Sidra. I read that newcomer’s post, thinking this is not making sense, Sidras cracked 
Then I read your deleted post and it pointed to that exact issue. What a crack up. Unwieldy indeed 
Yeah, even Ken Wilber threw in the towel pretty early, citing how things tend to “go south,” in open forums such as these. Still, a good reality check, though, and for better or for worse, reinforces my contention that an element of entropy is always lurking anytime two or more people start looking at stuff together…
Let’s see what happens here.
I had joined this site briefly almost 10 years ago, but left very soon after because of the unwieldy nature of the posts I was seeing! I remember being quite disappointed
Responding to your post on the Names for God thread, I think I probably see meditation in a similar way. More like a process of calibrating yourself to “Integral consciousness”. Like an athlete goes to the gym to train, but the actual competitive performance is point. Making temporary states a permanent trait.
That Red level is always there! I’m certainly guilty of falling back into those concerns when avoiding the responsibility of Integral living. The fruits of Integral living have this paradoxical, and delayed gratification quality which for me makes giving up on the more immediate, concrete habits harder. So I totally agree, Power as God is there at every level. I guess my original question would be about the names for God at a person’s main/default/day-to-day operating level.
I feel quite solid about these terms: Red as Power, Blue as God, Orange as The Natural World
But I can’t zone in on a term for the Green, post-modern level, which isn’t too surprising. Maybe Green as Subjectivity.
“But I can’t zone in on a term for the Green, post-modern level, which isn’t too surprising. Maybe Green as Subjectivity.”
So, at Green, God = Subjectivity. That seems right to me, and your professed inability to “zone in on a term” seems appropriate, paralleling the secular realm of politics as the lack of focus on the Left. How to cobble together a unified coalition with a platform of “collective subjectivity?”
So your original question: Your spending time with the green-subjectivity-as-God issue has been helpful for me, personally helping bring into focus the political Lefts’ lack of focus. I’ve heard Wilber talk about this stuff as it relates to a conservative re-set that is looking to happen now … messy as it is…
So, thanks again, Phil!