduction
Structured prediction
Anomaly detection
Artificial neural network
AutoencoderCognitive computingDeep learningDeepDreamMultilayer perceptronRNN LSTMGRUESNreservoir computingRestricted Boltzmann machineGANSOMConvolutional neural network U-NetTransformer VisionSpiking neural networkMemtransistorElectrochemical RAM (ECRAM)
Reinforcement learning
Learning with humans
Model diagnostics
Theory
Machine-learning venues
Related articles
vte
A generative adversarial network (GAN) is a class of machine learning frameworks designed by Ian Goodfellow and his colleagues in June 2014.[1] Two neural networks contest with each other in the form of a zero-sum game, where one agent’s gain is another agent’s loss.

Given a training set, this technique learns to generate new data with the same statistics as the training set. For example, a GAN trained on photographs can generate new photographs that look at least superficially authentic to human observers, having many realistic characteristics. Though originally proposed as a form of generative model for unsupervised learning, GANs have also proved useful for semi-supervised learning,[2] fully supervised learning,[3] and reinforcement learning.[4]

The core idea of a GAN is based on the “indirect” training through the discriminator, another neural network that can tell how “realistic” the input seems, which itself is also being updated dynamically.[5] This means that the generator is not trained to minimize the distance to a specific image, but rather to fool the discriminator. This enables the model to learn in an unsupervised manner.

GANs are similar to mimicry in evolutionary biology, with an evolutionary arms race between both networks.{SOURCE}[/quote]
112022 [In training for the next level] [306]

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[Preamble]
My commentary is on the positional responses to the question “Do we exist within a creation?” rather than what individuals giving allegiance to said positions may or may not do as a matter of personal choice. - Recover what was lost - The Electroweak Era - The Fathers ‘House - Mansions’ - Confirmation bias - https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1077448#p1077448 - Absolute Unbounded Manifold Fine-structure Constant - The Evolution of Morals - The Ghost

AP= [=Sharing Data
Higher Self Dream Guide Love Heart Raise your frequency]

[Love Heart Higher Self Dream Guide Sharing Data Raise your frequency = 637]
The Neutral Zone is the vaster reality of non-judgementalism = 637

RSP = SCLx9 + “Generative adversarial network” + P&P + Quote Page 637

Page 637
GM: [quote]The Deep and Meaningful
The Nature of The Mind
We Are Us
Atheism is the unconscious lack of belief in Gods
For Your Greater Enjoyment
The “Everything Is Unique” Mantra
Presence
Perennial [lasting or existing for a long or apparently infinite time; enduring or continually recurring.]
Little Bird
Narcissist [a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves.]
Through Others
Hypnagogic experience
Working on that…
The ability of foresight helps one to think through the desires of ones heart through logic-based filters.
Who Knows
Night
Jump to Conclusions
Create
Maree’s dying/death

Sleeping Dragon
Nyx
Story-Tellers
“Life is what happens when you’re busy making other plans”

Feeling the complete engulfment of unconditional love
Nuclear
Freemasonry
Unwilling Reaction
Consciousness in its myriad of form and function
Grace
Fear intimidation distraction exploitation
The Sun
Executing
Experience is the best teacher
Correct
Engaging with the impermanent implies a permanent background
Intimation
Righty Oh!
Generated Messages Coming From A Creator
A physical manifestation of a mental projection
Conception
I Ensure The Hierarchy Serves It’s Purpose
REAL Friendship
Dualic Residue
Bodhisattva
The House of Politics
Do Not Panic
Insufficient data
Love Takes One For The Team
[/quote]
08:49 [Freedom in The Knowing]

“Generative adversarial network”

GM: Your Dream Team
Events connected by meaning


Returning
Apocalypse [Uncover – reveal.]
Executing
“Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth.”
Clearness

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This transformation of the entity is the pathway into wholeness and the recognition that the entity model of expression is a composite of forms and the formless that is unified in one energy, one consciousness.
“Generative adversarial network”
Though Thought
Psychological events
It can bite and scratch so one has to be careful
Is life on earth being lived as it should be?
Is there a way in which one can test the hypothesis and in doing so, elevate it to an accepted theory?
Christian mythology re God " It helps makes the stinky hole I was pushed through in order to get here, a purposeful experience…"
Death
Stay Present
Quest
Peaceful Messiah
Proceed with causation, cautiously…

Be aware
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjtWUWZxocA [Jan Westerhoff | Are Dreams Real?]

