That’s an absurd conclusion to make.
No, that is not what I am saying.
Frank Herbert made a fictional character that was a super being. He was the richest, smartest, most powerful being in the Universe and ordained by God himself. If Frank Herbert were to re-write the character today he might even add that the character had the largest hands, wrote the most perfect letters and made the most perfect phone calls. Note I use the past tense because that is how we refer to events in fiction in the English language. It’s also worthy to note that this character was not a “good guy” he is the protagonist in the story but is responsible for terrible atrocities and the deaths of billions of people. Frank Herbert then thought “how would this person feel about constitutions?” Well, of course he would dislike them because they would limit his power. Now rewind or fast forward to today and we have another person who is delusional that he is all these grandiose things and what is his opinion of constitutions? Of course he is against them as soon as they limit his power.
And this isn’t a derailing of the conversation - but right in line with the “New World Order” and will it collapse. Well, that depends on what the New World Order is. If it is Green, then yeah, sure I can see it could very well easily collapse. But if we think it is the Orange foundations upon which Green has built - no. So “Z” leaders will continue to grow in power and get more followers - so long as they remain focused on the culture and race wars and remain “counter-counter-culture”. As long as they just attack “hippies” and “snowflakes” they will increase in power. But we see in the matter of cancelling constitutions and cancelling elections and cancelling basic laws which enabled hippies and snowflakes to exist - no, society will not follow that far. Americans still want courts to treat everyone equally and want everyone from policeman to President to obey the same laws as you and I. The more these Z leaders try to attack our Orange societal foundations, the stronger the reaction will be against them. Move on to Putin, another Z leader who ironically became popular with American Conservatives and even an American President. But the minute he invaded Ukraine he was threatening the very security of every Nation-State and I predict that any American political candidate who attaches himself to Putin now will suffer at the ballot box.
Moving on the the 4th turning.
Here’s the thing about math - if you change one variable the outcome is completely different. Past performance does not predict future success. So regardless of how long a pattern has existed - it is against both mathematical and scientific principles to say that will predict future events. We would need to know ALL the variables, not just some of them.
According to all the 4th turning literature I’ve read, supposedly we entered the crisis phase two decades ago, in 2005. That is following the “mathematical” model. Well, that’s cute to think about the years 2005-2025 being the crisis phase and in just a few years it will be all rainbows and unicorns dancing in waterfalls. Even just a year ago many people in this exact forum thought I was too negative or pessimistic when I said, “Nah, the crisis phase is just starting with COVID”. So a year later looking back Russia started WW III and Republicans didn’t get their “Red Wave” - so now suddenly Republicans are getting on board with the whole concept of a delayed 4th crisis phase and the topic of this discussion about will the NWO collapse.
My own theory that I’ve pointed out to @corey-devos before is that one key variable that is different is generational lifespan. The Baby Boomers maintained their health for 20 years longer than The Great Generation and are only now starting to give up power - very reluctantly, lol. So while for the past 500 years leaders retired in their 50’s and died in their 60’s, Boomers are often not retiring until their 70’s and dying in their 80’s. For example, Both Trump and Biden are in their 70’s, keeping the leadership of the country in the Boomer mindset 20 years longer. If not for Trump, a younger Republican like Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz would have given us a Gen X Republican President.
So now as this self-centered, egotistical Boomer “Me” generation is finally about to die, of course they don’t care what happens to the world after they leave it or after they are no longer able to hold onto power - unless they have some kind of inner moral compass or morality. So the unwinding is turning to crisis 20 years later than the model, and the next one will be delayed again by as long as the self-centered generation clings to power.
Unfortunately this also means that the unwinding period was 40 years instead of 20, and the crisis I predict will be exponentially worse than the last 4th Turning that saw WW I, WW II and the Great Depression. This is because not only is the US 4th turning delayed by a longer lived generation, but it is also getting into sync with the Global 4th turning of Europe, Russia and Asia. As a result we will see a deep Global Crisis ahead rather than just a National one.
Or, it’s also possible the 4th Turning is bunk, lol.
But also, there is another aspect of this - at the same time that we are experiencing a crisis, I see Awakening also accelerating concurrently. So the model might just be irrelevant to the future and need to be completely re-worked. Since around 2015 there has been an explosion of interest in psychedelics, for example. Another example is Kaballah becoming open to the global community as well as authentic Yoga and many other spiritual traditions that were formerly behind some kind of gatekeeper system and are now easily available online for a minimal investment of money and effort. So while we are just entering the crisis period with COVID, the awakening phase with at least a portion of the population is overlapping by 10 years. This complicates the model. We have some micro societies that have moved past the minor crisis phase quickly and into Awakening, while the other 99% are headed into deeper crisis. Will the 1% be able to maintain their progress, or will the 99% obliterate the 1%? Your guess is as good as mine.