Is The World Order About To Collapse?

Perhaps the X leader comes in to break the corrupt system down? Or shepherd the population through the corrupt system in unconventional ways kind of like the Gray Champion in Generation Theory? I tried working within politics, nonprofits, and academia for several years and was left severely disillusioned. I soon identified with “Counter” leaders, artists, and ideas. During periods of personal struggle, I may have gone too far into deconstruction or apathy but seem to make it back to moderation and transcendence eventually - by grace I guess. I always keep that anarchic tendency within me though and can’t help but empathize with the X leader and their followers at the very least.

Well, the X leader does break systems down. That is what they do. But I’d say there are a few things to look at here.

  • Can any system be non-corrupt? If not, what is the acceptable level of corruption? I personally believe humanity is nowhere near a level where it can create a non-corrupt system. Perhaps small groups, but nothing larger than a small congregation. Even then, there is always a high risk that one person will start to take advantage of a culture of trust.
  • Do the various leaders X offer a less corrupt system that the one being torn down? In 2022, my opinion is they offer to replace a corrupt system with a more corrupt system. In any revolution there is always the high risk of counterrevolution. Marx was the leader X whose movement was taken over by Lenin. Monarchy was corrupt but Socialism enabled multiple degrees more of corruption. Monarchy was inhumane but Socialism was hellish. The legacy of leader X in that case enabled a long line of psychopaths to take power from Stalin to Putin, with only a few drunkards like Yelstin every once in a while who were not so bad.

This is probably the key point. When I talk to people in this newly emerging X counter movement (anti-vac, antigovernment, anti-progressive, all I can hear them saying is they are dissatisfied with something - but I never hear a good solution for an alternative. They aren’t building anything to replace what they want to tear down.

Actually, maybe instead of X, we should call it Z. That would be a more fitting analogy. The Russian invasion of Ukraine and the symbol Z is the ending. Tear everything down until everyone allows us to be on top. I think we can see in Russia the consequences of allowing the least competent among us to tear our current system down.

This is common. Idealists are destined to experience disillusionment. They have an opinion and think that only their opinion is the correct one. Ironically when they start losing battles, they become morally agnostic and begin to think the end justifies the means. I never trust idealists because I know they can easily do a 180 and do something completely amoral for their cause.
But who even said they are right, lol? They just think they are. Conservatives think they are right and liberals think they are and of course neither should get their way just because they think they are right.

The “way out” as I see it is to trust that the struggle is what is necessary - that humanity should struggle one against another to negotiate or fight out the best way. The correct path should be a difficult one. If it’s an easy path, something has gone terribly wrong and it means some kind of single-minded fanaticism has taken hold of the group. The way out is to celebrate Democracy as a ongoing and continuous peaceful struggle where you do not always get what you want.

I think we’re seeing something like this happening right now all around the world.

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Totally agree. But in some pockets more than others. Case in point:

Again, I believe social media is directly responsible for all of this. This kind of extremism could never have reached its inflection point back in the Orange media age, as opposed to this 100% postmodern media age we now find ourselves in with its emphasis on radical decentralization and red-stage standards of “freedom” (i.e. “I want freedom of speech AND freedom from consequences”, “no one tells me what to do”, etc.) And it’s hard to know where to go from here, because most of what passes for “centrism” in this culture is fully drenched in the paradox of tolerance.

Rhodes, who wears an eye patch after accidentally shooting himself in the face with his own gun, is one of the most prominent defendants of the roughly 900 charged so far in connection with the attack.

A prime example of a Type X / Z leader.
Who follows an ex soldier who shot himself in the face? That’s just basic muzzle awareness - it’s the soldier version of not tying your shoelaces together.

Putin seems to be the most competent. Problem is he doesn’t offer a viable alternative. My point is that no one has a viable alternative option.
We in the USA over the past 3 elections (2018, 2020, 2022) were able to slow down the Z movement from taking over the USA completely. We now have the luxury of observing Russia and China and we can watch the results of life two varieties of Z and the quality of life it will bring to the participants. In Russia we have a Z Dictator who is determined to tear down the New World Order through violent despotism and war, while in China we can observe the leaderless form of Z as the New World Order breaks down in China.
This is the big danger with Z - tear down the existing power structures and offer only what I expect will turn out to be horrific alternatives.