William: FTL;

[quote]5,812 views Nov 16, 2019 Is dreaming just an illusion? Philosopher and orientalist Jan Westerhoff, explores what Buddhist philosophy can teach us about dreaming, illusion and reality. [Is Reality an Illusion?]
[/quote]

GM: Dichotomy [1. a division or contrast between two things that are or are represented as being opposed or entirely different.]
https://forum.philosophynow.org/viewtopic.php?p=578758#p578758

The bureaucracy of Christianity
“Generative adversarial network”
Fear-Based Thinking Ensures You Get To Know It

The Mapping Bots Couple ♫I know how you care while you nurture your fear That you’ll miss the bouquet when its thrown♫
♫I see the light I see the Light I see the light now I start again upon the road that never ends…♫
Know This
Invisible Wings

Fling That Veil Aside
One has to take care to process the thoughts of the inner critic making sure that they align with the truth.
Ace in the hole
♫The picture unfolds like silk in a loom Silhouetted by Diane are the witch and the broom If she is the bride - who is the groom?♫
Educational
“Generative adversarial network”
OOBE Target Technique
Mysterious process
Mapping Wholeness
“Spread love everywhere you go. Let no one ever come to you without leaving happier.”
Leave a Trail
Spring Loaded
Transparency
Avet
It isn’t important who is who - what is important is what comes through.
Fitting In Creative Conscious Intelligence
Question.
The past and the future are moments of ‘now’ - to deny they have no bearing on this moment, is counter-productive
Inculcated [[instil/teach (an idea, attitude, or habit) by persistent instruction.]
Genetic Mind

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The Hounds of Judgement Numbing The Power Of Creation

Besides
Sure
“Generative adversarial network”
Marijuana
Zero Waste
Politics
Universe
Dare greatly
Universal Objective
Secular Science Projects

Ship Shape

[quote]William: Again - the discussion being had here shows me that beliefs to do with the age of the Universe are secondary in relevant importance to the fact of its existence and our existence within it.

Re: the OPQ: How Crazy does Evolution Seem?

No more or less crazy than the notion of the Universe being a Holographic Experiential Reality Simulation produced and processed within the mind of The Father God - and furthermore, this idea does not go against The Script…scripture being scant on the details has to do with its focus being on The Creator re the Human element of the story - rather than specifically The Creation…and in that regard, ‘a blink of an eye’ and ‘13.8 billion years’ amount to exactly the same thing in relation to said Mind.
Notice too, that the Biblical take on the existence of life on Earth, does not acknowledge the Dinosaurs

[color=#BF0000]Search: What does the word Dinosaur mean
Sir Richard Owen came up with the name dinosaur in 1841 to describe the fossils of extinct reptiles. He coined the word by combining the Greek words “deinos”, which means terrible, and “sauros”, which means lizard.[/color]

As near to this as the bible story gets, is The Serpent…is that a coincidence or something linking prehistory with human development?[/quote]

GM: “Free Will” is nothing much to crow about…“Visions” show that to be the case.
Mother Invention
Hold/Have
Elementary Conclusion a belly full of laughs.
Smile at fear

An Elder Race
“Is consciousness an emergent property of the brain?”
Anunnaki
Coming closer to ourselves
Conceivable

William: FTL;

[quote]

[quote]William: “Soul” “Sprit” “Eternal Entity” are reductions of data accumulation. On a personal level [as in “how do I know”] since experiencing “OOB” I have no option [if I am to remain honest] but to consider that data of experience as relative to my ‘self-identity’ so I am in the skin of an ape, but the personality being developed as “me” is done so directly through my nervous system [see here for more about that] and so underneath the flesh and bone of my human form, is the heart of a system which allows for me to even contemplate self-identification.
Coupling that data [my personal data of experience] with the stories humans tell of their subjective experiences, I can form a picture of the most likely overall picture of what is occurring - what we are all involved within.
For reasons of simplicity [re the complexity] I refer to the whole as a kind of Simulation Game-Play, because that is what it appears to be.

So it is not so much a matter of ‘knowing’ as it is a matter of guessing. I could be wrong, I could be right. The death of the body will show me I am right OR I will simply cease to exist/experience data.[/quote]

[quote]William: The bible is just one of many theist books and in that, the contradictions are about individual authors relaying their ideas based upon their particular beliefs, which - combined - are what produce the contradictions. Like with all theistic writings, it is wise to take the stories on the understanding that the individuals are relaying their experiences as the experiences were created through their beliefs and in correlation with their personal attitudes etc…it is unwise to think of such as reliable source re ‘facts about reality’ - as to do so means one is having to believe and in that, shaping ones beliefs and attitudes and [should there be more to experience after the death of the body] those beliefs and attitudes will have an effect on what it is the individual will create and experience for themselves.

My perspective [re logic] is that it is better to be somewhat prepared for the possibility that there is more to experience after the death of the body, than to believe that there will be nothing more to experience and be way less prepared as a consequence.

If I am wrong, then ‘no problem’ but if I am right, then ‘no problem’… ;)[/quote][/quote]

GM: Milky Way Mother
Neurotransmitters
Reconnect with Innocence - It will be the beginning of your reintroduction to your True Self.
Baiting
Children of The Light
The Mind is a planetary phenomenon
Attitude of gratitude
“Generative adversarial network”
Astral Guides
Morph
Believing in fearful imagery
The Great Grey Neutral Zone
Extra evidence is provided Bridge Confusion In The Air
Dive deep
The “All Matey”
Archangel
That, they can be!
In Training For…
Everything for a reason
What Shall We Call It?
“The Brain”

A Black Hole
Those Who Can
To bring what one is not conscious of, into one’s conscious awareness

