@raybennett The Integral Community spends a LOT of time looking at politics, religion, belief systems, race, and a whole host of real world concerns, issues, beliefs,… If we want to map real lives in the real world (physiosphere? ) with real world happenings (elections -> policies that govern us, attending this or that church, etc) then we have to somehow get some sort of cross correlation or Venn diagram intersections (or not) with said Real World and an Integral Noosphere. But if we are happy for Integral Theory to remain nothing more than an academic Noosphere exercise, then no we don’t have to use any other terms from bygone eras like progressive, liberal, leftist, alt-right, right wing, conservative, Christian, Buddhist, Democrat, Republican, atheist, Marxist, Communist, Socialist, Capitalists, Anarchist and on and on…
I do find it non-constructive how often you continually conflate “Trump supporter” with anything right of your political beliefs. Just as with many that voted for President Biden, was he their first choice? Perhaps not. No one would feel heard, accepted, aka “included” if someone were to continually dog-whistle that they supported a dementia suffering lifelong lying racist average at best intelligence groping swamp creature for President. If someone voted for Biden they would see that statement as offensive and feel distanced. That’s why we wouldn’t want to alienate you for, well, voting for a dementia suffering lifelong lying racist average at best intelligence groping swamp create for President, because you’re an obedient minion of the Leftist propaganda machine.
Now do you think you know what those right of you talk about when you’re not in the room? You’ll likely never know since, well, you’re all about “exploring extreme boundaries” to test if they are Pre, Trans or Post whatever trait you’re “helping them explore”.
What do I believe?
I’m a work in progress practicing Christian - i.e. I go to church, pray, read the Bible, volunteer, donate, and have fun with it with a bunch of other people that have fun with it . Do I think Christianity and specifically my brand is the “best gig around”? Of course I do or I would change branches or religions or become an anti-theist or identify as a turtle if it worked better for me. It’s no different than me wearing Saucony’s instead of New Balance because they are a better fit, for me. And do I care if you wear Adidas? All I care is that they work for you. Now will I eventually get tired of someone telling me that Saucony’s are outdated when it’s none of their business what I wear, and sadly haven’t even tried on a pair of Saucony’s since they were dumbed by their teenage sweet heart.
So yes, there are “people just like me” that run barefoot or wear wooden clogs or don’t go to the doctor. But guess what? They’re extreme examples of that have little relevancy and even less influence in the real world. Now if we wanted to explore a Post Running Shoe Noosphere with a Existential Race to the Death, then we might want to foist those clog wearing luddites onto a pedestal and chant destruction to all Cloggers. Even if you have something against Cloggers, I would recommend trying to approach them with love and compassion instead of blaming them for everyone “not getting it” by wearing Adida.