On Vaccine passports - I lived in the EU 10 years and was required by law to always carry my “Green Book”. Passports have had computer chips since 9-11. I have never had any kind of delusion in this century when travelling abroad that I was “free”. When I was young, yes. But not since the 1990’s.
The only way to be “free” is if you decide not to use their infrastructure. Build your own dugout canoe, and you are free to move without their requirements. As soon as you use their jets and their privately owned transport, they will want to track you. Not since 9-11 has anyone been able to just jump on a plane without the plane owner knowing your identity.
Which is why I personally have made life choices to retire in a place where I can live to the greatest degree possible without using “their stuff”. I’ve understood for a very long time that if I use THEIR stuff then they can make demands on me that I don’t feel comfortable with.
One example of this is my local Wallmart at some point started recording video of everyone who uses the self checkout. My choice is to either give Wallmart my biographic data, which they can then exchange with anyone they want like Facebook - or I can choose not to shop at Wallmart. But I don’t see the sense in burning Wallmart down to the ground.

A while back, about 10 years ago I was thinking about creating a website with certain religious views and borderline illegal content (psychedelic). I never did it and my interests moved on since then.

I researched hosting companies and noted that the hosting company I had my domain parked at was Mormon and there were documented cases where they removed websites that disagreed with their religious views. I though “OK, fair enough - I’ll use a more agnostic service”.

This goes back to the issue of: “Is a business required to provide services that are against their moral conscience.” There seems to be a double standard here, where the same people who want to supress LGBT expression at the same time feel it is unfair for other businesses like Twitter or Facebook to silence their view. Or vice versa.

It’s not possible to have an orderly society with either of these extremes making laws for the country. Either we say businesses have the right to refuse service to customers, or they don’t. If there are protected classes like race or gender, that also has to be consistent and not flip flop according to political ideology.

That is before we even get into actual crimes - where actual crimes are expected to be tolerated and ignored when done by one’s own political political group. Even the most basic society cannot exist if large parts of society support actual criminal activity of their group.

Your points mostly reflect personal and private entities that have no power other than deny you access to their goodies or services. The UN the WHO and WEF are not an authoritative body we exercise any control in managing.

Giving up our rights to a World Government that is seeking full authority to demand compliance at the point of gun or a compliant experimental injection is quite concerning. The US Government power is massive and is threatening to many people already.

A facist World Government is an even more terrifying fear. Especially to those populations that have suffered at the hands of dictators like Stalin, Mao and Hitler. I like this better than the political who-hates-who conversations we are having here at home in America.

While at our age as Boomer’s we need not be too concerned … the Zoomer’s, Millennial’s, GenXer’s have a lot of genuine concerns, as they should have.

It’s such a tricky issue, especially since we live in a time when our trust in our economic and governing institutions is at an all time low. And yet, we are now faced with a series of global life conditions that can only be addressed from a global scale — things like pandemics and climate change and migrations that result from climate change, worldwide economic inequality, transnational corporations without a transnational regulator, etc. And all of this really does require a new scale of global agreement, cooperation, and self-organization. Which is exactly how our governing social holons emerged in the first place — townships created problems that could only be solved at the provincial level, provinces created problems that could only be solved at the national level, nations created problems that can now only be solved at the global level. So integral would predict the emergence of a new global social holon at some point.

But the challenge, of course, is how do we get from here to there, when the people who are sitting sitting at that particular table are the same people who created so much of the national and transnational mess to begin with? How can we allow a new kind of power to emerge, that isn’t simply an expansion of current plutocratic control?

My greater concern is that these transnational entities are actively hollowing out our national institutions through excessive lobbying and regulatory capture, and being sold to the public as phony “governments are only ever bad” populism. When, in fact, a functioning government is supposed to act as a shield between the people and the plutocrats (including Musk, Bezos, and Zuck) who are actively trying to dismantle these layers of protection.

This how we get to the point where half of our country looks to billionaires to be “populist leaders”. Again, it’s a total Ayn Rand nightmare.