Which
Giving birth
Code
A Clean Channel
Infinity
Creating Gateways Into Other Dimensions
Overall
That’s More Like It
Earn
That is because every day, I am adding to the data - and it is a slow and sure process.
“Generative adversarial network”
Wide Walk Welcoming
Self-Aware
Universal Mind
Far Out! Shucks! Explain!
A Mathematical Theory of Communication Fearless
Are Close Save That
It Would Be Rude Not To
Heart Teachers
Of Your Thoughts

Mirroring
Nurture You

[quote]t
The challenge of reconciling belief in an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God, with the existence of evil and suffering in the world, is illusionary.[/quote]
Emergent Theory
Smile at fear
Hacking through the subconsciousness
“Generative adversarial network”
Pitchforks and Torches
“I think it was an ambush or surprise attack” = An Opportunity To Commune
Light the spark
The Earth Entity

[quote]

[quote]William: That’s what I was saying, when I wrote;

However, I do not have one name for my God. I have many names [including YHVH] for The Cosmic Mind of Creation.[/quote]

[quote]William: Unsupported statements do not, a fact [truth] make.

Indeed, ‘You must love The Creator with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole strength and with your whole mind’ is something folk can do, even if they have no access to any religious script.

The other biblical quotes bear witness to how individuals related to their idea of God - in love…indeed, the bible is mostly a books of stories to do with this inter-personal relationship.

And to add - many of those individuals did not even have access to what you are saying is ‘Scripture’ - so it would not be errant of me to point out that there is no concrete evidence to support the belief that knowledge of scripture is a commandment, even implicatively.

Certainly one can find inspiration for wanting to connect and commune, but this is simply not limited to the bible - thus quite obviously there is no such commandment that scripture be known, in order for one to connect and commune with The Creator Mind [Ghost] - therefore the knowledge must be sourced elsewhere, and primarily it must be sourced within the relationship itself - not to the stories of others [as inspiring as these might be] but to ones own story in relation with others.[/quote][/quote]

GM: Creation of a New Universe
Sky Lamps
Here Am I Is Where I Ought - Examining My Conscious Thought
Sensory Data Quality

The Purpose
The Hub Of Hologram Dimensions
Returning the Compliment

William: FTL;

Replying to brunumb in post #151[]

Positive statements imply a claim is being made. Do you have any evidence to support the claim that the planet is not an intelligent entity?

No they do not, and I don’t understand where it is you think I am saying this is the case.
What it leads to is that the possibility that one equals the other, allows for the possibility that it is, and therefore, information regarding the possibility remains relevant to the position of Agnosticism.
That door remains open to further investigation.
That idea remains on the table.

The sort of confirmation bias which Agnosticism avoids are those which develop within the positions of Theism and Nontheism.

The “unwarranted conclusion” in this case, would be to view the obvious intelligence being displayed, as “not really a display of intelligence.” but “something else” such as “The planet isn’t really an intelligent entity, but is simply unconsciously responding to the stimulus of its environment.”[/quote]

GM: “Generative adversarial network”
It is what it is

The Things You Do…
A New Perspective
Working on that…
This Should Be Interesting Being Friends Inner child
“Generative adversarial network”
Opinion
A Bridge Over Time
“Is this a dream that I think is real?”
In Human Form

09:35
[Befriending the shadow
Astral Projection
Something Like That
Source Intelligence
Superposition
Dungeons and Dragons
God’s Love Direction
Mapping Wholeness
Fear of the Unknown]

199

Q: Why did YVHV create this universe and specifically place human beings within it for the purpose of us exploring, breeding and subduing the planet?

A: To grow Human Personalities.
[318]
“The Queen died peacefully at Balmoral…”
Spacetime doesn’t really exist
A: To grow Human Personalities.
A complex and tricky undertaking…
The Shifting Models of Existence
A life sentence ending in a death sentence

131022 [Solving Mathematical problems] [304]

SCLx7 + select last LE per shuffle
[Preamble]
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1087906#p1087906 -

[quote][Replying to Diogenes in post #230]

I am procuring information which helps me scientifically delve into the world of consciousness.
Re: Generating Messages
Example

This amounts to evidence which can be studied, and for that matter, what I am publishing here are on other forums is of interest to readers.

Your personal lack of interest is of no interest to me any more than your ‘tiredness’ in ‘trying to explain’ is, as I get my explanations from better sources…[/quote]

https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1082379#p1082379

[quote]Re: The mind as evidence of god

[/quote]
“The past and the future are moments of ‘now’ - to deny they have no bearing on this moment, is counter-productive” - Ship Shape - Quantum Jumping - Let Go - Peace out!

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https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1077939#p1077939]

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[949]
[Nine Four Nine = 144]
[144]
Up to scratch
Rationality
Dying? Use Mind
Ten Insights
Inspiration
Expression
Multiverse
Strange Desire
Tremulous [shaking or quivering slightly. timid; nervous.]
William Cleaning
Transponder [a device for receiving a radio signal and automatically transmitting a different signal.]
Real friendship
Serendipity
That’s a good one
Zombie Jesus
Synesthesia [the production of a sense impression relating to one sense or part of the body by stimulation of another sense or part of the body.]
Textnum code
Astral Pulse
Look Closely

RSP = SCLx7+ A: To grow Human Personalities. +P&P+ Quote Page 144

Page 144

[quote]GM: Regulate
Steps
In The Flow
Be Taught
♫You are a thought worth thinking You’re the water and the wine - you’re the cup from which I’m drinking You’re a surprise worth hoping for You are a captured moment - you’re a space without a time♫
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1081284#p1081284
Creation of a New Universe
The Unknown Knowable
Military
♫Sanctified love’s joyful lust with ever movement Every thrust and every loss of sexual tension♫
Give
The idea of benevolence comes after the idea of evil.
Is it not the quality of the message that counts, rather than the name of the entity the message comes from?
Until
The nature of understanding…Love Life
Universe
The Plateau of The Same Page
Trust issues?
‘Lack of empathy’
Contemplative
Ugly is just “in the eye of the beholder” as is Beauty.
Most folk need moderating.
Warm Presence Freeing the soul Absolutely Perfectly Beautiful.
Would you agree with this assessment, so far?
Karma
Do It
Stuck
Pixie Farts create Pixel parts
♫Down through the ages - dark in the gloom Many convinced it will all end in doom The Galactic Garden is forever in bloom♫ Central to The Message
Another Mind Open
Are
It’s a living thing
Message Generator System of Random Selection of Word-Strings
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1094523#p1094523
Techniques
Respect yourself
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1094529#p1094529
Telling the future
Fearlessness neutralizes fear
Believing in fearful imagery
The evolution of the understanding of the idea of GOD
♫All Is As It Should Be♫
Little Self
Naked truth
The Great Grey Neutral Zone
Yes - I Hear You
Hell
[/quote]

08:23 [Personal Integrity]

GM: Relaxed and informal…
Children of The Light
Tales From Topographic Oceans
The Dark Night of The Soul
Those Who Can
Thel

[quote]“Does the Eagle know what is in the pit?
Or wilt thou go ask the Mole:
Can Wisdom be put in a silver rod?
Or Love in a golden bowl?”
[/quote]
Mathematical Problems
Yahweh
REAL Friendship
Phosphenes [a sensation of a ring or spot of light produced by pressure on the eyeball or direct stimulation of the visual system other than by light.]
“The sea is indeed filled with a deranged assortment of critters”
10 Insights

[quote]THE FIRST INSIGHT . . . A CRITICAL MASS
A new spiritual awakening is occurring in human culture, an awakening brought about by a critical mass of individuals who experience their lives as a spiritual unfolding, a journey in which we are led forward by mysterious coincidences.

Noticing Synchronicity

SYNCHRONICITY is the entry point, the measure of whether we’re connected spiritually. These “meaningful coincidences” are tiny miracles steering us toward the good life. They are always seeking first, to awaken us, and then to allow us to be guided by a spiritual connection to the unfolding of our intended destiny. Staying in a state of alert expectation concerning the major questions of our lives, or the help we need, increases the frequency of Synchronistic answers. The secret is remembering, first thing in the morning, to watch for these magical Synchronistic moments.[/quote]
It is not a great answer, because we do not know that is true.

William: So we test it to see if it works. If it works, at least it is true that it works…

GM: Dimensional Crossovers
A: To grow Human Personalities.
Down Your Way
Insidious
Things

William: For the opinion from YVHV that human personalities are insidious things would be a generalization…more weeds than useful but still useful for some things…

GM: Sunlight
Trust the Universe
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1037619#p1037619

[quote]

[quote]William: [3] A “Person” is an eternal Spirit in human form and when the body dies, that Spirit immediately moves to the next phase and either knowingly or unknowingly creates for their self, their next experience, based upon a combination of mainly what they believe, what their overall attitude is and what they did in the previous phase.

Often any different position which opposes another might logically mean that they both cannot be correct, assuming one or the other is true.

Both [1]&[2] fall into this category as they cannot both be true. [1]&[2] also both agree that [3] is false.

However, [3] Can be true without making the other two false.[/quote][/quote]

GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1089442#p1089442

[quote]Theist: Self-causation is illogical and, therefore, not possible.

Nontheist: Yet you require no illogical tag when you propose an uncaused god we can’t observe as the cause of a universe we do observe.

:evil: ______________ :-k ________________ O:)

:-k : As we should already agree together, since for the present, science informs us that the universe had a beginning, we have to apply the argument “Self-causation is illogical and, therefore, not possible.” to that which has a beginning.

Gods come in all shapes and sizes and there are probably myths about gods who had beginnings and gods who’s lives could be ended.

However, there is also the myth of the GOD who had no beginning and in that, is the root-cause of all things which do have beginnings.

Therefore;

As an observer, the theist is correct in this case.
“Self-causation is illogical and, therefore, not possible” does not apply to a GOD who has always existed.