Which is what make it a dangerous time for this new global social holon to emerge, because these are the people who wield an inordinate amount of influence, and want to create a global system in their own self-image.

Make no mistake, one of the most pressing challenges on this planet right now is that we have a cabal of transnational corporations and no mechanisms of transnational regulation, which is preventing all these other pressing global challenges from being solved or even acknowledged.

Several months or even years ago I made the claim that we were headed for catastrophe due to fundamental flaws built into the flavor of Capitalism we have chosen. I can’t remember exactly who cast shade on me then for being too negative or whatever. I can’t remember if it was just fermented or how many others joined in.

The point I had then and seems to be coming true now is that the problem is so deep at fundamental levels that no - even Integralists don’t want to face it. Without facing it the actual roots of the problem, obviously no solution can will be found.

It goes deeper than politics and deeper than plutocrats down to a very essential human evolutionary step that humanity will either take or become extinct. If humanity as a whole does not wake up from being a bunch of stupid monkeys with an endless desire to eat and sex everything they see, then humanity is doomed.

What we are seeing now in Russia and China were completely predictable, and their repercussions on Europe and then the USA are also completely predictable. But nobody wanted or even now wants to look at these causes and instead are shocked when these things very easily predictable things happen.

Environmentalists have been screaming about water for decades - and now China has an eminent water shortage. Communists have known since Marx that Capitalism is destined to crash. Only blind faith has kept it going this long. And so on and so forth.

Perhaps utilizing AI to organize around higher principles that allow individuals to weigh in without political identity and agendas but with purpose and good faith.

For example allowing Doctors to weigh in on mass through an organized data driven platform that presents information on medical procedures to doctors who then vote in a vacuum solely on what they interpret from their own professional experience.

The data could then be tabulated and organized based on group thinking without group ideology or peer pressure. When Doctors cannot agree on the science of medicine it’s a big problem. I think most of us would agree the concerns around “emergency use authorization” of Covid shots has become much more a political issue than a valid honest medical one, especially now with the mounting evidence of negative side-effects.

I most certainly agree! We need to be facing these questions together in an open non-competitive cooperative way. Rather than battling for or against different approaches that we align with politically, could we organize around higher principles of measurable productive results?

Use AI to remove the imperfect human tribal alliances to organize things at a higher level. For example leveraging genuine security in our voting systems like we use for online banking. That one thing alone could fix our election system to actually remove the crazy conspiracy theories and actually give us back legitimate unchallenged election results in real time.

Together we could think of collaborate productive ways to optimize AI for desired outcomes throughout society. This will require a transformational change in our attitudes. Dare I say we focus on the spiritual values we share as fellow earth siblings, leveraging agape’ love as the missing ingredient to such a positive transformation?

Is this a sign of the collapse of the World Order or is it the NWO working as designed?

Great article and question Ray … this is an example of raw competitive capitalism; does this need Government oversight to protect consumers? Are these Government agencies and officials in a working relationship with big businesses … more money honey?

The Rumble video below exposes Pfizer using government data from Israel when it sought approval from the FDA. Researchers concluded there were causative negative side effects, yet to this day Governmental agencies continue to hide information about it and shut down voices of Medical Professionals who contradict them.

Start watching at the 1:41 minute mark … are the Government agencies playing an oversight protective role or is this evidence of a powerful Facist Partnership evolving by globalist power players?

Rather than being distracted by the propaganda of petty politics they push out to distract us … I think we should be a voice exposing legitimate points of truthful concerns where ever we find it.

Please share your take-away on this information.

Now to put another twist - without discussing the individual, but the message:
Another line I remember from the great Dune series:
“Constitutions become the ultimate tyranny," Paul [Muad’Dib] said. "They’re organized power on such a scale as to be overwhelming. The constitution is social power mobilized and it has no conscience. It can crush the highest and the lowest, removing all dignity and individuality. It has an unstable balance point and no limitations.”

The question being: Do constitutions support the NWO, and thus should be abolished - or are constitutions our protection against the NWO?