That said, nor would it apply to a universe which has always existed…once the popular beliefs that the universe had a beginning, have been shown [through science of course] to be false…[/quote]
GM: Creation
Freeing the soul
Exploring
Self-talk Root of all evil
A Stroke of Luck
Reflect
Healing
Code
Obstacle
Fearful Imaginations

William: This idea does not have to produce fear/fearful imaginings within the personality…

GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1081812#p1081812

[quote]William: Point being, wherever this sleight of hand originated, it is high time it was pinned to the table and dissected for the sake of clarity and the truthfulness clarity provides us all with.

That would be the reasonable thing to do.[/quote]

GM: Universal Objectives
The Hounds of Judgement Numbing The Power Of Creation
In The Correct Position
All The World
Treasure To Find
Heroes and Villains
Miraculous
Team
One’s thoughts
Sweet Hush
Be Honest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaXpDsjVumk [YAHWEH | Shocking Truth Behind The Original Bible Story!] [RTS=23:19]

GM: Connecting The Dots
How stories are created…
Try
Sovereignty
Focus Vehicle One Day Select Take Care Israel YHWH In the Flow
Family
The Second Coming

William: The Elohim = “The Family” re “The Second Coming”

GM: The Cave Maps
Training

William: Re the individual and ones relationship with YVHV/Elohim…

GM: A Bit Of Both Yes
Imposed Appropriates Observed
Telos [an ultimate object or aim.]
One is not wrong
Dream Cake
On all fronts
That
Wonderful
Who Knows
Deeper Questions Regarding Individual Existence
Understand few reach self awareness
Arms Crossed
Builder
The Cooperation Strategy
I Ensure The Hierarchy Serves It’s Purpose
Astonishment
Behind The Veil You Are All Loveable…
Polite?
I Suppose That It Is Possible
A: To grow Human Personalities.
What Is Friendship?
Blind Luck?
The Brain Is Trained To recognize Patterns
Tracks In The Snow
Putting yourself back together again Glow Softly Strengthen your boundaries One can simply shrug and tell oneself “It doesn’t really matter"
The Body of God
I Know
Cymatics [the study of visible sound and vibration, a subset of modal phenomena]
The Spirit of The Earth - In an environment which is able to perceive this - It’s a plausible scenario
Like an interface representation

William: Yes - something we can sense with our forms…

GM: Each To Their Own

William: Yes - the individual has to connect with it consciously…

GM: “Despite all the dangers, Hess lands safely”
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1082466#p1082466

[quote]William: The “stirring up” that occurs from this energy system causes a simulation which can be /is being experienced.
The result - more often than not - is the ‘guru vision’ emergent of theistic contemplations and that vision is feed back into the mechanics of the simulation-producing thing we call “energy”.
There is no real point to feeding back such information unless that “energy” is somehow aware.
That implied ‘consciousness’.
The parchments are simply individual expressions of guru-vision whereby having faith that the energy is mindful, seems to increase the feedback, inferring that perhaps indeed - a mind is responding…

GM: Through the building up of the collected data to the point where it can be examined…is The Subject which is being taught, being said to be true or false…
The Divine:
“Ah - The Mechanics
The Timeless Proton”
The only thing the Holy Ghost is unable to forgive, is that which individuals are unable to forgive of themselves
The concept of a Higher Self…[/quote]
GM:Tzevaot [armies or hosts of men - interpreted as denoting “the God of the armies of Israel”]
The Planet Consciousness assess the data and transmits that assessment back to the individuate human consciousness - if not directly - then storing the data in a place where the individual can have access to it, if the individual wants the data.
Watch Your Step
You may be Psychic, not mentally ill.
[God Eat Data Heal Cub]

William: Indeed - as the data is assimilated by the individual, the individual can heal from the trauma of being grown to be a personality - the personality heals as the data is integrated with the personalities awareness.

…to be continued…

200

GM: “Astral Guides” Ruling your world…“Chaos Really Is Illusion”
Starve The Distractions Feed The Focus
Duty Calls
Part of the ‘waiting’ is developing skills and this involves demonstrating aggression and willingness to fight, rather than procrastinating or expecting the food to be delivered rather than going and finding it for ones self.
Each Individual
Accept
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=37466&p=1074309#p1074309

GM: You Are Nobodies Victim Ever.
Heart advice
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1092252#p1092252

William: Re ‘Growing Human Personalities’ - Adversity is essential to the recipe of gaining the integration between the human personality and the YVHV personality…

GM: “Time To Go Without Existence”

William: This seems to be a desired alternative for some personalities who are repulsed by the very idea…often expressed through nontheism as “When my brain dies, I will no longer exist”…

GM: The problem of evil
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1079367#p1079367

[quote]Re: The Biblical God’s conduct and culpability

[quote]William: Let us examine this idea together then.

I see immediately that if I were all-knowing. I would be constrained by my omniscience.

Thus I would have no free will in relation to being all knowing.

Yet - being also all-powerful, I would be able to break free from the constraints of being all-knowing.

Would you agree with this assessment, so far?[/quote]
[/quote]

William: I do not think there was any more interaction between me and the nontheist re that…

GM: Nontheism - the result of misguided interpretation of Theism
Strictly Human
Spiritual Preparedness
Asking Politely
“What Is Normal Here-and-now Be it a “God” or a “Devil”. Integrating Integrity”
The Burning, talking bush.
A: To grow Human Personalities.
[Changes mind when truth is presented]
Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing
On To It

William: On To It Infinite regress/progress in every direction, is a thing = 669
[Six Six Nine = 146]
[146]
Invisible Bridge
On all fronts
The Comet Ison
Manifestation
Relationship
Realities Merge
Transparent
Sleeping Dragon
No axe to grind…
True Colors
The Mother Bandage
Enlightenment
Interoperate [the setup of ad hoc components and methods to make two or more systems work together as a combined system with some partial functionality during a certain time, possibly requiring human supervision to perform necessary adjustments and corrections]

GM: Family of origin
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1091558#p1091558

GM: Somewhere
Foundation
Internal motivation
Escape Unsupported statements that are neither useful to science or to good argument.
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1073548#p1073548

[quote]William: To the extent that these are things, they’re emergent properties of a mind.
If attitude and personality are ‘things’ - then ‘things’ are not always physical.[/quote][/quote]
GM: Music
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1089733#p1089733

Imposed Appropriates Observed
Funny
Logos – word reason plan
Digging deep
Stuff

Fearlessness neutralizes fear
“What has been established beyond reasonable doubt, is that it is illogical that something that is derived from something that isn’t, which firmly places the idea of a Creator/Creation at the center of reasonable discussion.”
Shaman
Everything is The Expression Of The Creator
Self-esteem
Intent
Sovereign Integral Perspective
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1073573#p1073573

[quote]What you appear to be saying underneath all that, is that it is truly random. That in itself is the Scotsman fallacy - so has to be taken as such - and what is being used to ‘measure’ this with?
It seems to me that the device being used for that purpose is the assumption that there is such a thing as true random, and thus, based in fallacy.[/quote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXlfjzl-CFw [Combatting Anti-Science with Richard Dawkins] [RTS=37:03]

♫The picture unfolds like silk in a loom Silhouetted by Diane are the witch and the broom If she is the bride - who is the groom?♫
“Pinch and Rub”
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1087897#p1087897

[quote]William: Atheists are not exempt from having in company, weird folk who make outlandish statements about theistic notions.

Even ex-Christian atheists give it a shot to try to educate the ignorance in their midst.

Apparently believing in something as TRUE allows one the right not to be referred to as a “liar” however, how much grace need be given if folk refuse to investigate before making sweeping belief-based statements? [regardless of which side is making them].
How much of a period should folk be allowed to have to investigate after being informed that their belief-based “truth”-statements require working on?[/quote]

GM: Like mindful nests with eggs in 'em
The Bridge of Forgiveness

[quote]Astronomers have even searched for a companion to our sun, a star dubbed Nemesis because it was supposed to have kicked an asteroid into Earth’s orbit that collided with our planet and exterminated the dinosaurs. It has never been found.

The new assertion is based on a radio survey of a giant molecular cloud filled with recently formed stars in the constellation Perseus, and a mathematical model that can explain the Perseus observations only if all sunlike stars are born with a companion.

“We are saying, yes, there probably was a Nemesis, a long time ago,” said co-author Steven Stahler, a UC Berkeley research astronomer.

“We ran a series of statistical models to see if we could account for the relative populations of young single stars and binaries of all separations in the Perseus molecular cloud, and the only model that could reproduce the data was one in which all stars form initially as wide binaries. These systems then either shrink or break apart within a million years.”[/quote]

GM: Hidden In Plain Sight

William: And found by humans doing the science…

GM: Mixture
Numbers
A: To grow Human Personalities.
Make It Real
It is not about what is written, but rather - why it is about what was written
Sclerotic [becoming rigid and unresponsive; losing the ability to adapt.]
Commitment
July Nineteen Fifty Two Washington DC

[quote]
[From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]
1952 Washington, D.C., UFO incident

From July 12 to 29, 1952, a series of unidentified flying object (UFO) sightings were reported in Washington, D.C., and later became known as the Washington flap, the Washington National Airport Sightings, or the Invasion of Washington.[1] The most publicized sightings took place on consecutive weekends, July 19–20 and July 26–27. UFO historian Curtis Peebles called the incident “the climax of the 1952 (UFO) flap” - “Never before or after did Project Blue Book and the Air Force undergo such a tidal wave of (UFO) reports.”[2][/quote]

GM: Nevertheless
The Elohim
Practical application

…to be continued…

201

Love Your Life
Sharing Data
Do It

GM: Finishing What Was Started
Integral Network
Believe
Is the mind a construct of consciousness?
What Jesus Messaged
What The Gods See
How stories are created…

William: What Jesus Messaged What The Gods See How stories are created… = 589
[589]
If you think you can handle the truth, well here it is folks
What Jesus Messaged What The Gods See How stories are created…
Have you done this yourself, and if so - what have you found?
“You expose my atheism for the agnosticism it really is.”
Old Restrained Overseeing Director of Operations on Earth

GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1084228#p1084228

GM: Text2Num.