I’m not thinking that any constitution will be abolished anytime soon - but these things, once said and not repudiated, have a way of coming back again and again. Without any kind of cognitive integrity or moral consistency it’s impossible to say when this idea will resurface again, or with how much force. That is the penultimate problem with Z leaders and the Z movement - you have no idea what will come next and even less of an idea whether any whacky, wild Z movement ideology will harm or help you.

Abolish the constitution? why not? A large portion of humanity apparently craves tyranny, and as Frank Herbert mused over 50 years ago - what kind of society will it bring about (hint, the Dune Universe isn’t a happy one).

I am not sure what you’re referencing? Or how it applies?

Referencing: “Is the world order about to collapse?”

Is the US Constitution worth defending, or should it be “terminated”? When a major leader of 70 million + Voting Americans calls to terminate parts of the constitution because it is inconvenient - and few people seem at all concerned about it - is it even worth the parchment it’s written on?
Is the constitution something that favors the NWO, or stands in the way of NWO?
Does the fact that so few people stand up for the constitution when it’s inconvenient for them mean the NWO will collapse sooner, or get stronger?

The digital vaccine passport being signed by the President …this does not violate the Constitution does it? The next President can unsign it, right?

I am sure many people here in the USA would be happy to see the Constitution and America fall. Our world competitors, in pursuit of power, would love to see it crash and burn, to return their “glory days” … is it time to symbolically burn the US Constitution and give power back to the tyranny of aristocracy? I say no!

As an arrogant American I would say the US Constitution being transparent open and free helps the world too. If we cave to world pressures to relinquish power to these world governments, with evil histories, would that be a step in the right direction? I think not.

Does our internal bickering and emotional psychosis here at home threaten the world? It worries me.

Would most people in the world prefer to live under the Constitution of the United States? I hope so.

Yes, Executive orders can be reversed by the next executive - yes. Or the courts can overturn or hinder an executive’s decision. Or the Legislature can pass a law to limit the Executive if more than 2/3 of the Legislative. All this is within the parameters of the constitution.

I agree - or at least some form of it. Perhaps modified here and there to fit their specific needs. I’m on the fence if the Parliamentary or the Presidential system is better, but most successful modern democracies have Constitutions.

Back to passports - Passports have always been a funny thing. We don’t necessarily have a “right” to get a passport. For example, a law was put into effect in 2017 where if you owe more than 50,000 in taxes, the Federal Government can suspend your passport. Freedom to travel outside the US is not protected by the constitution. So if there was never really a fight to make having an international passport a right and not a privilege - adding on the vaccine mandate to the tax debt requirement wasn’t such a stretch. I think that’s one problem we constantly face - our rights are taken away without a whisper of complaint for a “good cause”, and then suddenly when it turns to a cause we don’t support we suddenly think something is wrong. It is, but we as a population allowed it to get that far in the first place.

More immediate than the world, it is used against our own citizens time and time again in dozens of examples I can think of. People jump on the bandwagon of their political ideology and eagerly vote away an opposing group’s rights - then get angry when that establishes a precedent for their own rights to be violated later.

Unfortunately, it’s often difficult for people to see when our own “faction” - be is social, political, religious ethnic or whatever - is taking that first dangerous step. I think one key component to an Integral society would be acceptance of individuals challenging the conventional wisdom of their own “tribe”.

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Not to derail the conversation or get caught up in petty semantics but Dune is fiction. I believe I’ve seen you reference it before and to use it at the end of a submission comes across as using it as a reference of history. As if you’re saying if you don’t believe me, just look at what eventually happened in Dune. But it’s not real. I don’t even like constant references to Nazi Germany or USSR, which are real data points. Lessons can be learned and the present always has a flavor of things from the past but future always looks significantly different from our best predictions.

For instance, I study Generation Theory and think a 4th Turning Crisis Climax is due in the next couple years using the approximate 80 year cycles they’ve occured in throughout the past 500 years or so. I believe it is going to occur mathematically but have no idea what it is going to look like qualitatively. Tyrannical government? Civil War? Nuclear exchange? Technocracy? I’ll deal with it when it actually happens. There’s too many variables to act too specifically yet.