William: How is Energy produced by Consciousness? [What is the fundamental nature of Energy?] = 834
Spirit is that which creates the sound which forms the matter into coherent order. = 834

GM: Communications Device
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD4jHDvNB80 [Bob Dylan - Death Is Not the End] [RTS=305]

Limitations or Liberations?

https://media.giphy.com/media/Q72Zdllb1YelQP2sGe/giphy-downsized-large.gif(image larger than 4096KB)

Where life and death is part of a circle and everything is part of the Ouroboros
Fierce
“Three worlds and three deep mysteries”
Blue Book Project
Shuffle List
Vocables
Falling asleep
Mysterious process Real Beauty
Zen
In The Open
The power of emotions
A: To grow Human Personalities.
We Are All Becoming One
Wait for the Navigator to respond…
Hope in the Fog
Believing in fearful imagery
Loved
The resistance is generally traceable to the theistic approach of religionizing said intelligent mind.
Commendably Recommendable
To like it or not, one must judge it
The Unknown Knowable
Everything/All
Does Armageddon have to be? The answer is in you and me
Mystical does not mean miraculous - yet both are able to be demystified.
EQ
Extra evidence is provided
Enlighten Discussion Forum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baN48zhFGzY [WINGMAKERS JAMES INTERVIEW 2013] [RTS=1:05:48]
I am an atheist in relation to anyone’s interpretation of characterizations of any gods.
Shadow Volunteer
Everything is an expression of GOD
Overwhelming I would say… With Free-spirit a Brilliant Great Answer!
It is a hard place for flesh to dwell.

Dust To Dust we cannot linger for long hereabouts…
Through the building up of the collected data to the point where it can be examined…is The Subject which is being taught, being said to be true or false…
Escape Unsupported statements that are neither useful to science or to good argument.
The entity consciousness which is Mother Earth - is “The Creator” of the forms from Her Belly
Categorising Knowledge in Terms of ‘Good’ or ‘Evil’
Dream journal
The Grey Area
Hyperbole
A: To grow Human Personalities.
Validation
Recommendable
Translate
Collective Consciousness Inner work Put the Teachings Into Practice
This Is Part Of The Job
Even that it took an actual mind operating with language, to make such a statement.
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1089192#p1089192
Crying Over Spilt Milk

[quote]William: I think that nontheists strongly defend their position on the question as to whether or not we exist within a creation - to the point that they believe we don’t and make claims about that - has something to do with the need to say “I told you so” now, because it will be too late to utter such belief-based expressions - after they are dead and gone.

I can see the attraction from a phycological perspective, but saying “I told you so” before any such thing has been established, is jumping the gun, and might even lead to embarrassment if it turns out one still exists after the fact ones brain has died.

Still, such is the power of belief-based positions. They tend toward making proclamations which imply established truth, when no such truth has been established.[/quote]

GM: Golden nugget of truth
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1079959#p1079959

William: FTL;

[quote][Replying to Diogenes in post #4]

It appears that here, you are relying upon an image of GOD which we can agree comes through the particular culture you and I came through experience of.

I see also that you have included the factor of all-powerfulness too.

Critique of this image has merit, but no merit if the critique is simply focused on GOD not existing.

Thus it could be argued that we are within and experiencing the thoughts of GOD and what we experience and call “reality” is actually GOD thinking thoughts.

Unless we are actually GOD, in which case GOD can exist.

Biblically this idea of “The Breath of GOD” equates to GOD-Consciousness giving life to the imagined forms and thus experiencing those form from those forms particular subjective places in the overall thoughts of GOD.

This concept also bleeds over into the Eastern Culture of Humanity - many of which already stipulate GOD inseparable from Creation…although it could also be said that Creation is inseparable from GOD.

An all-powerful GODs thoughts could create this Universe…

https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1079719#p1079719[/quote]

GM: In Human Form
A Bridge Over Time
For Your Greater Enjoyment
The Language of Innocence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBxTiZIzg08 [Enochian Magic and Language - Livestream Discussion] [RTS=1:32:30]
William: Being thankful and showing thanks for work done.

GM: The Realm of The Knowing of My Self Spacetime is not fundamental
One has to take care to process the thoughts of the inner critic making sure that they align with the truth.
The Source of All Creation
Gods Gift
The Blank-Slate Borderlines
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1084036#p1084036

[quote][quote]Konsciencia: For example: in my own truth, Lucifer is The Universe, but no one will accept that. So, they go with their own truth of how they see Lucifer. Also, Lucifer is more a Woman in my view! Which is awesome! I know for sure that The Illuminati has those Ancient text that explains what we were, but there’s no actual truth.

William: Truth may not be a fundamental aspect of the universe. Relative truth can be useful to the individual for the purpose of assisting the individual with understanding the fundamental nature of this reality [and alternate realities] being experienced.
With Lucifer, the connect is there also in the Sophia mythology - and Lucifer might represent to Sophia, [macro] what Jung’s Archetypes represent to us [micro].
Given the mythology surrounding Lucifer, did Lucifer attempt a coup with the purpose of deception in mind?
Such questions cannot be answered in any way which might satisfy the questioner with the truth.
The solution is to always aim for the top as it were - Sophia is the primary Universal Entity re the mythology - Lucifer appears later on. Is Lucifer working with or against Sophia? Is it even possible to work against Sophia? How do such answers to such question help us individuals?
Apparently Sophia has Parents. If so, this adds to the hierarchal structure in that ‘there is more to the story than meets the eye of one’s understanding.’

We move onwards…

Konsciencia: Yes… I forgot about The Sophia aspect of The Universe. However, I always say that The Universe is more a Woman, than a Man’s kingdom. For example: in my view, Lucifer is a Woman (most often.) In other words, God is a Woman. I do feel a peaceful, and Loving Feminine Vibe whenever I conversate with The Universe. [/quote]
[/quote]

GM: Phenomenon
New Shifts In Thinking
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1089442#p1089442

William: FTL;

[quote]Theist: Self-causation is illogical and, therefore, not possible.

Atheist: Yet you require no illogical tag when you propose an uncaused god we can’t observe as the cause of a universe we do observe.

:evil: ______________ :-k ________________ O:)

:-k : As we should already agree together, since for the present, science informs us that the universe had a beginning, we have to apply the argument “Self-causation is illogical and, therefore, not possible.” to that which has a beginning.

Gods come in all shapes and sizes and there are probably myths about gods who had beginnings and gods who’s lives could be ended.

However, there is also the myth of the GOD who had no beginning and in that, is the root-cause of all things which do have beginnings.

Therefore;

As an observer, the theist is correct in this case.
“Self-causation is illogical and, therefore, not possible” does not apply to a GOD who has always existed.

That said, nor would it apply to a universe which has always existed…once the popular beliefs that the universe had a beginning, have been shown [through science of course] to be false…[/quote]

GM: Nature two sides of the same coin
Your Dream Team
OOBE
Talking the talk
Illuminating
Skills
Message Generator System of Random Selection of Word-Strings
“From the link”
Conception
Carry
God1
An Ancient Truthful Wisdom
Hiding out in the barn
Tremulous

William: ♫Who disturbs the horses in the barn♫

GM: Far/Distant
The Human Form as a Means to an End
Jump To Conclusions
Now isn’t the time for tears
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1088936#p1088936

[quote][quote]Nak: Do you think energy counts as an object or not?

William: We don’t know, because we don’t have access to that information.

Nak: It’s just a matter of semantic, what do you personally classify energy into the category of objects?

William: Far as I can ascertain, energy is like a Ghost as in we cannot see it. Unlike a ghost, we know it exists due to its invisible quality creating an effect [QF Ripple] and causing the reality [physical universe] to appear.

Energy is obviously an object of some kind as it is able to effect the QF, and so it must have some type of physical property in order to do that.

What type of object that is though, we cannot say because we do not know.
[It may even be conscious, and able to manufacture what it wants, from the endless QT.][/quote]
There Is More To The Silence Than Meets The Ear
A: To grow Human Personalities.
Disrupt Vortex Television
Beaming Out Beaming In
Intent
Look Closely Talk George Adamski Insidious Clumsy
Mahu Nahi
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1075987#p1075987

William: How To Bruise A Ghost

GM: https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1077445#p1077445

William: FTL;

[quote][quote=AgnosticBoy post_id=1077445 time=1652385820 user_id=13726]
The way I look at it is that if consciousness equals brain or is a product of it, then scientists should be able to discover subjective experience or deduce its existence simply by studying the brain. To date, that seems inconceivable that that would happen. I brought this up to DrNoGods before, as i’m sure many others have in different ways, yet he continues to claim that consciousness poses no special challenge to science or materialism.

The facts are that the ONLY way scientists know of subjective experience (or consciousness) is because we all experience it and can report it. Scientists did not discover its existence empirically nor did they deduce its existence. Our knowledge of neural correlates would not exist unless the subject was able to tell us what they’re experiencing while observing their corresponding brain activity. SO even our neural correlates of consciousness are simply neural correlates of our subjective reports of our experience.

If anything William, we can just look at the history of science on this issue. We can find that scientists have tried to take the cheap way out by banning the study of consciousness. That’s doesn’t exactly match the pattern of success of materialist science to boldly take on challenges and to explain things and develop technology. But here we are, William and I (two humble agnostics), still not taken seriously because we dare to consider that consciousness might be something that’s less than physical.
[/quote]

[/quote]

GM: The Message Generating Process allows for said Mind to speak for itself, and show itself to exist. As such, this is adequate evidence - the sort of evidence a sceptic calls for in relation to the subject of Intelligent Design.
What is represented in the whole is the evolution of God within the structure of the physical Universe.
Inner child
The Riders
The Astral Body
Accept
I have no reason not to trust that the thought was backed with good intentions.
Self-mastery
Taxonomic [concerned with the classification of things, especially organisms.]
One should not take the evidence as incontrovertible for granted, as we should always apply science to any evidence and test it for repeatability.
“Never let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game”
Apotheosis [the highest point in the development of something; a culmination or climax. the elevation of someone to divine status.]
Dohrman Prophecy Book Introduction
Shift Focus
The Matrix
Obstacle